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To wonder how I approach my neighbour about her nude son

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Meanswell · 26/03/2023 22:14

So i feel quite awkward in posting this but i am wondering the best approach as I don’t want to upset anyone but i need to protect my child.

A neighbour who lives near me has a teenage son with non verbal autism. He sometimes like to stand outside the front of the houses. Today my daughter was taking the dog out for a walk. He was outside naked with everything on display. My daughter stood in one spot and he kind of ran towards her. She came straight back in and locked the doo. I genuinely don’t think he meant anything by it but he was left alone for a couple of minutes.

I genuinely don’t want to upset his mum and I know he doesn’t understand why he cannot do that. My daughter feels quite shocked and said she will never go out the front again. I am now worried if he acts inappropriately again, how do I approach this situation gently.

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Groutyonehereagain · 27/03/2023 00:27

I would call the police and report what happened. It’s not on.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 27/03/2023 00:26

Raineth · 26/03/2023 22:23

Oh fuck off, no girls don’t need to be educated that they must be kind and accept that some men will flash them and chase them while naked.

OP text the boy’s mother if you have her number, or speak to her if you don’t. Keep it very calm and fact based. “Hi. My daughter is currently scared to leave the house because your son keeps standing out the front completely naked and recently chased her home, naked. I know the situation is very difficult. My daughter has a right to leave the house without being chased by naked men. What can you do to prevent this happening again?”

I tend to agree with this.

Tough situation for the boy's family but traumatizing others isn't the solution.

CoosLick · 27/03/2023 00:22

CreaturesAreSleeping · 27/03/2023 00:16

I can't believe some of the answers to this!
Your poor daughter, OP

Me neither!

It doesn't matter whether the boy is NT or ND, having ANYONE run at you naked on the street is shocking and frightening, regardless of whether you are 14 or 40. OP's DD doesn't have to make allowances for his behaviour, it's unacceptable, even if there is no ill intention. Definitely mention it to his mum OP, for his sake as well as your daughters.

Cocolatte24 · 27/03/2023 00:21

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ThereIbledit · 27/03/2023 00:20

Tell her the facts of what happened. Tell her that it wasn't acceptable behaviour and that you'd appreciate an assurance that it won't happen again. Don't tell her how to parent her son, that will only rile her up.

Report the incident to your local muti-agency safeguarding hub. His mum most likely wont be told about the report and it won't ever be communicated to her that you made it - but you need to report it for HIS safeguarding (as well as those around him).

Consider getting your daughter and yourself into some sort of martial arts training. It is an incredible confidence restorer, knowing that you would be able to handle it if that sort of thing happened again. (Before MNers jump on me I'm NOT saying it's the victims responsibility to learn how to physically handle the incident happening again - clearly it's his mum's responsibility to prevent it - but I imagine the incident has left a mark on OP's daughter's psyche and this would be a positive thing to redress that if so).

CreaturesAreSleeping · 27/03/2023 00:16

I can't believe some of the answers to this!
Your poor daughter, OP

Lysianthus · 27/03/2023 00:07

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I've reported your post. Either you're hard of thinking, or genuinely stupid.

Rosula · 27/03/2023 00:06

Meanswell · 26/03/2023 23:45

My deal is I wanted to approach her without upsetting her. My first reaction was to go and knock. However she is very overprotective, argumentative and I also want to be understanding and tactful whilst ensuring the safety of my child

I'd suggest you approach this on the basis that this behaviour is putting her child in danger, which it certainly is.

Rosula · 27/03/2023 00:05

Reinventinganna · 26/03/2023 23:42

‘He's nearly an adult now and he's lucky that a parent didn't publicity shame him online or went down there and started shouting and screaming or worst. Not everyone will know he's got learning difficulties’

No. These are your words.

The misquote related to @irreverent saying that @Danielle9891 had claimed that autism was not a learning disability - as she has acknowledged, she was mistaken, because of course it was you who incorrectly made that claim.

