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To wonder how I approach my neighbour about her nude son

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Meanswell · 26/03/2023 22:14

So i feel quite awkward in posting this but i am wondering the best approach as I don’t want to upset anyone but i need to protect my child.

A neighbour who lives near me has a teenage son with non verbal autism. He sometimes like to stand outside the front of the houses. Today my daughter was taking the dog out for a walk. He was outside naked with everything on display. My daughter stood in one spot and he kind of ran towards her. She came straight back in and locked the doo. I genuinely don’t think he meant anything by it but he was left alone for a couple of minutes.

I genuinely don’t want to upset his mum and I know he doesn’t understand why he cannot do that. My daughter feels quite shocked and said she will never go out the front again. I am now worried if he acts inappropriately again, how do I approach this situation gently.

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Dirtydiesel · 28/03/2023 09:12

I don't know any mothers of teenage boys or young adults with a severe learning disability who do not understand that their child has sexual feelings. People may have had that view in the past ( that our children are just like babies) but I haven't seen that view recently 'on the ground'.
There are only a few on here with that view and I wonder about the actual experience of those parents.
It is likely that there was no malicious intent ie the boy did not go outside to attack or frighten anyone but harm could unintentionally be caused, he is himself at risk and the OP's daughter is understandably upset.

Divorcedalongtime · 28/03/2023 09:07

Also, am I the only one who noticed? “He normally stands outside in boxers but today he was naked”

why is he standing outside wearing just boxers, that’s not much better than being naked.

bellac11 · 28/03/2023 08:38

LaviniasBigBloomers · 28/03/2023 07:45

That's an enormous jump and actually, really unfair.

It doesn't sound like she can't be arsed, it sounds like she's utterly broken by a system that does not give a shit for autistic people post-16, and really not that much of a shit before then. There's not actually much I could do to restrain my 6 foot 17 year old, we're lucky that this is not us.

That's not to say that the OP needs to pick up any of that burden, her job is to support and protect her daughter. But I don't imagine the other mother is having a great time at their expense.

Well you'd be amazed (not by reading this thread) how many people minmise risk from people with special needs or disabilities, simply because they have special needs or disabilities

Look at the naivety on this thread that 'nothing was intended' 'he wont have meant anything sexual by it', even from people who say they have autistic or learning disabled children themselves.

Therefore its not unlikely that the mother thinks no harm done or doesnt understand his sexual urges and therefore isnt acting to prevent him being a risk to women.

Valeriekat · 28/03/2023 07:47

Raineth · 26/03/2023 22:23

Oh fuck off, no girls don’t need to be educated that they must be kind and accept that some men will flash them and chase them while naked.

OP text the boy’s mother if you have her number, or speak to her if you don’t. Keep it very calm and fact based. “Hi. My daughter is currently scared to leave the house because your son keeps standing out the front completely naked and recently chased her home, naked. I know the situation is very difficult. My daughter has a right to leave the house without being chased by naked men. What can you do to prevent this happening again?”

Yes, just because he is autistic does not mean that he is allowed to frighten young girls. What else is she supposed to forgive/understand.

LaviniasBigBloomers · 28/03/2023 07:45

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That's an enormous jump and actually, really unfair.

It doesn't sound like she can't be arsed, it sounds like she's utterly broken by a system that does not give a shit for autistic people post-16, and really not that much of a shit before then. There's not actually much I could do to restrain my 6 foot 17 year old, we're lucky that this is not us.

That's not to say that the OP needs to pick up any of that burden, her job is to support and protect her daughter. But I don't imagine the other mother is having a great time at their expense.

forgeti · 28/03/2023 07:43

lipstickwoman · 26/03/2023 22:18

I'd just talk to your daughter and explain. Simple.

Your neighbour is probably completely mortified and doing the best she can. There was nothing malicious or pervy. Your daughter needs to understand there are people in this life who need some tolerance and understanding

Words can’t explain how much I disagree with this. Many women wouldn’t want a naked man running towards them as it’s scary. It’s like a man approaching you with a knife and you chiming in “he needs tolerance and understanding!”. It will obviously raise your blood pressure in the moment even if nothing comes of it.

ExpatInSlavikLand · 28/03/2023 07:40

*Mamma bear

ExpatInSlavikLand · 28/03/2023 07:39

Meanswell · 26/03/2023 22:23

she is a teenager, she is younger than him. I dont think she’s being dramatic, even though he doesnt mean it maliciously i think to be confronted with stranger naked running towards you you can be shocked.

OP I feel that some of the responders here are gaslighting you.

Autistic or not, he was a male, assumedly an older teenager or young adult (as you say your teenaged daughter is younger than him) and he effectively chased her while fully naked.

Honestly, who's to say what might have happened had he caught her? Disabled people still have 'urges', after all.

It must've been extremely frightening for your poor daughter.

