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Friend wants to stay on our couch for 3/4 weeks

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Feliciacat · 25/01/2023 00:45

Hi all.

Bit of a situation today; a friend has broken their ankle, torn their ankle ligaments and sprained the other ankle. They have my every sympathy for this, I’ve done similar in the past. They asked our friend group for lifts to the hospital and I’ve said I can only do it on weekends (their appointments will be on weekdays most likely) but to let me know if they need any help at all on evenings and weekends.

They’re now asking if he can stay on our couch for 3/4 weeks as he lives in a weirdly shaped flat with lots of stairs meaning he’d struggle to get to the bathroom. We have a ground floor bathroom.

My concerns are:

I don’t think we can give him the care he needs if he lives at ours. Work won’t let me or my partner flex if it’s just taking care of a friend. My partner is very busy with work and so am I and I’m usually in the office. I don’t think it’d be an appropriate environment for him as we’d have to practically ignore him during work hours. Plus, from a selfish point of view, it would be stressful for us as we couldn’t have people over and I need to finish my professional course by mid Feb. I do t know how we can manage looking after him.

This friend has asked me for many favours; lifts to vet appointments, every time I come over he has stuff for the tip for me to take and when he’s had parties he’s asked me for lifts to the supermarket (he has no access to a car and can’t drive due to disability). I have felt used.

I felt a lot more used after a friend of his offended me at a party (he said I was old and should get a move on with having kids and that I’d have at least one miscarriage). I said to my friend that if that person was at a party again then I didn’t want to come. I said I’d never make them choose sides but couldn’t face seeing that person again as he’d hurt my feelings so much (I cried every day for a week). My friend’s response was to say he wasn’t going to accommodate this and that I’d been over sensitive. His partner compared me to a really bitchy girl from her past in response to me trying to set this boundary!

This friend and his partner have been ignoring my messages ever since this exchange (2 months ago). That’s out of character. I think they didn’t like me as much and wanted to be less friendly with me because I said no to something for once. Now, they’re being friendly again. I feel awful about what’s happened but I suspect they’re using me again.

AIBU?

YABU: You should have him to stay and let bygones be bygones; he needs help.

YANBU: It’s a tough situation but despite this, you don’t have to let him stay.

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 25/01/2023 09:39

They asked our friend group for lifts to the hospital and I’ve said I can only do it on weekends (their appointments will be on weekdays most likely) but to let me know if they need any help at all on evenings and weekends.

Given his (& his g/f's!) response to you over the party friend's nastiness, how was it that you were STILL, 2 months later, pandering to this selfish tosser? Especially when they have been ignoring you since the party?

Do you know the nasty friend's name? If so - message back saying "I'm not going to accommodate this as you are being too sensitive, but I'm sure your good friend Kevin can help you."

If you can't manage that "We're not close enough friends to offer this, you haven't responded to my messages since your friend insulted me 2 months ago."

You don't have a friend problem, because this man is not your friend.
You have an assertiveness problem. You did well standing up for yourself about not wanting to encounter party friend again, but when user friend told you he was not going to respect your boundary - THAT was the time to realise how little value he puts on you, or your feelings, & stop chasing him for replies that didn't come.
So tell him NO, then order this -
www.amazon.co.uk/Woman-Your-Own-Right-Communication/dp/0715654543

stopringingme · 25/01/2023 09:32

@Feliciacat Please say no - it won't just be him freeloading it will be the girlfriend too and it will probably turn into longer than the 3-4 weeks as he will have his own personal butler.

Had he offered any contribution i.e. paying rent, for food, gas or electricity or did he expect you to subsidise him to.

He is not a friend you are just there when it is for his convenience.

LakeTiticaca · 25/01/2023 09:29

Hes a massive CF. The type of person who will take take take and give nothing back, ever.

I broke my ankle and had a cast on for 7 weeks. I shuffled upstairs on my backside, and shuffled back down again. Simple. I didn't need to camp on anyone's couch. Block him and walk away

NancyDrawed · 25/01/2023 09:21

Well done, OP. Don't let him guilt trip you into changing your mind.

From personal experience, I can tell you that the first 'No' when you'd usually say 'Yes' is the hardest one, but it does get easier!

WhereYouLeftIt · 25/01/2023 09:12

Feliciacat · 25/01/2023 01:09

Thank you for all your replies. I do have low self esteem and a difficult family background so I can go too deep in with friendships. This guy said he was my family and that he’d always be there for me. So I feel like I’m ditching a family member.

So a user AND manipulative?

TBH, I thought 'no' just reading the title of your thread, by the time I'd read just half of your OP it was 'fuck ,no!'.

"I felt so under pressure as they kind of portray themselves as really unfortunate people so I feel terrible saying no."
You're half-way there. You realise at some level that it is a portrayal, an exaggeration, a play for sympathy (which they then use to manipulate good people like yourself).

"He does have a family that he doesn’t get on with and his girlfriend’s family that they do get on with. Hopefully they can help."
Good chance that his family said no to ridiculous requests and he's in a huff. His girlfriend's family will learn to say no too, in time Smile. But they're not your responsibility, just like he isn't.

Well done for saying no to him. With luck they'll go in a huff with you and you'll never have to deal with this selfish self-absorbed pair of chancers ever again.