Dibbydoos · 27/03/2023 00:04

CalistoNoSolo · 26/03/2023 22:21

I think you're being way more understanding than I would be if that had happened to my daughter. Or me tbh.

There's always one....

LovingLivingLife · 27/03/2023 00:03

Meanswell · 26/03/2023 23:45

My deal is I wanted to approach her without upsetting her. My first reaction was to go and knock. However she is very overprotective, argumentative and I also want to be understanding and tactful whilst ensuring the safety of my child

I think if you already are expecting her to be dismissive & argumentative (I guess based on your previous interactions) then I would just stick to the facts. It's unlikely you will be able to avoid upsetting her as it's such a difficult topic and involves her son so she's obviously going to feel upset and want to defend him. Some of the replies in this post might give you an idea on what to expect.

You could try something like this

Unfortunately yesterday X,y,z happened. I find this unacceptable because... It has left my daughter feeling.... I felt it best to inform you as a first step. I trust it won't happen again.

If she tries to argue I would personally just disengage and not try to persuade her. I don't think you have much chance of changing her mind if she doesn't think it's a big deal.

WhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow · 27/03/2023 00:03

I don’t want to start a shitstorm here, but my friend’s son has a severe intellectual disability and as he as grown bigger and stronger he does act out sexually. This situation needs to be addressed.

snitzelvoncrumb · 27/03/2023 00:02

It’s tricky, he isn’t doing it deliberately. I would mention it to the neighbour politely. That would be traumatic for your daughter. If it happens a lot I would report it. Because one day he might get hurt as a result.

ireallycantthinkofaname · 27/03/2023 00:01

ToastMarmalade · 26/03/2023 23:59

I’m just a bit gobsmacked that people aren’t aware of how vulnerable this boy was to be out on his own naked, with no supervisory adults. In this scenario I would have knocked on the door and if met by a ‘what is the problem’ response I’d have phoned the police. I know it’s tough but you can get door locks specially for kids that can escape - and I’d be very worried that this boy is going to come to harm if he does this regularly.

The fact that he ran at OPs daughter seems to be the only thing people are focused on. A very vulnerable child, was naked, on his own!

I agree with this. It's a safeguarding issue for BOTH OP's daughter, and the boy, and that's why it's so pressing she speaks to neighbour/non emergency police about it so something is done!

ToastMarmalade · 26/03/2023 23:59

I’m just a bit gobsmacked that people aren’t aware of how vulnerable this boy was to be out on his own naked, with no supervisory adults. In this scenario I would have knocked on the door and if met by a ‘what is the problem’ response I’d have phoned the police. I know it’s tough but you can get door locks specially for kids that can escape - and I’d be very worried that this boy is going to come to harm if he does this regularly.

The fact that he ran at OPs daughter seems to be the only thing people are focused on. A very vulnerable child, was naked, on his own!

whumpthereitis · 26/03/2023 23:59

Bbq1 · 26/03/2023 23:49

Haven't rtft but the majority of it and I'm shocked at the lack of compassion and understanding shown towards the boy. He clearly has severe learning difficulties and is also non verbal. Clothes may be painful for him to wear hence his nakedness. He's much more at risk of harm than the girl and his poor mother must be struggling with his behaviour. All the drama with comments along the lines of how young women should be able to go out without naked men chasing them. Ffs, he's not a nt man chasing her and he's not a predator. I doubt he's capable of attacking her and probably has no desire to do so. I hope he and his mum get any support they need and I would teach boys and girls some empathy and yes, basic human kindness. Boys and girls. Not every male is a sexual predator.

Why are you so sure he wouldn’t have caused her harm? People with learning difficulties still have sexual feelings, and aren’t inherently incapable of acting on them or incapable of inflicting harm.

“There is evidence to suggest that incidence of physical and sexual abuse is higher amongst children and adults with a learning disability than in the general population.”

https://www.wirralsafeguarding.co.uk/procedures/11-9-assessing-sexual-perpetrators-learning-disabilities/

As uncomfortable a subject as it may be, it happens.

