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School coming to home to view sick child - Normal?

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CandlelightGlow · 16/03/2023 10:59

I'm feeling really sensitive right now due to work stress so please be kind.

My 5 year old is off with chicken pox right now. He got the spots on Sunday, he's been quite poorly with it Monday - Tuesday, very sleepy, then very uncomfortable Weds waiting for the scabs to form. He's just started to feel better today but the school have an INSET day tomorrow anyway.

We just had a knock at the door, and it was a teacher from DS's school! He was very reluctant to come downstairs because he's only in his pants and thought the teacher was there to take him to school. She was very nice and said it's sad that they have to do this in this day and age but it's completely normal and they do it for everyone who's been off this length of time.

He's been off for 4 days? His older sister is at school so we've still done the school run every day. To be fair as it's an inset day tomorrow it will be over a week by the time he goes back on Monday. But I've never had a teacher come unannounced to our house to check on our child. Can someone reassure me it is actually normal and they don't think something bad of us! My poor boy is just ill. I've called him in and updated, updated again this morning saying he would be back on Monday!

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CandlelightGlow · 16/03/2023 11:33

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 16/03/2023 11:30

I’ve just looked up dd school policy out of interest from this post.
we have to phone by 9am every morning of illness. If we don’t and then we don’t answer a phone call, the next stage is for the DSL or deputy DDL to visit for a wellbeing check. If no answer then social care or police to be called.

Ah okay it might be this. However, I messaged this morning (possibly shortly after 9) and they said okay thanks for letting us know. I would have really appreciated if they had told me that my contact wasn't sufficient instead of just saying thanks.

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Spokentruth · 16/03/2023 11:33

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 16/03/2023 11:30

I’ve just looked up dd school policy out of interest from this post.
we have to phone by 9am every morning of illness. If we don’t and then we don’t answer a phone call, the next stage is for the DSL or deputy DDL to visit for a wellbeing check. If no answer then social care or police to be called.

Wow! We'd be on the phone all day at my school.

Marynotsocontrary · 16/03/2023 11:32

NillyNoMates · 16/03/2023 11:20

It’s normal for a member of pastoral staff to call around to check the child is actually there and is unwell. It’s unusual for it to be a teacher.

Is it?
I've never heard of it happening with either pastoral staff or tbut might be dependent on the school.
I would certain query this and seek clarity OP.
And I hope that teacher has had chickenpox!

TwoHedgehogs · 16/03/2023 11:32

TeeBee · 16/03/2023 11:15

I'd find that incredibly intrusive. I would contact the school and complain. Getting the poor kid out of bed. I can't imagine how lateness would trigger a visit such as this. I'd definitely be questioning it.

Yes I'd do the same, I'd be pretty mad if a teacher knocked on the door and requested I parade a poorly child in front of them, to decide in their expert medical opinion if they needed to be off? What if they were off with a headache or tummy ache and to look at appeared normal, what then? You are doing the school run with your other child so you clearly aren't on holiday or just too lazy to take your children to school, I'd be emailing them and clarifying exactly why they felt the need to show up unannounced to drag your child who was unwell out of bed? Next time you have norovirus in the house (you know there will be a next time with primary aged kids) make sure you invite them in 😁 they might believe you 24 hours later.

lottie2888 · 16/03/2023 11:30

My school does a home visit if you haven’t called in for three days. If you were persistently late then that would be a safeguarding issue. I don’t know if I’m remembering correctly from safeguarding training but persistent lateness is often seen a sign of neglect.
Why don’t you drop the head an email and ask?

CandlelightGlow · 16/03/2023 11:30

iaapap · 16/03/2023 11:27

Quite unusual IMO.

Kids get ill all the time, especially in the early years of school.

Did you end up bringing him down to show her?

Yes he was upset and my partner had to take him down anyway.

I've messaged them asking why this was done and how I can avoid it in future if it's anything I've done regarding reporting his absence (i.e. not phoning every morning and messaging instead). I've explained that this upset DS as he thought he was going to be taken to school.

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CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 16/03/2023 11:30

I’ve just looked up dd school policy out of interest from this post.
we have to phone by 9am every morning of illness. If we don’t and then we don’t answer a phone call, the next stage is for the DSL or deputy DDL to visit for a wellbeing check. If no answer then social care or police to be called.

Isheabastard · 16/03/2023 11:29

It makes me wonder if something very specific has happened in the past with other parents and their child at your sons school.

So perhaps that’s why it’s been followed up. Perhaps it’s just a blanket thing with no allowances ie your Dd is still attending, so it doesn’t mean you’ve scarpered off on holiday.

LondonBricks · 16/03/2023 11:29

CwmYoy · 16/03/2023 11:27

Of course it isn't totally normal.

As you'd know if you'd bothered to read posts from others saying it isn't. teachers and parents. This is not normal.

We did 350 such visits in January
It is totally totally normal in many many schools.

(22 years as a Headteacher, LA adviser, chair in 2 schools, trustee in 3 mats and a government adviser on attendance) But hey I should listen to parents and teachers on an anonymous thread on mumsnet!

Tgilaura · 16/03/2023 11:29

This is a policy in my current school. We have to have seen the child at least once every three days.
It is written as part of our safeguarding policy, and I suppose may seem a bit overzealous but we also have lots of students who school refuse and therefore it’s a good way of maintaining the connection to school.
However we are up front about it, it’s written in our policy, we have designated attendance officers. It’s just seen as normal now, but it’s been happening for years.

pointythings · 16/03/2023 11:27

Does your school not start at 9, like most schools? So as long as you arrive before 9, you aren't actually late?

iaapap · 16/03/2023 11:27

Quite unusual IMO.

