....to think men are, sorry, but AWFUL

Total bastard..... are you ok?

Mine bloody made dinner tonight, walked the dog and cleared up.... I'd had a shite day at work... he is a bastard though!

How am I taking the piss out of people who have good men in their lives?

I also have good men in my life. But I don’t go round crying oh my DH would never do that, don’t tar all men with the same brush, I know some lovely men. Wah wah waaaah.

The point is, yes not all men are bastards
, it’s the fact that we don’t know which ones are bastards.

So yes, we will never agree because the measly comment of ”The men in my life wouldn't be friends with another male if they were mistreating a woman.”. Because you do not know that for certain! You don’t.

DH just said "You fancy a night away?". I looked at him and said "Don't be so fucking horrible, you fucking low life penis person".

Comprehension issues give over 😂😂😂

This “fellas” comment was 100% mansplaining. It wasn’t at all helpful or productive.

This isn’t about “all men are bastards”. We know not all men are bastards. We know that! The fact is, we don’t know which ones are bastards. We don’t know which ones are going to go on to abuse us. To harass us. To be unfaithful.

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain’s comment “This might come as a massive shock to some on here but a lot of women aren't perfect either” is typical mansplaining, condescending.

Like that’s useful to the discussion on how statistically it’s mostly men who harass women. It’s mostly men who financially abuse women. It’s men who inflict coercion, physical and sexual violence on women.

👏 👏

She clearly does have comprehension issues. The fact that she replied to me with blatant sexism seems to have gone over her head.

We will never agree.

The men in my life wouldn't be friends with another male if they were mistreating a woman. Infact only tonight my DH and our male friend were saying that a woman we know deserved better than her partner. They have said if to him too.

I actually think some women love the man hating gangs.

Don't take the piss out of us who have good men in our lives.

As for the "I'm so glad I'm a lesbian" women. Good for you. I'm never going down that road.

I'm sorry if some of you haven't found decent men. Perhaps you hung around the bad ones too long. Be strong and get rid of the shit ones and stop dwelling on it.

My DH is bloody lovely.
My ex DH was also a decent guy, but we just grew apart - no skeletons in his closet or any bad behaviour. Still friends now.

Not all men are shit.

Really? Of course my FACTS are really unhelpful and unproductive to you because they go directly against your agenda. "You have a penis therefore you're a bastard!!"

Good grief. 🙄

@FlissyPaps sorry I didn't realise you had comprehension issues.

That he has a point that women can be vile, that he was not mansplaining.

Maybe if he womansplained it would make it easier to you?

Could you womansplain to me what the issue was with his post?

And what point is that please?

@FlissyPaps BOOM I think he has a point! But it doesn't fit with the MN agenda of all men are bastards!

BOOM! I think your “facts” are classic mansplaining and really unhelpful and unproductive.

To all the posters who are clearly oblivious, stating unhelpful comments like: “My DH is lovely” “My male friends are great” “The men in my life would never cheat” “I am raising my sons to be great men”

Do you truly believe these men talk to their fellow men about male on women violence? Do you truly believe these men call out their friends when they are harassing and catcalling women? Do you truly believe that? Do you believe they are making a difference in society???

Because if they don’t have these important discussions and call out their fellow men on their bullshit and misogynistic behaviour then they are part of the problem.

The “Not All Men” narrative is so tiring.

BOOM! You don't like me expressing facts that don't fit your agenda?

I thank the dear Lord every day that I’m a lesbian! I seriously don’t know how straight women put up with some of this shit.
as friends men are much easier to deal with, I love my male friends, but there’s no way I’d want to be in a romantic relationship with them. They’re clueless half the time.

I hope this is sarcastic!

Well you wouldn't find it on MN, do you frequent male forums?

I've only defended my DH and DSs, I would never dream of coming on here (as I said in my first post) to just say they were great, the vipers would kill me.

I do know my DH talks about me positively in his work place, that's always been apparent from the few meetings I have had with his colleagues.

I only defend the ones who I have a relationship with because I know them. I also know they would defend me. DH, DS, DF other DB and my friends.

Men are truly blessed, that’s all I have to say.
I hope that for every one of these women defending and telling how wonderful the men in their lives are, there is a counterpart man telling how wonderful women are.
Personally, never seen that. And I hope one of the women at least will come and say that their husband/son defend women all the time. Please let me see that 🤞🏼
I want a little proof decent one’s can be real!

Classic mansplaining.

I know a few men who hold this opinion about women, even though the men themselves are scumbags who treated women awfully, which is why the women left them.

My ex (who treats women appallingly) told my son the only and most important advice he would give him about women is to never trust them!

He did this after his ex was caught talking to another man, however she had been totally devoted to him and obsessed with him until he put her through a lot of trauma.

Weirdly my ex actually told me he said that to my son, he has a serious lack of self awareness or even common sense awareness 😂he thought I'd be happy or something that he was saving my son from ever being hurt by a woman.

Luckily I could then speak to my son about what had happened and correct the disgusting and harmful misogyny.

My ex is a fantastic liar also and everyone believes everything he says, no doubt everyone thinks he's been unlucky with women even though he's abusive and an absolute nightmare!

Maybe the problem is that monogamy is not natural for human beings. Marriage especially. Its function is outdated. The original purpose of marriage was an economic one. Biologically men are programmed to stay with a women through childbirth and up until the child is two years of age to ensure a good chance of the child surviving. Think back to Stone Age times.

I had one who I adored. He promised me all the things I wanted/needed to hear. He broke my heart. I am still struggling after nearly 2 years to get over him. He to me, was the man I wanted forever, however he lied and never wanted the same. (Throw in infidelity, a few lies and some gaslighting).

"Women are like this too"

20% of men, on average, cheat on their spouse, compared to 13% of women

73% of crime is committed by male offenders

93% of murderers are men

96% of child molestors are men

Men are 3 times more likely to be in a road traffic accident than women

For every female character in a film, there are on average 2.24 men

90% of domestic abuse cases have the man as the abuser

91% of sexual assault victims are women

99% of sexual assault convicts are men