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To find the suburbs a bit depressing?

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StripeyNighty · 07/03/2023 14:09

I know I’ll get flamed for this, but I really do always feel depressed when I visit city suburbs that friends and family live in, and they’re spread around the country so I can’t even say it’s one particular place.

We visited some friends at the weekend who have recently moved to the suburbs of a medium sized city. Honestly, after 2 days I felt so depressed, yes the weather wasn’t great which doesn’t help as nowhere looks great in grey, gloomy weather but, as usual, it was just rows and rows and rows of almost identikit housing, interspersed with the odd kebab shop, Tesco express and laundrette.

We took their dog for a walk in their local park on the Saturday, it was heaving, dogs and kids everywhere, we witnessed a fight between 2 dogs and then their owners (though that wasn’t physical thank god) I’m not surprised to be honest as there was just no space for people or dogs to get away from one another. It just felt so busy and oppressive.

The traffic was so heavy all day and night, going in and out of the city. We went out into the city on the Saturday night and had to get taxis anyway as they’re nearly 3 miles out of the city and too cold to walk there and back in the eve.

The house prices in those suburbs are pretty extortionate and friends were sort of bragging that they now live in the area, I made all the right noises as horses for courses, but I just kept thinking how is this worth all that money, everyone on top of each other, no nice scenery or culture and putting up with the traffic and poor air quality and the same 2.4 children, SUV type set up everywhere!

I said to DH on the way home, I feel depressed and he joked ‘you always do when we go to suburbia’ and he’s right. Does anyone else feel that way 😳

OP posts:
FootieMama · 08/03/2023 20:00

I live in the suburbs. Two minutes from my door I have woodlands great for walking, 15 minutes I have train station to get into town. There is a theatre, several cinemas, even a couple of pubs with live music. I love the city but life here isn't bad and the schools are better and we can afford a bigger house. But it took me a while to adapt because I used to live in a very busy, vibrant area so initially it felt very boring. But there is things to do if you look for it

maddening · 08/03/2023 19:15

I live on a housing estate in a village and don't recognise the picture you have painted.

artsperson · 08/03/2023 19:05

I live in green and leafy suburbia with attractive Victorian and Edwardian houses, and some blocks of decent flatslarge parks nearby. It's a 10 minute walk to a train station, a few minutes walk to a bus service into town. A 30 minutes walk takes me to open countryside in one direction or 50 minutes walk to the sea. Obviously much faster by bus if I'm in a hurry. 10 minutes takes me to a tennis club, a decent fitness centre, a friendly pub, there's parades of local shops and churches. 30 minute walk to a cinema, 10 minutes by bus. Car parking on road is easy, permits, it's not full of multi occupancy houses, there's very little litter, no tags, people are polite. It all feels quite spacious and airy.
Gardens are full of spring flowers and soon the blossom will be out. Not everyone's cup of tea and I love the buzz of the city but my suburbia suits me.

AnnieSnap · 08/03/2023 18:41

I really like my suburb. It’s peaceful (most of the time) and the neighbours are friendly with each other, so there is support should someone need it. There hasn’t been a burglary for well over 20 years and no one gets there car nicked!

As to your AIBU, if you believe they shouldn’t exist, then yes, of course. If it’s not to want to live in a suburb, of course not. AIBU seems a bit OTT for this issue.

anon666 · 08/03/2023 18:14

So convenient though. I don't mind the aesthetics because of convenience but I live in a beautiful Victorian semi, walking distance from a pharmacy, corner shop, two lovely parks, cafés, Tesco express, three churches, two gyms, lots of childcare and so on. Plus a bus stop at the end of the road with a bus every 7 mins to a mainline tube station. Etc.

FWIW I think a lot of suburbs suffer from ugly development like lots of different types of PVC double glazing and rows of fast food outlets. Also derelict buildings and general neglect.

It's a failure of planning laws in my opinion, considering how much money has been made on property in the past 50 years, you'd think we could have achieved a better aesthetic outcome for everyone.

Instead we have a system where speculation and urban degeneration has been rewarded by profits. Our tax laws are some of the only ones in the world that allow someone to sit on an asset like land and infinitum paying no ownership privileges. There are no rules on paint colours and styles like they have elsewhere.

I'd tax the ownership of land and property rather than just on its sale/purchase. Then watch vacant property move hands out of absentee landlords..... And money laundering oil billionaires......

Then give residents and local wards/parishes more control over development in their area.

Middleagedspreadisreal · 08/03/2023 18:08

Each to their own. Some people are homeless. Do you judge them too?

JADS · 08/03/2023 10:05

Walked from Harborne into the centre of Birmingham at 41 weeks pregnant! I wouldn't even describe it as a suburb. We had loads of good things on our doorstep. Very fond memories of living there.

(Now live in Zone 5/6 and I would say that is the Suburbs, it's great. No way could I live in a tiny village or a sad town by the sea)

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/03/2023 10:00

Know what you mean. Much prefer a city centre.

Crikeyalmighty · 08/03/2023 09:58

@mixedrecycling ah my lovely city. Love a Georgian crescent!! We live on edge of it but can be in town in 6 minutes (bus every 5 minutes) and yet have fantastic parkland within 2 minutes with sheep. One reason I like it is lots of facilities and green space , but very few sprawling new estates as there is no room to do so and most people live within 2 miles of town - there are some excellent suburbs though out there that I've lived in over the years. West Bridgford in nottingham is one, summertown in Oxford is another, Henleaze in Bristol was quite nice as well - although a bit of a fag to get into town

garlictwist · 08/03/2023 09:46

I grew up in a suburban housing estate and hated it. Yes, it was fine as a kid as I could play out on my bike etc but after that it was just so drab, nowhere to go, nothing ever happened.

