Page 4 | Who was PM during the best of times for you?

verdantverdure · 2023-03-29T21:44:26+00:00

Me? Blair. Brown, first bit of Cameron. On paper I earn more money now but everything's tits up isn't it? From the economy to shit on beaches to being able to get access to the NHS when needed.

Howpo · 09/10/2023 19:07

FullHousey · 09/10/2023 12:46

Hear, hear.

Show quote history

Blair was found not to have lied by the inquiry and in anycase, whilst i agree the war destabilised the region, Bush/USA was going to get rid of Saddam regardless, the war was baked in.

But Cameron et al getting rid of Ghaddafi was equally a disastrous war, the people coming across the Med now are as a direct result of no stability in Libya.

Funny how tory supporters so enraged by migration never mention this war!

piscofrisco · 09/10/2023 18:41

Blair/Brown

PixiePirate · 09/10/2023 18:34

As an adult, Tony Blair. At the time it really felt like New Labour reinvigorated the country and the world felt full of possibilities.

I can’t deny though that as a child, Margaret Thatcher’s government gave my parents/our family a leg up that my parents embraced and that drastically improved our futures. 100% realise that this wasn’t the case for everyone though, and that there was a lot of misery and suffering experienced during that time.

Tumbleweed101 · 09/10/2023 18:27

Blair - tax credits made a huge difference to my life.

HappiestSleeping · 09/10/2023 18:23

sadaboutmycat · 09/10/2023 17:27

The question wasn't who was your favourite- the question was who was PM in the best time of your life.

Show quote history

That's a good point. In that case, my answer has to be Thatcher 😮

HappiestSleeping · 09/10/2023 18:22

verdantverdure · 09/10/2023 17:26

Both sides knew that obviously rationally Brexit was a bad idea.

No one thought we would actually be daft enough to vote to impose economic sanctions on ourselves.

I guess they underestimated how susceptible to manipulation some of us are.

Show quote history

It's incredible isn't it? It just beggars belief.

sadaboutmycat · 09/10/2023 17:27

ClareBlue · 29/03/2023 22:58

All those saying Blair were presumably not sent to kill and bomb innocent people in an illegal war. But, hey, everything good and fun at home so who cares.

The question wasn't who was your favourite- the question was who was PM in the best time of your life.

Original poster

verdantverdure · 09/10/2023 17:26

HappiestSleeping · 09/10/2023 13:18

Cameron was responsible for Brexit. He was right to have a referendum, but he should have set a limit to have a clear majority, 60 or 65% in order to act.

Not one of them on either side actually had a plan for if they won. Admittedly, if remain had won, then remain was the plan, but not one of the leavers actually had a plan for if they won. And we are reaping the rewards of that now. What a Croc of shit.

Both sides knew that obviously rationally Brexit was a bad idea.

No one thought we would actually be daft enough to vote to impose economic sanctions on ourselves.

I guess they underestimated how susceptible to manipulation some of us are.

OP posts:

sadaboutmycat · 09/10/2023 17:25

Notnormalami · 29/03/2023 22:55

Sunak

Can you explain why these are the best of times for you please? Thanks!

sadaboutmycat · 09/10/2023 17:24

Wilson Blair and Brown for me.

meatyryvita · 09/10/2023 17:22

VestaTilley · 29/03/2023 22:54

Tony Blair. Hands down.

The 1997 - 2001 Government was bloody incredible. I miss it every day.

And I miss the Labour Party of those days too.

Same - a truly fantastic time!

CheshireCat1 · 09/10/2023 17:13

Blair/Brown

Givemepeas · 09/10/2023 17:08

‘Winston Churchill’
😅
when? During WW2? Nothing like a good world war to keep the fun times rolling…

Original poster

verdantverdure · 09/10/2023 17:05

LaraMargot · 09/10/2023 15:06

Winston Churchill

That's what my great aunt said but she didn't elaborate.

OP posts:

QuintanaRoo · 09/10/2023 16:16

LaraMargot · 09/10/2023 15:06

Winston Churchill

Were the 50s really that good? Financially, economically? Especially for women?

LaraMargot · 09/10/2023 15:06

Winston Churchill

beguilingeyes · 09/10/2023 15:03

I so agree that it should've needed a super-majority. 52/48 was too narrow a margin to make such a significant (and disastrous) change. Especially since every subsequent Prime Minister has behaved as if it was 99/1.

HappiestSleeping · 09/10/2023 13:18

Cameron was responsible for Brexit. He was right to have a referendum, but he should have set a limit to have a clear majority, 60 or 65% in order to act.

Not one of them on either side actually had a plan for if they won. Admittedly, if remain had won, then remain was the plan, but not one of the leavers actually had a plan for if they won. And we are reaping the rewards of that now. What a Croc of shit.

Original poster

verdantverdure · 09/10/2023 12:56

Hang on, I thought John Major and Maastricht were responsible for Brexit.

Now it's Tony Blair "flooding the country with mass immigration"?

I didn't realise that Tony Blair has been in power since the Brexit bongs!

Who was PM during the best of times for you?

OP posts:

Roxy4321 · 09/10/2023 12:54

Blair / Brown

FullHousey · 09/10/2023 12:46

GobbieMaggie · 30/03/2023 11:17

Blair lied through his teeth at the despatch box and dragged us into an illegal war that costs £ billions - on the strength of a fictitious dossier, dreamt up by his spin doctor, that destabilized an entire region and led to the deaths of 100,000 ppl. He then went on to flood the country with mass immigration ( one of the prime reasons for Brexit ) and gave up £7bn of the rebate negotiated by Margaret Thatcher ( the gnomes of Brussels must have been pissing themselves laughing ). Brown then, brilliantly, mounted a glossal raid on pensions that cost £118 Billion and sold our gold reserves when gold was at it's lowest price for 20 years.

Today, Blair ( the multi £millionaire ) is reviled for his part in the Iraq War and widely seen as a war criminal. Brown, the unelected, is just seen as incompetent, certainly in the city of London where ppl shake their heads when anybody mentions his name, which isn't very often.

Hear, hear.

SingingSands · 09/10/2023 12:10

Blair

There was an optimism about the UK - remember "Cool Britannia?"

Squirrelsnut · 09/10/2023 11:46

Blair

MarshaBradyo · 09/10/2023 11:45

verdantverdure · 09/10/2023 11:37

Perhaps you're right @MrsBennetsPoorNerves.

I don't remember any serious ill effects personally, beyond slightly worrying about the implications for the world and the country and wondering why we let the finance industry do this kind of thing.

We had a mortgage and pensions and I was pregnant but it felt nothing like all the interest rate hikes, negative equity and repossessions in the 90s or the inflation, lack of growth and mortgage rate hikes currently.

Show quote history

Which sector were you working in?

Original poster

verdantverdure · 09/10/2023 11:37

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 09/10/2023 10:07

I was directly affected by the 2008 crash. I knew that my employer wouldn't survive so I jumped ship before being made redundant. Most of my colleagues lost their jobs shortly afterwards. I think most people felt the impact at the time. Many ignored the fact that it was a global crash and blamed the Labour government.

I don't think it's the case that people didn't feel it at the time. It's simply that things have got so much worse since then that the memory doesn't now seem so bad. It's all relative.

Perhaps you're right @MrsBennetsPoorNerves.

I don't remember any serious ill effects personally, beyond slightly worrying about the implications for the world and the country and wondering why we let the finance industry do this kind of thing.

We had a mortgage and pensions and I was pregnant but it felt nothing like all the interest rate hikes, negative equity and repossessions in the 90s or the inflation, lack of growth and mortgage rate hikes currently.

OP posts: