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Is my husband right to be embarrassed when I serve soup for lunch to guests

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MusicLass · 09/04/2023 06:44

This is a bit of a long-running joke in our house, but underpinned by genuine feelings…

i like making soups from scratch (E.g vegetable, lentil, minestrone) and try to make them tasty, nutritious and filling. For some visitors I make soups for lunch or dinner, for the same reasons above, plus I can make them in advance and just reheat giving me more time to be attentive to guests. I also either bake or buy nice bread and butter to go with the soup. Something for pudding would be offered too.

DH gets embarrassed when I serve soup to guests, saying it’s not proper food and it’s not being hospitable. He would expect a pasta or rice dish round someone’s house, or meat.

He happily eats soup when it’s just us as a family.

AIBU to serve soup to guests? Or is he right? Generally he is more sensitive about social etiquette than me. He’s also from a Mediterranean culture, which could be a factor here.

Thanks for reading and helping us to settle this!

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AllIeveknewonlyou · 09/04/2023 21:44

UndertheCedartree · 09/04/2023 21:42

I love homemade soup and would be delighted if I was given that for lunch or dinner. I also serve soup at lunch or dinner, although when I have guests I usually serve it with a cheeseboard to go with the bread.

Yep it's pretty good isn't it

UndertheCedartree · 09/04/2023 21:42

I love homemade soup and would be delighted if I was given that for lunch or dinner. I also serve soup at lunch or dinner, although when I have guests I usually serve it with a cheeseboard to go with the bread.

Ktime · 09/04/2023 21:39

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 21:31

You’d have to ask them. Anyway, we don’t know that he does.

That’s my whole point. No one knows because OP never came back.

AllIeveknewonlyou · 09/04/2023 21:38

I would be happy with a filling soup (i.e. not consumme but with lentils, pulses, potatoes, pasta or whatever) bread butter perhaps a bit of cheese.

Sounds great.

adultdds · 09/04/2023 21:33

Love soup I'd be happy with it any meal. But most see it as a lunch.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 21:31

Ktime · 09/04/2023 21:18

Why would deliberately let one half of the partnership do all the cooking?

You’d have to ask them. Anyway, we don’t know that he does.

RampantIvy · 09/04/2023 21:18

Surprised at the number of soup haters on here, and the number of posters who have never eaten a filling substantial soup, but only eaten thin watery "meal starter" soup.

Soup is absolutely fine for a casual lunch. I personally don't know anyone who would turn their nose up at soup.

Ktime · 09/04/2023 21:18

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 20:55

Until we find out why DH doesn’t cook himself, how can we know if it’s a partnership?

Isn’t every relationship supposed to be a partnership? Why would you deliberately keep making food one half of the partnership didn’t want you to make?

Why would deliberately let one half of the partnership do all the cooking?

UWhatNow · 09/04/2023 21:13

Ugh soup. Just no. Soup and a sandwich for lunch at the very least. But soup is a starter not a whole meal. YABU.

mondaytosunday · 09/04/2023 21:09

I wouldn't serve just soup unless it's a casual lunch. Certainly not for dinner.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 21:06

Fairislefandango · 09/04/2023 20:47

I mean, yes, I absolutely would check if my guests actually liked what I was planning on serving them! Is that not just polite / considerate?

No, it's odd imo. I'd just invite people for lunch. I wouldn't ask them what they like and don't like in advance as though they were fussy toddlers. I'd expect them to let me know if they had any allergies or intolerances. And I certainly wouldn't expto be consulted about the menu if I were invited to someone else's house for a meal.

You wouldn’t just ask ā€œIs there anything you particularly don’t like?ā€?

RampantIvy · 09/04/2023 21:03

No, it's odd imo. I'd just invite people for lunch. I wouldn't ask them what they like and don't like in advance as though they were fussy toddlers

No, of course it isn't odd not to ask about what people like to eat. It is good hosting.

When we invite people round I always ask if there is anything I should avoid. Having vegetarian, vegan and nut allergic people in the family and a couple of coeliac friends does make me more careful and considerate about cooking for other people.

Why wouldn't you?

Goldenbear · 09/04/2023 21:01

I think it is fine for lunch or dinner - even without fresh bread. Are you supposed to check what your guests want, I didn't realise that.

WombatChocolate · 09/04/2023 21:00

If. Guests were coming to stay for a couple of days and I was feeding them multiple meals, one lunch would probably be soup and bread.

If friends came over for just lunch at the weekend, I’d probably cook the main meal of the day.

If a local friend who I see regularly popped round for a weekday lunch, I might do soup, if we regularly eat together.

If anyone gave it to me, I would be a bit surprised if it was a thing where myself and DH or the kids also were invited for a weekend lunch. When you’re invited like that, you normally expect a main meal. If it turned out to be soup, I’d enjoy it and obviously not comment.

