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Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 12:49

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

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Mangogirl12 · 11/04/2023 02:40

rumpsteak · 10/04/2023 15:28

The Catholic church is a shitshow but it still doesn't teach that the Pope is the best Catholic which is what you said. The hierachy are an abusive set of wankers for sure.

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They teach that the Pope is Infallible. So, yes, they do.

monsteramunch · 10/04/2023 23:40

AxolotlOnions · 10/04/2023 23:15

To everyone saying it's clearly sexual, is tongue sucking now a thing?

Is this serious?

If a man asked your child to suck his tongue, would you not instinctively assume his motivation was sexual and therefore feel absolutely disgusted?

ananass · 10/04/2023 23:37

AxolotlOnions · 10/04/2023 23:15

To everyone saying it's clearly sexual, is tongue sucking now a thing?

Pretty sure it’s been a thing for millennia.

TrombonesAreNotBones · 10/04/2023 23:21

AxolotlOnions · 10/04/2023 23:15

To everyone saying it's clearly sexual, is tongue sucking now a thing?

What we are saying is no man should ever be asking a child to suck a body part. Sorry if you find this a weird thing to be concerned about. HTH.

AxolotlOnions · 10/04/2023 23:15

To everyone saying it's clearly sexual, is tongue sucking now a thing?

neveradullmoment99 · 10/04/2023 23:07

Also, I am agreeing with you! It's disgusting! Or did you not read that bit??
Honestly, mumsnet people ready to bite your head off!

neveradullmoment99 · 10/04/2023 23:05

Shhhquirrel · 10/04/2023 16:09

’It was meant to be a joke.’

And you are privy to the intentions of the DL how exactly.

No adult in their right mind would think it appropriate to suggest this to a child. Stop with the dangerous culture of apology.

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Not me. It was said in some news report. Of course I'm not privy to the Dalai lama. I'm only reiterating what the press said he said so what's your point?

TeaForMeandThee · 10/04/2023 22:50

Zone2NorthLondon · 10/04/2023 20:53

This thread attests why abuse by revered & popular people is denied,minimised,tolerated
The amount of obfuscation and denial, the rush to seek a cultural explanation…anything other than call this what it is - abuse

I agree 100%. It explains how people with power/fame can get away with this sort of thing in plain sight and people will happily defend them, even when there is video footage of the incident. Crazy.

Mammajay · 10/04/2023 22:06

Religion often seems to breed perversion or perhaps it is the power people have over others I am agnostic. It seems a vile thing to do the a child.

AnorLondo · 10/04/2023 22:00

GingerbreadBaking · 10/04/2023 20:38

Ah this is their religion the Diversity, inclusion, equality, be kind, intersectionality.

https://www.newarkadvertiser.co.uk/news/investigation-launched-into-guide-commissioners-social-medi-9227238/

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Nope, you can through out whatever buzzwords you want but I'm still not seeing the connection to religion or how it makes Brownies one. Sorry, I know you're desperate to derail the thread.

WhateverYouSayEh · 10/04/2023 21:58

FictionalCharacter · 10/04/2023 20:41

@WhateverYouSayEh I totally agree and I’m sorry that happened to you. I went through horrible shit as a child too including rape. I’ll never forgive them, including my parents who made me kiss old people who were strangers to me and sit on their laps, which I hated. At least I’ve been able to bring up my own kids to be able to say no and to not be people pleasers.

I'm sorry it happened to you too. Flowers

CordyLines · 10/04/2023 21:54

onirgellep · 10/04/2023 21:50

The story has disappeared from the front page of the Guardian website already

Even tho' it's the 4th 'most viewed' article on the website

Not one bit surprised. I said earlier that it might be old news in a very short while.

I just hope that devotees of his religion question his actions, but will they? Because if they don't it doesn't look like anyone else will. That's the power he has I reckon.

onirgellep · 10/04/2023 21:50

The story has disappeared from the front page of the Guardian website already

Even tho' it's the 4th 'most viewed' article on the website

L3ThirtySeven · 10/04/2023 21:24

“My understanding is that the DL claims to be the reincarnation of a Prince.”

