To think that INFJ is a made up thing?

It’s wanky. I suppose it’s no stupider than horoscopes but it would put me off someone on a dating site. Probably because I’ve known some really irritating blokes who are into the MB crap.

It wouldn't bother me - I see it as a shorthand for describing their personality.

As a very organised, methodical person who likes things to be carefully planned, the more spontaneous (P) types would drive me mad as a partner, so this would signpost people who were clearly "no". They could achieve the same thing by telling me this in words though.

He valued success and image above all else.

This trait is something that could be shown by anyone regardless of their type preferences. Establishing their propensity to value success and image about all else is really not relevant to Myers Briggs analysis.

So am I. I wish you hadn’t told me about Thatcher! 😱

not much above star signs as a reliable indicator of personality.

Agreed, but it does provide a reasonably neutral way to discuss differences, which I find really helpful.

Much more helpful than starting from 'my way of doing things is correct and everything else is wrong' which I've found to be pretty popular as an alternative.

It's horses for courses.

I went out a year ago with a bloke for a few months who described himself I think as entj, or it might have been i.

He was a multi millionaire, good looking, ran his own very successful business, fit, articulate.

We had a good time because going to his gorgeous house with its jacuzzi's and champagne on ice was like going on holiday.

But he was superior and a typical Tory capitalist. I recall how he laughed out loud and humiliated me when I ventured a positive of being a bit more left.

He valued success and image above all else.

Now that it's ended, I think I had a lucky escape. I think his ex wife would have been walking on egg shells around him trying to be perfect.

He found someone very quickly after me. Beautiful, glamorous, 20 years younger. I suspect they will be very happy together for a while. He because he gets to display how successful he is with this beautiful younger woman. She, because she's living a life she wouldn't otherwise be.

Horses for courses.

It's the equivalent of astrology for wanky types.

I would definitely scroll past anyone who put any Myers Briggs shite in their profile. It's not much above star signs as a reliable indicator of personality.
Pseudoscientific bollocks.

@lljkk

The 'J' tends to show a persons preference for sticking to a plan rather than the 'P' which is about being comfortable when plans change.

I'm very happy to make plans and have them change. Once DH is committed to a plan, he really really doesn't like it to change.

It's helpful for me to know this difference about us.

I couldn't take them seriously. Grown men writing them on their dating profile like teen girls with zodiac signs.

www.16personalities.com/intj-personality

I'm ENFP and find it really useful to know about friends, family and colleagues.

Things like whether they are

• energised by being with others or need time alone to recharge.
• comfortable or otherwise with spontaneity
• big picture or details people
• logical or gut feel decision makers

If I don't know their 'type', I'll ask them in other words. Ultimately, I'll assess them according to their actions.

I wouldn't pick someone based on their type, but I would adapt my expectations about what was comfortable or a stretch for them, according to what they tell me about eg their need for solitude.

The basis in Jung-personality types is I think sound. Issues arise if it were used for selection. I have come across lots of people who have been incorrectly typed, especially at work, because the self they 'present at work ' is not representative of their true preferences.

eg DH at work is very comfortable explaining the logic behind his decisions. Now I know him so much better, I know that he makes decisions based on gut feel and then adds the logic because that's what people expect at work. I noticed this when we were looking to buy a house. I had s list of must haves and nice to haves, scored each potential purchase on those criteria. DH said either I like it or I don't like it for each house.

So helpful to understand differences in a neutral way.

But an INFJ is the introverted extrovert. People often don’t understand why they are introverted. They like being around and are interested in other people.

People think I’m sociable and outgoing. I’m both thise things, but l need a lot of downtime away from people as l get drained easily.

"My brown hurts" 😂

Just as well you posted again @Arthurflecksfacepaint because I thought "There's another thing I've learnt from MN" and would have used it in conversation 😳

I still might, I rather like it.

I hate ‘standards’!

Im good at decision making though and conscientious. I think that’s what judging means.

This was used at a work placement I was hired for and I came out as INFJ, I was the only woman in a small team of sales people rather than being placed in customer services. I was also top of the sales team consistently until I left.

I have no idea if that is relevant but I also wouldn't dream of describing myself as that online or to someone.

J can mean "having standards". I thought that the British felt very strongly about it's a good thing to "have standards." And as for perfectionists... MN is full of them already.

I did a similar personality test for work, "Insights" ? Anyway, it did describe a few things about my roles in workplace exactly. I know the whole thing is mostly hokum, but I was surprised about what it got right.

Suspect I'm INTP I don't have standards at all.

Agree with all those saying it’s a no from them.
I’d definitely be put off someone who believes in corporate bullshit like that.

Do you want to date this guy?

I think it's helpful to signpost if you are introverted or extroverted.

I’m an INFJ.

I’m none of those things! Still come out as an INFJ every time.

Im The Advocate in myers briggs, think its INFJ

I wouldn't advertise this...

I'm an INFJ and I'm bloody amazing! Look up INFJs in relationships and it'll give you an idea what he's likely to be like.

Surely it would be quicker to just tell people that you are a narcissist?

He probably thinks that it makes him really interesting which probably means that he’s really not.

Myers Briggs is a very good way to understand yourself and what will work for you/others. I remember when a tutor on a training course split the group in two according to Myers Briggs and then asked us to draw the Eiffel Tower. The two approaches could not have been more different.

This is what he wants it to mean:

INFJ
Seek meaning and connection in ideas, relationships, and material possessions. Want to understand what motivates people and are insightful about others. Conscientious and committed to their firm values. Develop a clear vision about how best to serve the common good. Organized and decisive in implementing their vision.