This book, “My Trans Teen Misadventure for Children. WTF???

And do any of those books in suicide give a step by step guide on how to do it?

I fucking despair at people! Clearly propaganda and you’ve been taken

I know.
We should be teaching everyone how to be comfortable with themselves.
Having to have drugs and perform surgery on physically healthy bodies should be a last ditch attempt for individuals, not the standard approach.
And encouraging children to live in a way that requires 100% validation all the time, or they are hated/faced with genocide/certain to commit suicide, is grooming and breaking so many safeguards.
Any teacher encouraging books like this should not be a teacher.

Where is the narrative that the misery is solved by therapy, addressing the real issue, coming to terms with the past, loving yourself, dealing with the trauma/confusion

Exactly.

Its worse than that though, because the trans narrative is that misery is solved by being or becoming the other sex (although whether sex is ever mentioned I dont know) and that the route to that is via surgery/drugs

Where is the narrative that the misery is solved by therapy, addressing the real issue, coming to terms with the past, loving yourself, dealing with the trauma/confusion

As a self-harming teenager reading that I wasn't a total freak was actually quite helpful.

Presumably books that address self harm wouldn’t be published if they read as an instruction manual and telling you how great it is, without pointing out the dangers of self harm.
There’s a big difference between books offering solidarity and support, and self help tools, and a book advocating drugs and surgery without the very basic safety information.

I’m sorry, but you really shouldn’t be recommending this to any children, I would hope, as you are presumably a teacher, you can recognise propaganda. In case you can’t, this is it? Do you really think that it’s helpful for girls going through puberty to see their breasts referred to as “horrible fatty lumps”?

If you recommended this book to my child, I would be raising formal complaints about you at every level with the aim of having you struck off. You are endorsing body shaming young girls
and harmful thought processes and practices in an unbalanced way. it’s an horrendous, misogynistic book.

As teachers are often fond of reminding us, you are there to educate and not do a parent’s job, you are certainly not there to impose your political views or ideological theories on our children. If you think otherwise, you should be in a different profession, especially as you are clearly carrying over your own psychological trauma and letting this impact your judgement on how to deal with your pupils.

It does look like propaganda although I havent read it

We do accept social contagion problems for self harm and anorexia/eating disorders, its why there are strict rules about what is on the internet about those things.

Omg that book is fucking awful “fatty lumps that need to be gone” these are girls going through puberty, likely to feel uncomfortable about their changing bodies.

what sort of adult writes a book like that? I feel physically sick we are letting this near our kids. That such books reflecting a very very dark ideology certain adults seem to be imposing on kids. It’s child abuse in plain sight nominate for an award. WTAF?

I hope that Waterstones go bust: it’s what they end their staff deserve.

Er…teenagers are children.

Also it should be noted that this thread title is goady. It is not for children. It is for teenagers.

Trans people in books for young people are fine. Books telling vulnerable teenage girls that chopping parts off their body and taking drugs which have serious side effects is a good thing are not fine. Would you tell teenage girls that if they think they are fat to take diet pills and get liposuction? If not, why not? If a teen was self harming because they hated their body would you buy them the means to do so and show them the best places to cut? If not, why not? Why is affirmation of one dysphoria ok but not the others?

I will continue to support my students. Teachers don't have the influence on students you seem to think (nor do books). Which given the GCSE and A Level specifications for Lit is a good thing as otherwise I'd be teaching a bunch of murderers!

Stop recommending it to your students . Shame on you, it's not remote appropriate. Nor is it your bloody place to foist it on anybody else's kids.

Any yes to whoever said a pro-ana book would never be published.
Girls can and do fully recover from eating disorders, with support to learn to accept themselves.
A girl who has undergone puberty blockers and surgery may well have life changing consequences which cannot be reversed. Treatment should be support to accept themselves, not medicate and butcher them to fit some bizarre dogmatic belief. What in the medical model hell are we allowing?

@Happylittlechicken for exactly the same reason as I don't teach The Bell Jar at KS3 nor do I teach Hamlet. But this thread isn't really about discussing the book is it?
People here think there should be no trans people in books for young people.

This is just one page. Here are a few more.

Puberty blockers aren't a pause. Testosterone causes vaginal atrophy and together they cause infertility.

I would be appalled if a teacher recommended this book to children. It's propaganda.

Why not to your ks3 students @GrammarTeacher surely if it’s such an excellent, harmless book, they’d be just at the right age to read it? They’d be just at the age for puberty blockers, which are harmless and reversible according to this “excellent” book. I mean gastric bands are reversible so why don’t we have books promoting those to teenagers?

The picture shows a normal teenage girl’s body.
Most teen girls go through a phase of hating the changes they have gone through/are going through, particularly if they also happen to be autistic, have been sexually abused, or are mentally ill.
The book is showing girls it’s fine and normal to hate your body so much you want to chop bits off, and that yay, you can actually go ahead and do it now.
In what world is this ok? I can’t imagine any context - apart from begrudgingly accepting that the author is out to make money and share a self obsessed attention seeking tome - where this is ok to show teenagers?
Presumably those who seek it out to read are the very ones who should be protected from it.

Exactly. Many young people especially girls hate their bodies, their face, nose. I doubt this book would prompt someone without gender dysphoria to have their breasts surgically removed. Much like reading a book about being a lesbian would 'turn you gay'.
If teens are not vulnerable to divide vibration and self harm, why are pro anorexia and pro suicide sites blocked worldwide?
Because being transgender isn't seen as a dangerous disease maybe ?

Do you know what? As a self-harming teenager reading that I wasn't a total freak was actually quite helpful.
This is aimed at 14+ it's totally appropriate. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It is however, fantastically written and deserves its nomination.
I won't be recommending it to my KS3 students but I will to KS4 and 5.
As it happens Heartstopper deals with eating disorders and self harm.
This book shouldn't be judged on the basis of one page.

So how many of those books tell teens that taking powerful drugs and getting surgery are good things, do those books about eating disorders tell the readers how to get liposuction and diet pills? If they did would that be ok with you? Are those books telling children that affirming their dysphoria will make their lives better?

That book tells teens puberty blockers are harmless and reversible. We all know this is not true. so would you let your anorexic teen read a book telling them liposuction and dirt pills are harmless and will make their lives better? If not, why not?

Of course we get teen aka young adult books about self harm and eating disorders.

Here's a sample of 162 young adult fiction books about eating disorders
www.goodreads.com/list/show/2140.YA_Eating_Disorder_Fiction

And 304 young adult fiction books about self harm, suicide and depression
www.goodreads.com/list/show/13907.YA_Books_About_Mentioning_Depression_Self_Harm_And_Suicide

Again, if your teen decides to implement something in their own lives just because they've seen it in the media, you've got bigger problems.

Clearly you have some strong views on what other people should be allowed to do with their bodies.

What you're actually whining about is teens being exposed to ideas and views you disagree with. It isn't a good look.

So now do we get “adventures in anorexia” and “my self harm shenanigans” If it’s ok to promote self harm in the name of gender, surely it’s ok to promote it in other contexts? This book also refers to puberty blockers as reversible and safe. So spreading false info to vulnerable teens. If teens are not vulnerable to divide vibration and self harm, why are pro anorexia and pro suicide sites blocked worldwide?

So so sad for young people these days. What kind of messed up ideology promotes life long medication and mutilating surgery as the ideal?

And yes mutilation is what Sir Robert Winston called it. And as he said on Question Time, mutilation of this nature still does not change their sex.

Dark times indeed.