Just in broad terms. The Dalai Lama is one of several Lamas who are bodhisattvas or disciples of Buddha that have attained enlightenment but instead of being freed from the wheel of being have chosen to return to Earth to guide other humans towards enlightenment. So a lama is reborn into reincarnation after reincarnation, and will keep doing so until all humans reach enlightenment.

The lamas do not self-identify or claim they are a lama- they are told from toddler hood that they ARE the lama. The old Lama when near to death gives signs to the senior priests that are then followed to find where the Lama will be reborn. Usually it’s visions or utterances similar to how an oracle would say something. These priests then go on a quest following the signs until they find likely candidates. They then do tests on the toddler to determine if the toddler is the reincarnation of the Lama. (Not all lamas are men by the way). If the priests decide a toddler is the reincarnation of the lama, they are taken away from their family to be raised in celibacy to be the next Lama. The family was often compensated with land, high social status. Though not anymore as Tibet is occupied by China.

DrManhattan · 10/04/2023 21:20

Very sad. I thought he was a good guy. Wtf is he up to in private.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 21:18

I live in an extremely middle class white neighbourhood full of DL devotees and you should see the comments on our Whatsapp chat. They are in turmoil. It is deathly silent out there so it has really affected a lot of people. Lets hope they do the right thing by disempowering him immediately and making him a DINO (DL in name only).

CordyLines · 10/04/2023 21:17

At 87 there isn't a line on his face either, Botox or surgery, or has he a naturally youthful skin? He looks like a mad man to me anyway, especially in that pic above in the yellow robes.

L3ThirtySeven · 10/04/2023 21:15

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 21:13

It is a very slippery slope if he is still held up as an example to others because they will also do as he does.

Agreed. This can’t be ignored or brushed off.

Gigantasaurus · 10/04/2023 21:15

beatrice14 · 10/04/2023 20:32

Is it really true that dementia or enforced celibacy could turn someone into a paedophile? If true that's horrible..

There are lots of studies into both and the conclusion appears to be yes, sadly it is true

JerseyRoyals · 10/04/2023 21:13

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 21:11

The cult leader I was made to bow down to also said that he was a divine descendant and the title passes through the generations. It is still a man made idea imposed upon others and impossible to disprove.

This.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 21:13

It is a very slippery slope if he is still held up as an example to others because they will also do as he does.

L3ThirtySeven · 10/04/2023 21:13

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 21:08

A natural response would be feeling ashamed and immediate resignation. if the dementia was a factor, this would be alluded to. instead, he is trying to hatch a plan to justify his continuation. that tells me everything I need to know.

He does feel ashamed as he apologised. And he can’t resign, it’s not that kind of position. Dementia would only be alluded to if it had been recognised and diagnosed, and only then if the Dalai Lama has given permission for his medical information to be made public.

It’s a position for life, he doesn’t need to justify continuing as the Dalai Lama. He is it until the day he dies. There is no need for a plan to be hatched.

What needs to be done is to quietly move up his retirement date and sequester him from public life. A sort of end of life meditation retreat.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 21:11

The cult leader I was made to bow down to also said that he was a divine descendant and the title passes through the generations. It is still a man made idea imposed upon others and impossible to disprove.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 21:09

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GingerbreadBaking · 10/04/2023 21:09

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/31/tibet-and-china-clash-over-next-reincarnation-of-the-dalai-lama

They are separate religions.

Catholics believe that a priest stands in for Jesus, he has consecrated hands, he is still an imperfect human. A Pope is elected by Cardinals. Some Popes retired earlier in the Church history, it's unusual.

It's totally different to a man who says he is a reincarnation, they can't replace him until he dies.

Tibet and China clash over next reincarnation of the Dalai Lama

The spiritual leader has mused that he may return as a woman. But his succession has turned into a political battle

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/31/tibet-and-china-clash-over-next-reincarnation-of-the-dalai-lama