....to think men are, sorry, but AWFUL

That's just bollocks. Plenty of women work night shifts.

Personally I favour getting men to have some kind of penis license. They'd have to prove they understand consent, the law relating to sexual harassment and assault, and why objectification is bad. Then they would be allowed out after dark.

Sort of like a citizen test or a driving license. Men who harassed or attacked women would have it revoked and have a tag fitted.

It would be lovely to have the same freedoms as men.

@GrinAndVomit what I'd say to OP is good on you for pressing ahead, don't expect the worst, you're a sensible person and as you say he's a lovely man (not really allowed to say he's a lovely man, the man haters will jump on you for that. Use the term good).

Enjoy your flourishing relationship!

Split from dh before Xmas under traumatic circumstances. He put me through hell for almost two decades. No way I wil have another relationship with a man.

If you are going to do it lets have the curfew and and do it properly. Not the two nights as above

But then when its been suggested before on here, its always gone down the route of the men will still have to do the night work and shifts.

Seems that the women that suggest it don't want to work that they would have to cover to make it work.

Oh good!

So, OP, I’d like to point out again, the fact that he stated that whenever he is in doubt, he always to chooses to trust and encouraged you to do the same.

Please just keep this in mind moving forward with this man. Do not let this be the start of gaslighting you into doubting yourself. Do not allow this to be a way for him to silence your questions.

I hope it was just a poorly delivered, innocent statement and I’m reading too much into it but please just be aware.

Good luck, OP x

@GrinAndVomit nothing wrong with discussing it, but don't question my thoughts.... which is what's happened on here.

I will not be silenced!

All men? Don't be ridiculous!

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Days when they are curfews for them

Jesus fucking Christ!

Everyone I read the news I ask myself why we don’t have men on some kind of electronic tag system. It’s horrific really and men do not care

And of course, women pointing out potential red flags?

What is your problem with women discussing their mistreatment and abuse at the hands of men?

When women have been treated so poorly in the past by men and have been abused, assaulted and cheated on- reading posts like “I have met a nice man” isn’t really helpful or encouraging.

Oh course it is, it's saying that there are nice men out there, lots of them.

It implies the woman who have not yet met a nice man are doing something wrong. That they are not preserving. That they are choosing the “wrong” men.

That's your way of thinking, it's not what's meant. Nobody can think for you though.

Nobody wants a slagging men off thread. It’s incredibly childish and defensive to even suggest that.
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This and many other threads are just that, those are the facts!*

Women are tired of being treated like shit by men. Society views women very differently to men. Statistically men are more likely to have a criminal record. Men are more likely to abuse. Men are more likely to murder.

That's true, but again a lot of men won't do any of that. Fact!

So of course some women are going to slag off men. Sorry if that offends you and all the great men in your life.

I don't really think you are, you just want every woman to feel like you do about men.

I know she did, I read the update...?

When women have been treated so poorly in the past by men and have been abused, assaulted and cheated on- reading posts like “I have met a nice man” isn’t really helpful or encouraging.

It implies the woman who have not yet met a nice man are doing something wrong. That they are not preserving. That they are choosing the “wrong” men.

Nobody wants a slagging men off thread. It’s incredibly childish and defensive to even suggest that.

Women are tired of being treated like shit by men. Society views women very differently to men. Statistically men are more likely to have a criminal record. Men are more likely to abuse. Men are more likely to murder.

So of course some women are going to slag off men. Sorry if that offends you and all the great men in your life.

Have a good weekend folks!

@5128gap

OP decided to give him a chance.

How many more times do I need to spell this out?

How many times do I have to spell out what I was saying.

To be fair, OP listed to the ones like me so have a think about that!

I don't agree at all.

The OP was saying that she had had some rubbish relationships with awful men BUT had met someone who seemed nice.

It is relevant for posters to come on and say that they have met a nice man and OP's new man might be nice too.

Some of the posters just wanted a slagging men off thread and got cross when it didn't go that way.

No one is saying we want a whole thread slagging off the bad ones.

Posters are saying that posts such as “My Nigel is one the good ones” or the similar ones - really don’t help. It adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.

I’ve said countless times before. People know not all men are awful. We 100% know that. The issue is, we don’t know which men are the awful ones.

Posters getting defensive and worked up by posting “Oh well my DH is lovely” “The men in my life are all great” “women are equally as bad” doesn’t help.

Now this isn’t me or anyone else trying to silence you. Or any woman.

We are just simply stating that posts like “not all men are awful” adds absolutely no value to the discussion and does not encourage women to give guys a chance when they have been treated so poorly in the past.

How many more times do I need to spell this out?

Pointing out that saying 'not my Nigel' isn't relevant or helpful isn't trying to silence anyone though is it? It's simply a comment on the percieved value of the comment.
If I were to go on to a thread about the cost of living crisis where the OP made the statement 'Times are really hard for people', for example, and posted 'Well not for me! I have more than enough money to pay my bills and have a couple of holidays lined up, so I disagree' Then I'm fairly certain I'd swiftly be told that my contribution added little of value to a discussion about financial hardship. But I wouldn't be being silenced unless I was reported and deleted.
Not seeing the value in a contribution is not the same as preventing a person from making it.

From someone who uses the term aloud instead of allowed, I believe I have a point!

Seems like a spelling one to me, but okay😂

There really is not point in trying to insult posters by their spelling/grammar. It’s just childish and enforces your complete hysteria.

Also, women twisting other women's words because they don't agree with them.

The whole not my Nigel just distracts from important conversation and adds nothing, so it's pointless waste of time.

Another one.

So don't mention the good ones, we just want a thread slagging the bad ones.

It's not a spelling error, it's grammatical, two completely and totally different meanings.

Yes I have.

Ok, if you say so.

HTH

I haven't got time to look but one of the posts a poster did say something like that the woman who have such good men in their lives must have low expectations.

Talking to us like we are stupid and are being manipulated by owe Husbands. The person who if I'm sad about something is the first person I think to talk to.

When all we were doing was telling the OP that not all men are awful.