I now live very close to the city centre and love it. Everything's on my doorstep and there is still plenty of green space. My house backs on to woods and is on the top of a big hill so lots of views. Yes, it's a bit tatty but I'd prefer that to neatly mowed lawns and people who have an aneurism if the bin's not out on the right day.

KimberleyClark · 08/03/2023 08:52

I also dislike huge sprawling estates with no amenities within walking distance, if that is what is meant by suburbs.

lieselotte · 08/03/2023 08:39

New builds are fine, when they are small developments. You get houses more suited to modern living (eg enough plugs!) and a downstairs loo and the like are standard.

I don't like big estates though, especially when they only have one way in and out of them, and you need a car to get to anywhere easily. And the gardens are tiny in proportion to the house. That doesn't bother me, as I am not a gardener, but it's not very sensible when a family is buying a 4 bed house and the garden is a postage stamp.

TheOGCCL · 08/03/2023 07:29

I agree with you OP (as someone who lives in a city centre) but I think it’s hard to judge an area when you don’t live there as oftentimes people will have friends and family and a school community so it’s much more than just a dull conurbation to them. It also tends to be more affordable in terms of getting the space needed for a family and now there’s often less commuting. It’s not for me though.

mixedrecycling · 08/03/2023 07:07

WhatNoRaisins · 08/03/2023 06:32

See for me if I'm going to live somewhere where you have to drive everywhere I'd want it to be a pretty cottage in some beautiful rural idyll with gorgeous views. Grim looking streets and lack of amenities is the worst of both worlds to me.

As I said, I love our suburb because of the excellent public transport (to get to museums etc quickly and easily), and all amenities within walking distance.

As for grim looking - well, that's in the eye of the beholder. Gorgeous Georgian crescents were the identikit housing of their day!

To find the suburbs a bit depressing?
WhatNoRaisins · 08/03/2023 06:32

See for me if I'm going to live somewhere where you have to drive everywhere I'd want it to be a pretty cottage in some beautiful rural idyll with gorgeous views. Grim looking streets and lack of amenities is the worst of both worlds to me.

HeavenIsAHalfpipe · 07/03/2023 22:33

@StopGrowingPlease

I’ve just googled surburbs of where I live and we apparantly all live in them because it’s just another word for towns. 🤷‍♀️

Except it's not.

Suburbs.......

an outlying district of a city, especially a residential one:

skippy67 · 07/03/2023 21:38

crackofdoom · 07/03/2023 19:24

Is West Wickham the same place as West Wycombe?

No. West Wickham is in Bromley.

crackofdoom · 07/03/2023 21:13

(ponders writing a quirky travelogue about walking from West Wycombe, Buckinghamshire all the way through London to West Wickham, Kent. I could call it "Getting on my Wickham" or something 🤔)

Overthinkingnotdrinking · 07/03/2023 21:11

I live in a suburb and I agree op. If I could afford it I’d be back in the city in a minute.

timtam23 · 07/03/2023 21:07

crackofdoom · 07/03/2023 19:24

Is West Wickham the same place as West Wycombe?

@crackofdoom they are different, West Wickham is in Kent (although also in the outer London borough of Bromley)

footstoop · 07/03/2023 20:57

Yes, I'm in zone 3 and it's definitely not a suburb of London - it's it's own village with everything in it including the river/museums

I always thought a village was a small settlement in a rural area? There are areas in Z5 with museums,shops, cinemas, etc.

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 07/03/2023 20:49

I live in the suburb of a small city. 20 minutes to the city centre by car, 30-40 mins by bus, half an hour walking distance to a busy urban area with independent shops, cafes, bars, theatre, cinema. Loads of green space around us. Every one of the major supermarkets within 10 minutes by car, some in walking distance. Excellent schools. Minutes from the major road network, 20 minutes from the airport. It's great. Not all suburbs are created equal.

LaurieFairyCake · 07/03/2023 20:21

Yes, I'm in zone 3 and it's definitely not a suburb of London - it's it's own village with everything in it including the river/museums

walkies123 · 07/03/2023 20:09

LaurieFairyCake · 07/03/2023 14:30

Yep, lived on a housing estate in a town - endless 30's houses, no shops or services near

Was profoundly depressed for a decade but because I thought it was ME and not my environment did nothing about it

Kids go off to uni, I move into a big city with everything on my doorstep and within a week not depressed at all - and it's NEVER come back.

I gave up a 4 bed house, 400 year old oak trees, 200 foot garden, an allotment (!) - and I LOVED gardening to move into a 2 bed flat with a terrace

Happy every day...

Sounds absolutely brilliant!!
How different do your days/week look now?

Allshallbewell2021 · 07/03/2023 20:05

I love the suburb I live in, grew up in a suburb, have lived in two UK cities and I love the quiet and the people near but not on top of us.
We looked at sone commuter suburban areas and disliked some and loved others.
But I've lived in some very unfashionable places over the years and some friends never came because they didn't even want to visit a place they don't like!

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