Soup feels like the smaller meal of the day. Fine if you have guests for more than one meal or a mid-week snack lunch with a friend. Not really what you give friends who have come as a family and travelled a distance and who are just having one meal with you.

JudgeRudy · 09/04/2023 20:58

Well if I was invited round for dinner (so 7/8pm) I'd be a bit disappointed to be served soup, however if me and OH had another couple friend call round with a bottle for the evening, if I was served a small bowl of soup at 9pm and had biscuits or sweets to pick at I'd be delighted. Soup would be great for lunch too especially with homemade bread.
I guess the real point though is....here it comes....what does HE generally serve his guest?....thought so šŸ¤”

Peppadog · 09/04/2023 20:56

Soup is fine for lunch, but for dinner it's a starter

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 20:55

Until we find out why DH doesn’t cook himself, how can we know if it’s a partnership?

Isn’t every relationship supposed to be a partnership? Why would you deliberately keep making food one half of the partnership didn’t want you to make?

Fairislefandango · 09/04/2023 20:51

I'm not sure any opinions should be based on Jilly Cooper...

I couldn’t sit round a table with everyone slurping soup.

The answer to that is probably only to have lunch with people capable of eating soup without slurping.

OriginalUsername2 · 09/04/2023 20:49

I couldn’t sit round a table with everyone slurping soup.

JimmyDurham · 09/04/2023 20:48

According to Jilly Cooper in "Class" no gentleman eats soup at lunchtime. HTH.

Fairislefandango · 09/04/2023 20:47

I mean, yes, I absolutely would check if my guests actually liked what I was planning on serving them! Is that not just polite / considerate?

No, it's odd imo. I'd just invite people for lunch. I wouldn't ask them what they like and don't like in advance as though they were fussy toddlers. I'd expect them to let me know if they had any allergies or intolerances. And I certainly wouldn't expto be consulted about the menu if I were invited to someone else's house for a meal.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 20:46

@LuckySantangelo35 not sure why you're picking on me when plenty of other in the thread have similar opinions.

Because she pops up on literally every food-related thread and her posts are always bonkers. You’re obviously today’s target.

Ktime · 09/04/2023 20:44

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 20:42

All the ā€œWhy doesn’t DH do the cooking if he doesn’t like it?ā€ posters are missing the point. The OP posted and ran, so we have no idea whether they actually take turns in cooking or if he’s never so much as picked up a spatula. The point is that the OP has served soup to guests often enough for it to become a ā€œrunning jokeā€, despite her husband having made clear he’d rather she didn’t. Who makes a point of doing something they know their partner doesn’t want them to do? I thought the whole point of being in a relationship is that it’s a partnership. Sometimes when I read Mumsnet it sounds like it’s just one long argument with endless oneupmanship. Why bother?

The ā€œWell, I make an amazing soup with double cream, finest cognac, spices the likes of which you’ve never seen and unicorn tearsā€ brigade are missing the point too. The OP made it perfectly clear that she makes soup because it’s easy and she can freeze it - so I think we can safely assume Endangered Condor snd Stardust Bisque is off the menu.

We’re not missing the point, because there is no point as OP didn’t return. Until we find out why DH doesn’t cook himself, how can we know if it’s a partnership?

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 09/04/2023 20:42

All the ā€œWhy doesn’t DH do the cooking if he doesn’t like it?ā€ posters are missing the point. The OP posted and ran, so we have no idea whether they actually take turns in cooking or if he’s never so much as picked up a spatula. The point is that the OP has served soup to guests often enough for it to become a ā€œrunning jokeā€, despite her husband having made clear he’d rather she didn’t. Who makes a point of doing something they know their partner doesn’t want them to do? I thought the whole point of being in a relationship is that it’s a partnership. Sometimes when I read Mumsnet it sounds like it’s just one long argument with endless oneupmanship. Why bother?

The ā€œWell, I make an amazing soup with double cream, finest cognac, spices the likes of which you’ve never seen and unicorn tearsā€ brigade are missing the point too. The OP made it perfectly clear that she makes soup because it’s easy and she can freeze it - so I think we can safely assume Endangered Condor snd Stardust Bisque is off the menu.

Sensibletrousers · 09/04/2023 19:52

Fairislefandango · 09/04/2023 18:09

I find soup absolutely revolting. Do you ask if your guests like soup, or just assume everyone does?

Surely you could ask the same question about literally any food a host decides to serve? Ewww - do you assume everyone likes cheese/chicken/tomatoes/cake/coffee etc?

I mean, yes, I absolutely would check if my guests actually liked what I was planning on serving them! Is that not just polite / considerate?