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Son won’t visit on Mothers Day

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Thegardenmum · 22/02/2023 16:38

Son lives with wife 2 hours away. Son is 30, she is 33.

His wifes mum died 3 years ago.

I sent a message to them both reminding them it is mothers day soon and could they come for a family meal on mothers day with my other 3 x adult DC.

Son messaged me privately and said he doesn’t want to make a big thing of mothers day as his wife may find the day upsetting. He doesn’t want to leave her home alone either. He will ring on the day, but not come down for celebration.

AIBU to be annoyed? Obviously sad that his wifes mum has died but why is he now not seeing his own mum?

OP posts:
TheHouseElf · 23/02/2023 14:25

MenopausalMe · 23/02/2023 14:17

OP very much posts as if it’s unthinkable that an adult child would not be with her on Mother’s Day so yes I did make an assumption based on that and her statement here

I sent a message to them both reminding them it is mothers day soon and could they come for a family meal on mothers day with my other 3 x adult DC.

But that's just your interpretation of what OP has written.

She put 'could' they come for a family meal. That's not demanding language, that simply her asking them.

ItchyBillco · 23/02/2023 14:25

I sent a message to them both reminding them it is mothers day soon and could they come for a family meal on mothers day with my other 3 x adult DC.

This wasn’t an invitation, it was a summons. She wouldn’t bee we angry otherwise.

TheHouseElf · 23/02/2023 14:20

DirectionToPerfection · 23/02/2023 14:10

She certainly posts as if her expectation is that "this is what you do" on Mother's Day.

If not, then why is she so annoyed with her son for declining?

Can't see where OP has specifically written that on any of her posts.

MenopausalMe · 23/02/2023 14:17

TheHouseElf · 23/02/2023 14:06

Assumptions yet again. No one knows if OP has asked them to do this every year.

OP very much posts as if it’s unthinkable that an adult child would not be with her on Mother’s Day so yes I did make an assumption based on that and her statement here

I sent a message to them both reminding them it is mothers day soon and could they come for a family meal on mothers day with my other 3 x adult DC.

DirectionToPerfection · 23/02/2023 14:10

TheHouseElf · 23/02/2023 14:06

Assumptions yet again. No one knows if OP has asked them to do this every year.

She certainly posts as if her expectation is that "this is what you do" on Mother's Day.

If not, then why is she so annoyed with her son for declining?

TheHouseElf · 23/02/2023 14:06

ItchyBillco · 23/02/2023 13:40

Doing a three line whip on your adult children to do Mother’s Day with you every year seems a bit controlling tbh

And therein, likely, lies the reason behind the son’s decision.

Assumptions yet again. No one knows if OP has asked them to do this every year.

ItchyBillco · 23/02/2023 13:40

Doing a three line whip on your adult children to do Mother’s Day with you every year seems a bit controlling tbh

And therein, likely, lies the reason behind the son’s decision.

MenopausalMe · 23/02/2023 13:38

Does she have children? If she does it’s her Mother’s Day as well

If she doesn’t are you very sure there’s no secret regret/anguish there as well making Mother’s Day additionally painful?

I didn’t get my FIL presents/cards for Father’s Day for 5 years after my dad died I just found it too painful (sadly my husband didn’t do bother to do anything for him either).

Doing a three line whip on your adult children to do Mother’s Day with you every year seems a bit controlling tbh

ItchyBillco · 23/02/2023 13:36

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:26

Haha what a pile of nonsense! Deary me. Stop making out men are so much better than us.

You don’t seem to be understanding what posters are saying.

You’re the one holding the DIL responsible for the son’s decision, based on nothing but because you’ve decided it’s what happened.

You’re the misogynist. You’re the one blaming women for a man’s behaviour.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 23/02/2023 13:31

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:25

Why do you think it’s unlikely that a man wants to support his wife, of his own volition?

Because to me, ‘supporting’ somebody by sacking off Mother’s Day 3 years down the line isn’t an obvious course of action. If I had a relationship with my mum, and DH’s mum died, I would probably stay home for the first Mother’s Day but not the second/third/fourth because I think it’s disproportionate and doesn’t balance supporting DH fairly against my relationship with my mum. What’s he going to do, never celebrate Mother’s Day again? How many years does this go on for?

OK, no, you’re still answering this as if the wife is forcing her husband not to go.

What I asked was why is it unlikely that he would want to ensure his wife wasn’t alone on this very difficult day for her. You’ve said it’s not an obvious course of action because if you were the wife, you wouldn’t want that to happen. That isn’t what was asked.

If your partner was suffering would it really be unlikely that you’d want to stay and be with them? Really?!

SerafinasGoose · 23/02/2023 13:30

DirectionToPerfection · 23/02/2023 13:28

Oh my God...

She never said anything of the sort.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong point, is it?

😂😂😂

BadNomad · 23/02/2023 13:29

Yeah I think that's just you. Maybe that's your interpretation because that is what you would do.

DirectionToPerfection · 23/02/2023 13:28

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:26

Haha what a pile of nonsense! Deary me. Stop making out men are so much better than us.

Oh my God...

She never said anything of the sort.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong point, is it?

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:28

ItchyBillco · 23/02/2023 13:25

So based on your own evidence-free conclusions you feel justified in vilifying the daughter in law?

Well, yes. I don’t need ‘evidence’, this is a discussion thread and I feel it’s most likely she requested he stay home because she’s being selfish in her grief. I could be wrong, but that’s my opinion.

