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To not allow DD to sleepover with her boyfriend

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hula3s · 08/03/2023 23:37

DD is 15 , she's in a relationship and her bf is also 15, theyve been in an on/off relationship since they were in year 7 but they haven't broken up for over a year.

He was diagnosed with sepsis last year and he was very unwell, he is still struggling with being very tired and weak etc. It did also affect DD a lot but she is now okay and she's supporting him.

It's his birthday this weekend and he's invited DD to spend it with him and his family at a small party which I have no issue with, the issue is he's asked DD to sleep over on Friday night, which I've said no to as I feel they're still too young.

DD is very annoyed at this and has said they aren't going to have sex (which I didn't mention) which I should ‘already know’ as he is still not 100% well, I don't care about him as it's the one thing he wants (he hasn't asked for a present, just to see her) etc.

I'm now wondering if I'm being a bit mean by saying no.

So mumsnet, AIBU?

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SharpLily · 10/05/2024 00:06

My best friend's parents had a similar attitude to mine about these things so like any creative teenager, she and her boyfriend had to improvise. As beds in homes were not an option, they found themselves in an alleyway, by this point a bit frustrated by their inability to express their love in an adult way and got a bit carried away. They were inexperienced and not in a comfortable position, and as they were just getting going, he slipped and went in the back way. Fell in, if you like. Dry and with some impetus. It was a genuine accident btw, he wasn't one of 'those' men. The result wasn't pretty and required medical help. Oh how we laugh about it now (one of my favourite teenage memories in fact) but it so wasn't funny at the time.

SharpLily · 10/05/2024 00:00

I'm not saying this is something I'd be happy with but I am interested in your reasoning as you say it's not about the sex (we all know they'll do that how and when they want to regardless of sleepovers and sharing rooms and beds or not). So if it's not the sex but she's 'too young', what is it she's too young for? To learn about a committed, trusting relationship while maintaining good communication with her parents? I don't mean that to be goady, I am genuinely interested.

My girls are younger than this so I have it all to come and I am dreading it. However my experience with my own parents means I certainly will avoid doing flat out 'no' answers to things and giving vague 'too young' explanations. In our house that sort of attitude made me feel I couldn't have discussions about relationships, sex and everything that goes with that including boundaries, safety etc. I felt I had to keep everything undercover and lied to them non-stop and I floundered, I really did. I took me a very long and difficult time to learn about mature and sensible relationships and I made a lot of mistakes, all avoidable. I cannot have my daughters feeling or doing what I did.

ObliviousCoalmine · 09/05/2024 23:25

It was a year ago, I'm assuming she's made the decision by now.

MigGirl · 09/05/2024 22:16

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/03/2023 23:39

Same room or not?

Haha, that doesn't make any difference. I was 18/19 and remember bf sleeping over and us sneaking into each others rooms.

I would say no she's to young and as I've pointed out already sleeping arrangements don't matter. Unless someone is going to sleep in the same room to.make sure they don't sneak around.

Fansandblankets · 09/05/2024 22:13

girlfriend44 · 08/03/2023 23:51

How stupid, nothing to do with respect it's hormones and human nature taking over.

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Crunchymum · 09/03/2023 13:15

I used to stay over at my BF house when we were 15. I used to sleep in his sisters room and sneak in to him after his parents went to bed and we'd do everything bar have sex

God I'm dreading mine being teenagers 😳

Stand firm OP. It honestly didn't do me any harm (we didn't have full sex despite numerous sleep overs and we were together for 18 months) but you've already said no so don't back down.

RedHelenB · 09/03/2023 13:05

Yabu.

Gemiradu · 09/03/2023 12:55

If they are merely sleeping then why is there a need for her to stay over? It isn't too far to collect her so collect her after the party.

No, you can't stop teens having sex but you can stop facilitating it especially for one under the age of consent no matter how mature they think they are. How many unplanned pregnancies are there on MN from adults? What do you think the failure of contraception rate is for teens?

Endeavour1971 · 09/03/2023 12:48

I had a sleepover at my boyfriends (16) when I was 15. Separate rooms. He sneaked in when everyone was asleep, and yes, we had sex.

If you agree this, know that your daughter will almost certainly be having sex

Travelationjubilation · 09/03/2023 12:31

Absolutely not, she's 15, there's no discussion to be had.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 09/03/2023 12:31

@hula3s See my comment above ^ If teens want, they will find a way. On occasion I'd let my boyfriend in for a shag and then let him out again. Separate rooms didn't stop us.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 09/03/2023 12:29

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 08/03/2023 23:38

Can you speak to his parents about sleeping arrangements? I’m sure it could be managed.

