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"lived experience"

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rampagingrobot · 28/03/2023 20:49

I keep reading the phrase and it's winding me up!

When did "experience" become "lived experience". Does it actually mean anything different or is it just people trying to be wanky? Is there an "unlived" experience?

YANBU it's a wanky way of saying the same thing.
YABU it means something diffferent. (In which case, what??!!)

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buddhasbelly · 28/03/2023 21:07

But no, I wouldn’t say it’s wanky.

buddhasbelly · 28/03/2023 21:05

My sister has experience of alcoholism

I have lived experience of alcoholism as I’m a recovering alcoholic.

thats the type of context I usually see it used in and for where funding for certain projects apply so eg an organisation might want someone with lived experience of alcoholism that’s now in recovery.

not saying I agree with it but that’s usually the type of context I see it in.

Ponoka7 · 28/03/2023 21:05

"Lived experience simply means direct experience of something happening to you rather than simply having knowledge about that experience."

That. I used the phrase on a couple of threads about the newborn phase. I used it in a work capacity. It reminds professionals who are the experts in some areas, as opposed to being qualified. The medical world are experts at ignoring women's lived experience of many conditions.

CrunchyCarrot · 28/03/2023 21:03

depressionisheavy · 28/03/2023 20:57

Is there an "unlived" experience?

I think it comes from areas such as medicine where it is useful.

So the "lived experience" of the patient with condition X is different to the doctor's professional experience of condition X. Living with a condition out in the real world with all the challenges of normal life is very different from the professional knowledge in this instance, and it has been useful in these contexts because doctors learn so much from the lived experience of their patients and it makes them far better doctors.

But now has made its way into corporate buzzword bollocks.

I would say that one's so-called 'lived experience' used to be called 'personal experience'.

teacakie · 28/03/2023 21:03

I always thought it was the difference between something like being autistic or having a family member with autism.

My experience of being autistic is something I have lived, my experience of my DCs autism isn't.

Maybe not?

It's not something I say but I just took it to mean that.

rampagingrobot · 28/03/2023 21:02

I'm not buying it! I have experience of breaking my arm. I don't need to say "lived experience" of breaking my arm.

A doctor has experience of treating a broken arm.

I don't think it adds anything!

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FourTeaFallOut · 28/03/2023 21:01

I see your lived experience and raise you an embodied experience, for extra wankiness.

Igotjelly · 28/03/2023 20:59

Yes agree with PP. So in terms of policy makers (thinking for example Govt) they may have experience dealing with certain things such as deprivation, disability, racism etc. but without having lived it themselves. Hence the importance of engaging people with genuine experience living the theory.

depressionisheavy · 28/03/2023 20:57

Is there an "unlived" experience?

I think it comes from areas such as medicine where it is useful.

So the "lived experience" of the patient with condition X is different to the doctor's professional experience of condition X. Living with a condition out in the real world with all the challenges of normal life is very different from the professional knowledge in this instance, and it has been useful in these contexts because doctors learn so much from the lived experience of their patients and it makes them far better doctors.

But now has made its way into corporate buzzword bollocks.

CurrentHun · 28/03/2023 20:55

In the NHS it seems to be used to avoid saying that someone is a patient or is someone diagnosed with whatever it is. Dont know why. Eg meet CurentHun, with lived experience of migraines. It sounds like the social model being inappropriately applied to the medical somehow.

There isn’t a social equivalent of this in common use that I have come across anyway - eg meet CurrentHun who has lived experienced of free school meals or of poor housing etc. That would make more sense to me.

Iam4eels · 28/03/2023 20:54

Experience - I work with KS1 children between the ages of 5 and 7 so I have experience of these age ranges. Part of my job is delivering SEN interventions and support so I have experience of helping children with disabilities.

Lived experience - I have children of my own who have all passed through the 5-7 age range. Two of my children have disabilities and/or SEN. I have lived experience of these age ranges and issues.

Lived experience simply means direct experience of something happening to you rather than simply having knowledge about that experience.

maddening · 28/03/2023 20:51

That and "on a journey".🤣 such bull shit, it is like corporate speak but in real life.

JamSandle · 28/03/2023 20:50

Imo it's very wanky