To think a lot of posts on this social services Facebook group can’t be entirely truthful?

Of course it’s not the full story. People who can not fathom why a messy house ie a house with no/damaged doors, dogs roaming, dog shit on the floor along with piles of rubbish and no beds for the kids-only the kids mind as the adults will have beds is not an environment for a child need ss.
I would hazard a guess that there is a lot of talk about ss removing children from the working class for no reason to give to middle class couples to adopt.

It's utter bollocks. I've seen the RSPCA seize a dog from the same house Social Service refused to remove children from.

The house was an unbelievable mess - dog poo and pee on the floor of every room, a fridge full of mould, rubbish and mouldy leftovers on every surface, the smell would knock you out, all the people and dog sleeping on filthy mattresses in the floor with ancient blankets all soaked in pee at some point and stinking, multiple children, kids filthy and unwashed in who knows how long and wearing inappropriate clothing for the weather conditions and house temperature, bath full of icy cold dirty stagnant water with rubbish in there, bathroom floor covered in hundreds and hundreds of baby wipes and tissues, dirty nappies thrown around the house for months.... The list goes on. Yes the parents had massive issues themselves and all interventions (parenting courses, cookery classes, mothers helpers paid for by SS) were failing. This was a years long situation, not an immediate change in circumstances after say a bereavement, but the parents simply couldn't change.

Anyone saying their house is untidy in my experience are in utter denial about the other factors - it's about risk, not tidiness, so maybe needles or medication lying about, exposure to dangerous people or situations.....

I work in an arena where I see unbelievable relationships ongoing where the man is in prison for horrific sexual offences against children, yet people around them continue to enable relationships with children around them - actively trying to circumvent rules as opposed to not realising what they are doing.

People are utter wankers.

More like messy house =
Dog poo, piles of rubbish, rotting food, inadequate/unclean clothing, broken/minimal furniture, no food in the fridge and a complete lack of understanding about why that's not OK. Or a refusal to do anything about it.

It's not even about parenting as some questionable parenting going on all over the country. know a lady who was given chance after chance but still blamed everyone else and defended her abusive partner. Even their elder kids made disclosures to police and SS and still she was taken of child protection and had SS her life for years. Last incident they tried to help her leave him and she wouldn't and her child was place in care. She has contact but minimum.

In my experience through working in a school, lots of children on child protection or child in need plans have parents with learning difficulties that were probably never picked up at school. They genuinely do not understand what they are doing wrong as they are simply parenting the way their parents did (who probably also had unidentified learning difficulties or mental health problems). Parents who had abusive upbringings themselves also often have no concept of ‘normal’, e.g. if they were horribly abused they may well think that, by comparison, their children have a good life as they are ‘only’ neglected.

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It might be that they have a messy house, but that mess = dog poo on the floor, no proper bed etc

Of course there is more too it. Sorry if it sounds harsh but many of these people are of low intelligence.

Of course there's more to it.

If SS came to my house and put my kids on a CP plan cos it was messy, I'd clean it up. Why do these FB posters not do that, if its the only issue? Because it's not the only issue.

Most of it will be denial about how lacking their parenting is.