I used to shag my boyfriend in the dead of night on the living room floor when my parents tried to implement this type of 'arrangement'.

YANBU. After a party is not the time to allow a first sleepover.

Plirtle · 09/03/2023 12:24

Well they want to have sex with each other, so if you are OK with that then yes, let them. Otherwise, no.

PollyPut · 09/03/2023 12:18

Soakitup37 · 09/03/2023 00:14

are they just 15 or almost 16? That does make a difference.

I was with my teen boyfriend from 15 to 21 and by 16 sex was very much on the cards. My parents said they’d rather we were educated and safe than us being told no and doing it anyway. Which would have definitely been the case.

If it not about sex what’s bothering you? They are obviously very close and fond of each other.

Legally, almost 16 is still 15. Therefore it's not legal and that does make a difference.

@hula3s YANBU

StarlightLady · 09/03/2023 12:14

To add to my previous comment. I was sexually active at 15, it didn't scar me for life; no lectures please, I'm in my 40s now in a professional job. But I never had sex when parents were in the house. I expect your daughter is likely to be similar.

hula3s · 09/03/2023 10:40

He's turning 16 at the weekend, but DD isn't for another few months. I don't have an issue with her having a boyfriend as the majority of her friends have/have had boyfriends so I assume it is normal for 15yos.

I'm not stopping her from seeing him on his birthday as that isn't until Saturday.

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ActDottie · 09/03/2023 10:39

Before saying no I’d speak to the boyfriends parents to understand where she’ll be sleeping. If it’s separate rooms I think it’s fine.

SirVixofVixHall · 09/03/2023 10:09

Aquamarine1029 · 08/03/2023 23:40

She's 15, she does not need to sleep over at her boyfriend's, especially if that's not something you agree with. You're the parent, you make the rules, and anyone else's opinion on the matter is irrelevant.

Agree with this.
My dd is 15. No boyfriends yet, but if she had one then I would not allow this. As a teenager I wasn’t allowed any boys in my bedroom at any time. I didn’t feel deprived, it actually helped me enforce boundaries on my boyfriend when I was 17 and not ready for a sexual relationship.
I also agree about respect mentioned by pps.

loafintheoven · 09/03/2023 09:57

The maturity of 15-year-old girls is very uneven. My DD is 16, and quite responsible, able to assert her own boundaries, very aware of safety, consent issues, etc. It doesn't stop me worrying about her. I think my answer would have been a no at 15 (and she probably would have been grateful for the excuse to say no), but the decision really is yours, as you know your DD best.

blubberball · 09/03/2023 09:34

I'd have to say no she can't sleep over. I'd say that as the parent of the boy as well. I have a teen ds and a pre teen ds. No way I'd allow a 15 year old girl to stay over night. Not worth the risk, and they could end up in big trouble.

Definitely keep on with sex education at the same time. If they do end up sneaking around, at least you've done everything you can do as a parent to keep them safe.

Over 16 could be a slightly different. At least then they are legally age of consent. Still hammer home sex education though.

StarlightLady · 09/03/2023 09:17

It depends on the actual young people involved. There is no “standard 15 year old daughter”.

lf your daughter is going to have sex, preventing her from going to this family event is not going to make any difference. You will though drive an (in my view) unnecessary wedge between you and your daughter when there are no safety issues.

l’m in my 40s and my late mother was the person some friends turned to for help rather than their own mothers. Which person do you want to be?

Whataretheodds · 09/03/2023 08:55

How far away do they live?

I agree no sleepover in the same room.

My parents definitely had a backchannel to my boyfriend's parents at that kind of age.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 09/03/2023 01:48

hula3s · 09/03/2023 00:01

They would be in the same room, yes. I don't think I can ban them from having sex, that isn't my reasons for saying no, I just think they're both still too young (especially DD).

DD also used the reasoning that she should be allowed as she is allowed in his room during the day, which his parents did confirm a few months ago as they said they do allow it when he's very tired and just wants to watch a film but they check on them regularly etc which they obviously won't be doing at night.

She is a very young teen. She should be focusing on education, career aspirations, fitness, and other foundations of a healthy productive life.

Not on prematurely latching on to some boy. Or being in a "relationship " for gods sake.

Show some leadership and nip this in the bud.

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