FuzzyPenguin · 23/02/2023 13:27

Not read all the way through but I can’t believe how selfish you are being. It is still going to be so raw for your wife.

My DH’s mum died nearly 5 years ago and since that point we have avoided Mother’s Day. My mum understands and doesn’t expect to see me on the actual day but I do make sure I send flowers etc to her, plus my mum says she isn’t in the “active” mother role at the moment so it’s not like she needs the day off from running around after the kids, just to know we are thinking of her is enough.

BadNomad · 23/02/2023 13:26

I feel bad for Moonicorn's husband. Or maybe you. You know not everyone tells their husbands what to do right? Most don't need their wives to tell them to book MD dinner for their own mothers.

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:26

SerafinasGoose · 23/02/2023 13:21

Women are misogynists when they invent a scenario out of the clear blue sky blaming women for men's decisions when the OP hasn't said anything of the sort. Men are sentient, autonomous adults in their own right and are more than capable of making decisions for themselves.

'Independent thinking' doesn't extend to making this up.

You're welcome 😀

Haha what a pile of nonsense! Deary me. Stop making out men are so much better than us.

ItchyBillco · 23/02/2023 13:25

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:20

Because I think, on a balance of probabilities, it’s unlikely he thought he would stay home with his wife unless she said was struggling and wanted him there.

There is of course the possibility that he is using it as an excuse because he doesn’t want to go. Or that he came to that conclusion by himself without her suggesting anything.

But as judge Judy says in the absence of being there, I will go with what makes sense to me and seems the most likely thing to have happened.

So based on your own evidence-free conclusions you feel justified in vilifying the daughter in law?

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:25

Why do you think it’s unlikely that a man wants to support his wife, of his own volition?

Because to me, ‘supporting’ somebody by sacking off Mother’s Day 3 years down the line isn’t an obvious course of action. If I had a relationship with my mum, and DH’s mum died, I would probably stay home for the first Mother’s Day but not the second/third/fourth because I think it’s disproportionate and doesn’t balance supporting DH fairly against my relationship with my mum. What’s he going to do, never celebrate Mother’s Day again? How many years does this go on for?

DirectionToPerfection · 23/02/2023 13:24

fitzwilliamdarcy · 23/02/2023 13:22

Because I think, on a balance of probabilities, it’s unlikely he thought he would stay home with his wife unless she said was struggling and wanted him there.

Why though? Why do you think it’s unlikely that a man wants to support his wife, of his own volition? This is just such a bizarre way of thinking, to me.

Also, there's a massive difference between admitting she might struggle, and "banning" her husband from seeing his mum.

You're being ridiculous Moonicorn.

bigbabycooker · 23/02/2023 13:24

You have chosen to create a big Mother's Day event that will be centred around mothers.

Your DIL has decided not to come, which is understandable. There is no evidence that she has forced your DH to stay with her. The best response is to say "I'd really like it if you did something to mark mothers' day but it doesn't have to include DW if she isn't comfortable and/or it could be something together on another date."

Ultimately, do you care more about having your son do something for you willingly or forcing him to do the thing that you want?

ItchyBillco · 23/02/2023 13:23

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:18

Oh please. Blah blah misogyny. I think it’s very misogynistic to assume I only draw the conclusions I do because I’ve had my head filled with rubbish by men. Are women only independent thinkers when you approve of what they’re saying?

You’ve completely misunderstood what that poster was saying 🤦‍♀️

fitzwilliamdarcy · 23/02/2023 13:22

Because I think, on a balance of probabilities, it’s unlikely he thought he would stay home with his wife unless she said was struggling and wanted him there.

Why though? Why do you think it’s unlikely that a man wants to support his wife, of his own volition? This is just such a bizarre way of thinking, to me.

BadNomad · 23/02/2023 13:21

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:11

Fine but why does she need her husband to do the same 3 years later? And not see his own mum who will also be dead one day? I can understand the first Mother’s Day after, absolutely, but 3 years down the line is controlling and sounds a bit like emotional blackmail - like her grief entitles her to prevent him from enjoying anything she cannot have.

My mum was a ‘normal’ mum until I was 14, then she decided to leave my dad for an abusive relationship that I spent years trying to protect her from. Blah blah long and painful story but I haven’t seen her for a very very long time. Of course it hurts, seeing my friends with their lovely mums, or telling me about weekends away they’ve had with them etc. But I would never say so - because my sad story doesn’t entitle me to go around being ‘triggered’ and restricting what other people can or cannot do. I want more joy in the world. Not less of it.

Actually I messaged DH this morning suggesting he book an early meal for his mum because I’m due DC2 a few days after Mother’s Day!

But where does it say she told him he has to stay with her? Her not wanting to visit MIL is not her telling him not to. I'm sure he's big enough to decide for himself what to do.

SerafinasGoose · 23/02/2023 13:21

Moonicorn · 23/02/2023 13:18

Oh please. Blah blah misogyny. I think it’s very misogynistic to assume I only draw the conclusions I do because I’ve had my head filled with rubbish by men. Are women only independent thinkers when you approve of what they’re saying?

Women are misogynists when they invent a scenario out of the clear blue sky blaming women for men's decisions when the OP hasn't said anything of the sort. Men are sentient, autonomous adults in their own right and are more than capable of making decisions for themselves.

'Independent thinking' doesn't extend to making this up.

You're welcome 😀