Compassion for him does not mean brushing it off like it’s not a big deal. It is a big deal, for him AND for her. Furthermore, her safety (and the safety of others around him)should not be sacrificed in the name of ‘compassion’.

headache · 26/03/2023 23:58

@Soontobe60 i agree with you it’s a safeguarding issue OP just go over and speak to his Mum - she may not be aware he was missing let alone naked and running after your DD. Children with ASD often like to be naked as wearing clothes can be a huge sensory issue for them.

He should be properly supervised at all time, being naked aside if he has no sense of danger he could have wandered off on his own. Steps need to be taken to ensure he is safe at all times.

His lack of safeguarding has led to your DDs lack of safeguarding unfortunately, she shouldn’t have been put in that position at all. Go speak to his Mum she will probably be upset and mortified but will want to know so she stop it happening again.

thedogsmum · 26/03/2023 23:58

I think you should tell the local police via the non-emergency number. This may not be a one-off so better that a record is built up.

To the posters saying that he meant no harm, or that you shouldn't call the police on an autistic child- i wouldn't if he was 6, but he's 16, he's not a small child, you have no idea if he intended any harm or not.

Even if he didn't mean any harm, he frightened a younger child, and she has a right to go about her day unmolested.

I know I would be frightened if this happened to me.

ItsMeAgainYesHowDidYouGuess2 · 26/03/2023 23:57

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Sleepyandconfused · 26/03/2023 23:57

Mumdiva99 · 26/03/2023 22:21

Protect your child from what?

How does she get on with the boy when he is clothed? Would she normally talk to him? If so then nothing bad has happened. I'm sure his parents are trying hard to look after him and as you say he was left alone for a short time.

Teach your daughter to treat him with compassion. Of course she can come back in if she's uncomfortable. But no need to be scared of him.

Umm… this doesn’t quite sit right with me. I’d not be telling me young daughter that she’s wrong for feeling afraid that a naked boy ran at her, or that the situation is totally safe and normal. Because it isn’t? It’s difficult to navigate but that doesn’t mean pretend it’s all fine and ignore it at the risk of the young daughter.

PerkyBlinder · 26/03/2023 23:57

As well as chatting with your neighbour it’s important to report to non emergency police so it is on record. They will treat with compassion but also it is a safeguarding issue and he is a risk to others and not just your daughter. This also demonstrates to your daughter that she and her safety is your priority above everything else.

A close friend has an autistic brother who physically abused her and her parents minimised and ignored the abuse. Autistic people often have bad impulse control and this together with an inability to understand social norms means this boy absolutely is a risk and that risk shouldn’t be minimised but safeguards need to be in place.

irreverent · 26/03/2023 23:57

@Meanswell I am sorry for some of my coarse language in some comments. But yeah ultimately I think you already know what to do. Obviously speak to the lads parents, but very much make sure your daughter doesn't feel intimidated by what happened. Make sure she knows how to defend herself and call for help.

ireallycantthinkofaname · 26/03/2023 23:57

Bbq1 · 26/03/2023 23:52

What? That nursing home needs looking at. That's a horrible dehumanising thing to do to the elderly and unwell.

I was quoting the original person who said "Perhaps besides being autistic he is mentally retardant. Maybe his IQ is like a child. Maybe his mother could put his clothes on backwards so he doesn’t take them off. We do that at the nursing home."
It's fucking sickening, and i hope doesn't actually go on but is rather some twisted individual's idea of humour

Bbq1 · 26/03/2023 23:54

He wasn't a 40 year old nt man "running at her" though but a severely autistic child.

Rosula · 26/03/2023 23:54

It’s not an excuse to say he’s autistic and “doesn’t understand” as that wouldn’t be accepted as an excuse if he didn’t understand the law and stole things from shops.

Just as a point of fact, @SNWannabe, it would be accepted as an excuse. To be convicted of theft it has to be proved that the accused had the intention to permanently deprive the owner of the goods in question. If you are mentally incapable of understanding, you cannot form the required intention and couldn't be convicted.

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