To wonder how I approach my neighbour about her nude son

How old is your dd? Any older than about 10, I'd tell her to toughen up - of course she can go out the front - what nonsense

So if a 10 year old was flashed you'd tell them to grow up and that it was fine?
Fucking hell.

Honestly some of the replies on this thread are absolutely nuts.

I’m guessing you don’t have daughters? I hope to god you don’t …

Er,no I'm not talking about somebody deciding not to.speak.,
I'm talking about people,who can't speak ,some people are completely unableto.speak,my13 year old son has never uttered aword.inhis life that's not him.choosing not to speak ,for what ever reason his autism impacts him to such a degree that he's completely non verbal,that's what non verbal means

I know that's what you meant. But what I am saying is, the court won't not charge somebody because they are unable to speak. If they are unable to speak for medical reasons, the ruling will be slightly different.

If you don't tell the mother and he sexually assaulted someone else how would you feel?

Oh do get knotted

Yes, because the mothers stress level is the responsibility of the OP, and should be of greater concern than the wellbeing and safety of her daughter.

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This is just about the worst advice ever given in the history of Mumsnet.

How old is your dd? Any older than about 10, I'd tell her to toughen up - of course she can go out the front - what nonsense

So older than 10 a female child should just toughen up and tolerate sex crimes like flashing?
Jesus christ.

How old is your dd? Any older than about 10, I'd tell her to toughen up - of course she can go out the front - what nonsense.

As for the mum of the autistic lad - she already has enough on her plate without hearing about this as well. Let it go.

Er,no I'm not talking about somebody deciding not to.speak.,
I'm talking about people,who can't speak ,some people are completely unable to.speak ,my13 year old son has never uttered a word.in his life that's not him.choosing not to speak ,for what ever reason his autism impacts him to such a degree that he's completely non verbal,that's what non verbal means

x2boys why do you think being non-verbal means that they are above the law? They would be charged differently as other posters have said (not going to standard prison for example - there is a unit for people not far from me that are on the spectrum or have serious MH disorders that have committed crimes), but they would still be charged.

Well he's non verbal.which often is a giveaway for low intelligence,yes I'm sure people will.point out that somebody who.was once non verbal is now a professor at Oxbridge,and that some non verbal people have written books ,ect however in real.life most people who.are non verbal.and are autistic tend not to.have capacity and tend to be severely impacted ,they struggle to communicate even the very basics .

Being unable to speak doesn’t prevent the police charging someone with a crime. Witness testimony would be used as evidence. The difference is that a person with mental capacity would be sentenced to prison, whereas a person who lacks capacity would be placed in a secure unit for people with intellectual disabilities, or sent home with a care order. If the mum can’t prevent her son committing criminal acts then the authorities need to intervene and put appropriate supervision in place for everyone’s protection.

How would you charge and convict Someone when can't even speak?
how could you cross examine them? some of you don'tseem.to.havethe faintest clue about how severe autism can be

Autism doesn't make it ok to expose yourself to people in the street, which is classed as sexual assault!

And to answer your question, they would be charged based on witness statements, evidence, and in the case of people with learning disabilities, clinical/psychological history. What you are suggesting is that if somebody in court decides not to speak for a whole trial, there won't be a verdict.

Autism would be taken in to account but it doesn't make people above the law.

How would you charge and convict Someone when can't even speak?
how could you cross examine them? some of you don't seem.to.have the faintest clue about how severe autism can be

He has indecently exposed his penis to a child.
It's a form of sexual assault and he has broken the law.

Drop the autistic faux pass.

If someone doesn't have the mental capacity, but commit serious crime, they will need to be put into a professional facility / setting to stop the crimes from happening again. That's if they don't end up getting charged and convicted (again, which is entirely possible, even if you have autism you know..)

So I would definitely report this to social services for his own safety. If this is a repeated behaviour and has escalated to him being naked then his parents must take measures to prevent this from happening. Maybe they should have some sort of support from social services.

Protect your dd. Boys feelings are not more important than girls safety and feelings. You have no way of knowing what he is capable of. This sounds really scary. I really hate this be kind message for girls only. He cannot behave like this no matter what his issues are. He should not have done that. He needs much more supervision.

Males indecently exposing themselves usually do in an obvious state of arousal. At least that’s been my experience and that of friends when this has happened to us.

We have no idea whether the boy’s sexuality was a factor in this incident. It is more serious if it was, I think, but it is quite serious enough anyway. OP, I think your plans as of this morning were very good. You sound sensitive, but your DD rightly comes first for you and it is also very much in the boy’s interest that he never do this again.

Do you know the boy concerned and his actual mental capacity? Autism does not equate to low intelligence which is what many responders here seem to be assuming about this young man - that he is not mentally competent and lacks understanding which is a huge assumption to make. People with autism also have se drives- indeed some have deep interest in sexual things so nobody knows the intent here.

And quite frankly even if he is not mentally capable if he behaved this way towards somebody who didn’t know him and who did defend themselves he could end up injured.

The OPs 13 year old child has an older teen indecently expose himself to her and then chase her. Can people take a second to say well bloody done to the girl for having the presence of mind to get herself to safety and to discuss what happened, including her trauma, with her mother??

@x2boys
"As the mother of a young man with autism though you do.understand that it's a huge spectrum and a person has to have capacity to be charged with a crime?"

If they commit a serious crime but don't have capacity, then they'll be committed to a secure facility for people with intellectual disabilities. They won't, and shouldn't, be allowed to remain at large in society because they are a risk to others.

Don't be ridiculous,if course not ,🙄you started this by saying you would press charges the point is for a person to be charged with a crime they would have to.understand,what they have done ,im not in anyway minimising the behaviour but some posters can grasp,that some people with such disabilities are not capable if understanding what they have done .

I have a son with non verbal autism. He also has profound learning disabilities. He much prefers being naked, and loves being outside. He does not have the mental capacity to commit a crime.
However, if this were my son, I would most definitely want to know. Although he loves being nude outside, he shouldn't be nude outside, and I don't give him the opportunity to do so.
He requires supervision at all times and probably always will do.
Sometimes I think I'm doing all l can, but then he suddenly learns how to do something, and i have to revise it.
For example we had a chain on the door. He couldn't figure it out. I thought it was enough, but one day he did figure it out. And he escaped. So I had to make changes.
And I am very protective over my son, which is exactly why I would want to know.

As the mother of a young man with autism though you do.understand that it's a huge spectrum and a person has to have capacity to be charged with a crime?

I agree, I seriously hope some posters are just posting shite like "she's over sensitive" for the LOL's and reaction. Do they really believe a young teen girl shouldn't be upset over being chased by a larger, older, naked teen boy. Otherwise i despair for their ignorance and misogyny.