Kids get ill all the time, especially in the early years of school.

Did you end up bringing him down to show her?

MandyMotherOfBrian · 16/03/2023 11:27

NillyNoMates · 16/03/2023 11:20

It’s normal for a member of pastoral staff to call around to check the child is actually there and is unwell. It’s unusual for it to be a teacher.

Yes, agree. My dc are at Uni now but even back when they were at Primary there was. Family Liaison Lead - though he was admin staff not a teacher. And he definitely visited pupils homes. Not just for a one off illness though, there would have to be other concerns too, I suppose persistence lateness might be one. Maybe schools have had to dish out these roles to actual teachers now if they can’t fund additional staff.

CwmYoy · 16/03/2023 11:27

LondonBricks · 16/03/2023 11:21

it is a safeguarding check
Totally normal.

Quite impressive really and says a lot about the school. Too many don't do it when they should.

Of course it isn't totally normal.

As you'd know if you'd bothered to read posts from others saying it isn't. teachers and parents. This is not normal.

Spokentruth · 16/03/2023 11:26

RudsyFarmer · 16/03/2023 11:24

I think let’s agree it was a safe guarding check. Now you need to find out why they decided your child might be at risk. I would be emailing the school and asking to have a conversation with either the teacher of a member of the safeguarding team and find out what they’re worried about.

I agree.

Pythonhyphen · 16/03/2023 11:26

Especially strange as he has a sibling who is in school. I'd contact the school and check this is standard protocol and not someone overstepping the mark, and why they felt it necessary. I agree with others safeguarding is important and all that but feels intrusive and worrying if you don't know why.

AviMav · 16/03/2023 11:26

NillyNoMates · 16/03/2023 11:20

It’s normal for a member of pastoral staff to call around to check the child is actually there and is unwell. It’s unusual for it to be a teacher.

It's not normal otherwise we would all get home visits. There's a protocol that has to be followed so if OP had spoken to the school they wouldn't just rock up at her door would.

I've heard of schools requesting proof of sickness but that is usually due to poor attendance.

MsFannySqueers · 16/03/2023 11:26

I was a teacher for many many years (Primary). Fair enough I retired several years ago so things may be different now. Teachers didn’t visit families at home apart from one visit just before the child started in Reception. These were booked in advance. All schools in the area I worked in had Educational Welfare Officers who would contact parents regarding attendance or lateness. It wasn’t the teacher’s role to do this.

missymousey · 16/03/2023 11:26

Our school has a wellbeing officer who would do this if it was part of a pattern of lateness or other concerns.

CandlelightGlow · 16/03/2023 11:26

mindutopia · 16/03/2023 11:25

That said, yes, I think it does make ridiculous assumptions about who cares for children when they are ill. I was ill a lot as a child (or 'ill' as I hated school) and I don't recall a single sick day home with either of my parents. I was always deposited at my grandparents like 20 minutes away because, of course, they needed to work. Would not being literally at home flag up an even bigger issue with the school?

That's a really good point. She literally said they needed to physically see him. What would I have done if he was at his nan's?

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Spokentruth · 16/03/2023 11:26

I'm a TA in primary and have not heard of this. Yes, we hear a lot of concerns about persistent absence but not a one off like this. Even with persistent absence, it's more likely to be a letter or a phone call. Never heard of a teacher going around to the house.

CandlelightGlow · 16/03/2023 11:25

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 16/03/2023 11:24

Unusual but makes me think if something has happened historically to a child in that school to make this a procedure....not all kids have good homelives, you have nothing to hide so nothing to worry about, but this could save.kids who have no voice other than the.adults paid to look out for them.

I am definitely happy to accept that, but if it's not routine I can't help but feel bad that they would consider me the kind of home where my children would be in trouble instead of sitting in bed with chicken pox.

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mindutopia · 16/03/2023 11:25

That said, yes, I think it does make ridiculous assumptions about who cares for children when they are ill. I was ill a lot as a child (or 'ill' as I hated school) and I don't recall a single sick day home with either of my parents. I was always deposited at my grandparents like 20 minutes away because, of course, they needed to work. Would not being literally at home flag up an even bigger issue with the school?

CandlelightGlow · 16/03/2023 11:24

Heckythump1 · 16/03/2023 11:17

Yep, they do this at our school now, and you have to ring in every day your child is off now, even if it's obvious they will be off for more than one consecutive day.(i.e. having a sickness bug/chicken pox)

It's because there's been an awful lot of unauthorised absence/people taking term time holidays etc.

I wonder if it's this. It would be silly to think we are on holiday as my older DD has been in every day this week with either me or DP bringing her!

I might message to clarify. I wonder if I have slipped up, I called on Monday to say that DS had just caught chicken pox, that he would be off and that I didn't expect him to be back in tomorrow or the next day. I had meetings all morning this week as I had a bunch of workshops, so I messaged on Dojo upon realising I hadn't called daily (though had explained on Monday not to expect him back the next day) to let them know he was obviously still off, and they responded and thanked me for letting them know. I also messaged this morning to say that he would definitely be back in on Monday, might be spotty, but shouldn't be infectious, hope that's okay.

Perhaps it's because I didn't phone every morning? It's so odd though as I phoned, messaged, and they have seen me in person each morning this week.

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PutinSmellsPassItOn · 16/03/2023 11:24

Unusual but makes me think if something has happened historically to a child in that school to make this a procedure....not all kids have good homelives, you have nothing to hide so nothing to worry about, but this could save.kids who have no voice other than the.adults paid to look out for them.

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