Whatthediddlyfeck · 25/01/2023 09:08

Well done on that message you sent! This is the first step to better self esteem…if he ghosts you, although that can be hurtful for you, you know the rubbish took itself out!

ItsNotReallyChaos · 25/01/2023 09:07

This guy said he was my family and that he’d always be there for me. So I feel like I’m ditching a family member.

He’s a manipulative arse and sounds like someone who is really quite unpleasant and happy to take whatever he can get from others.

Having a disability doesn’t give him license to use people.

MinnieGirl · 25/01/2023 09:06

Feliciacat · 25/01/2023 01:09

Thank you for all your replies. I do have low self esteem and a difficult family background so I can go too deep in with friendships. This guy said he was my family and that he’d always be there for me. So I feel like I’m ditching a family member.

But he wasn’t there for you was he? When his friend was nasty to you, and that was nasty, he wouldn’t call him out in his behaviour, wouldn’t keep you apart and his GF compared you to a bitchy school girl!

I would reply No you can’t use our sofa, that wouldn’t work for us. And then block him. You don’t need people like him in your life, he doesn’t bring anything to the table, he uses you and he doesn’t have your back. Get rid of him.

SillySausage81 · 25/01/2023 09:03

I was going to say yes, let him stay, until I read the backstory. They do sound like users. Let his partner help him out.

Fuwari · 25/01/2023 09:03

You sound like a lovely person and you deserve friends who appreciate that and treat you with the same kindness. Remember that going forward. I’m really glad you have found the courage to say no and if that is the end of the friendship, so be it. A true friend, well they wouldn’t ask in the first place but still, accepts a “no” with good grace. They don’t try and manipulate you or bulldoze you into getting what they want.

Dalekjastninerels · 25/01/2023 09:02

determinedtomakethiswork · 25/01/2023 08:59

Tell him no way and take great delight in his girlfriend having to empty his commode.

Or watch her wise up and realise what a l(user) he is.

OP

Please say strong; this person obviously has no shame; anyone else would find a way to manage.

determinedtomakethiswork · 25/01/2023 08:59

Tell him no way and take great delight in his girlfriend having to empty his commode.

Back2Back2t · 25/01/2023 08:57

OP why are you friends with this person? Just ewwww

Celinia · 25/01/2023 08:55

Yanbu to say no. It’s better for him to get a commode and stay in his own flat. His partner can look after him. Tbh from what you’ve said I don’t think this friend is much of a friend and maybe this is a good time to start creating distance?

Glorianna · 25/01/2023 08:54

So glad you said no!

He wasn’t just looking for a couch to sleep on, he wanted you to wait on him hand and foot for a month.

And I bet his girlfriend would have wanted to stay over too, on weekends etc

BobDear · 25/01/2023 08:53

Well done.

Enjoy that sense of relief you will have today :)

LumpyandBumps · 25/01/2023 08:50

Edders71 · 25/01/2023 07:41

“I am sorry but as I’m so old I’m spending all my spare time trying to get pregnant. I need the sofa free in case the mood takes me there and then. All the best xx”

😂

CelestiaNoctis · 25/01/2023 08:50

Let his girlfriend help him, he can buy a commode. Delete and block his number and find a better friend, he sounds like a horrible person.

ILoveYouMoreTheEnd · 25/01/2023 08:47

I'm so glad you are saying no and staying strong. He's not someone you need in your life. There are options for him through occupational therapy etc that will assist him with adaptations for his home. He's just a lazy shit who wants you to wipe his arse and be a maid. Know your worth ✨️ and keep strong 💪 x

Lalliella · 25/01/2023 08:44

You being scared of what his response is likely to be says everything about this friendship, which validates your reasons for saying no.

You sound lovely OP, I want to stay on your sofa! Those comments you had about having kids, I had that in the past, and it’s really hurtful 😢 YADNBU

Feliciacat · 25/01/2023 08:42

It has felt good to say no, you guys were right. I genuinely felt like I needed to give so much of myself to him because he said we were family. I think I need to come to terms with the fact I don’t have a family unit so that I can stop looking for inappropriate substitutes. I’m fine with me, my partner and my friends (friends, not substitute family). Might even have a child later this year too!

This thread has been a good example of tough love being just that; a kindness even though it’s hard to hear. Thank you all for your honesty xxx

OP posts:
Justmeandthedog1 · 25/01/2023 08:40

Feliciacat · 25/01/2023 01:09

Thank you for all your replies. I do have low self esteem and a difficult family background so I can go too deep in with friendships. This guy said he was my family and that he’d always be there for me. So I feel like I’m ditching a family member.

He said that because it suits him.
If he has a disability, claims a disability benefit, his GP can refer to an Occupational Therapist who’ll visit and provide equipment needed to help him.

Fluffygreenslippers · 25/01/2023 08:38

Fuck no.

ShimmeringShirts · 25/01/2023 08:37

Anyone that claims to be your family, particularly when you don’t feel overly close to them, are waving massive boundary crossing red flags. People that aren’t family who claim to be are usually trying to force an obligation on someone, so you feel obliged to care for him despite having very few ties to him. Do not let him stay, your life will be miserable and it’s likely he’ll find excuse after excuse to prolong his stay.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 25/01/2023 08:34

Well done with the message

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