Stop trying to be PC and unleash your inner mana bear. Speak to the boy's mother. Tell her exactly what happened. Tell her that if such a thing happens again, you'll be contacting the police.

onirgellep · 28/03/2023 07:39

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Neglectful? Lazy? Maybe. Or a burnt-out/broken carer? IDK Often there's little or no support for mums like this over decades

And who would make a better carer for this young person? There's little to no suitable respite care, or specialist foster carers/childrens homes or residential school/college placements

As you'll know back in the 1970s there were large asylums where these sorts of young people could be 'cared' for = all closed long ago because of neglect/abuse and grim lives of institutionalision. Parents were encouraged to admit their children at 12 and then go home and forget about them

Clearly being cared for in the community is a better prospect but only if the care is actually provided = and it;s not

ItsMeAgainYesHowDidYouGuess2 · 28/03/2023 04:54

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bluegreygreen · 27/03/2023 23:49

There are two young people who require safeguarding in this scenario.

Those who minimise the significance of the event (or think they can tell the boy's motive because they know some other people with autism ??? ) would risk causing harm to both.

OP's primary responsibility is to her daughter; if she can also help the boy's mother to access professional support 5hat would be generous but not her responsibility.

Her daughter has no responsibility to her older, larger male neighbour. She did exactly the right thing in getting herself out of harm's way. She should not be encouraged to do differently (talk to him? understand that his brain works differently?) at her own risk.

Dirtydiesel · 27/03/2023 23:23

I have a 16 year old with autism and a severe learning disability and I would be furious if someone caring for him allowed him to be wandering around outside without clothes on.

jetHenley · 27/03/2023 23:18

Aerielview · 27/03/2023 20:29

It would seem that a lot of the replies excusing the boy's behaviour have been made by mothers who have autistic sons. (not all - some are speaking unbiasedly in saying his behaviour is unacceptable)

This blindspot that some mothers have regarding their sons hormones and sex drive is causing them to downplay and minimise what the boy has done, and the impact it has had on a 13 year old girl.
This is unacceptable, and as a mother of young girls I find it very, very concerning.

Totally agree

Dirtydiesel · 27/03/2023 23:15

"and everybody is speculating that he doesn't understand or has no sexual desire because autistic people are like babies wtaf."

People who cannot communicate and do not understand, are not babies.

Shz · 27/03/2023 23:05

Non verbal does not equate to low intelligence, end of. You are making absolutely ridiculous (and insulting) assumptions about a person you do not know.

And people who are not autistic can also have low mental capacity, they too are not above the law.

Deeply deeply concerned that you appear to think an autism diagnosis equals being allowed to behave in ways that endanger others.

Diagnosis doesn’t mean any of us get to behave however we please without consequence. It just doesn’t

Zooeyzo · 27/03/2023 23:03

It's very worrying how many of the posters are infantalizing the autistic boy. He may well be non verbal but communicates using a device or sign. Just because he doesn't talk doesn't understand or communicate.
Autistic people have the same biology and hormones as NT people- they're not aliens. The OP clearly doesn't know much about the boys situation and everybody is speculating that he doesn't understand or has no sexual desire because autistic people are like babies wtaf.
My son is autistic and this really worries me.

SunshineGeorgie · 27/03/2023 22:24

@saraclara

I'll say what I like

From the op: He didnt run in the house, my dds words were he sort of ran at me.

Jupiter15 · 27/03/2023 21:29

I’m shocked by the number of posters saying the daughter is being over dramatic. A teenage boy/ young man ran towards a young teenage girl outside her home, Naked! It is absolutely not ok. Just because he is autistic doesn’t mean it should just be ignored! Unbelievable.
Of course you can have empathy for the mother and her son but it still needs to be dealt with.

Jupiter15 · 27/03/2023 21:23

underneaththeash · 26/03/2023 22:27

if he’s non-verbal and a teenager he clearly won’t understand. Just ask your daughter to come and get you and then ring your neighbours doorbell and take him back inside.

Just because someone is non-verbal and autistic doesn’t mean they can’t understand!

Ionlydrinkondaysendinginy · 27/03/2023 21:15

Some of these comments I really hope you don't have daughters

OoooohMatron · 27/03/2023 21:06

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OoooohMatron · 27/03/2023 21:04

Dacadactyl · 26/03/2023 22:21

How old is your child?
Is she a teenager and being overly dramatic? Does she know and understand his issues?
Has he done this before?

I appreciate that, at any age, your daughter would have been freaked out by this. But, I haven't voted because I am curious as to how you answer the above.

Yeah that's right, young girl is exposed to and she's being over dramatic. Have a word with yourself. Personally OP, I wouldn't care if this boy has autism, my priority would be protecting my daughter. Speak to the mum.

Northernsouloldies · 27/03/2023 20:53

No one needs to see a naked person on the street let alone a 13yr old girl. This boys mum needs told ASAP. If it's not remedied I'd phone ss.

FrostyFifi · 27/03/2023 20:44

Running at a child would probably be seen as meeting both criteria then.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 27/03/2023 20:41

OK I've looked it up. It's not illegal to be naked in public, unless you're intimidating or doing it to shock, and it's up to the complainant to prove it.