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After school detention every time they're late...

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OhBitchPeas · 09/01/2023 08:21

Is that usual for secondary schools? If you're 2 mins or 2 hours late it's an after school detention every time.

Is that the usual? If

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Avrenim · 09/01/2023 20:57

I'm guessing the school isn't in the north west where the local transport companies seem to just make up the timetable as they go along and it isn't unheard of for a journey of 4 to 6 miles to take more than 2 hours by public transport....

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Notsa · 09/01/2023 20:47

My daughter's school gave them out for anything and everything. I refused for my daughter to do after school. It is not safe. They didn't challenge me on it.

Detentions for everything except bullying. That they couldn't give two shits about...

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LimeCheesecake · 09/01/2023 20:42

@Westernesse - when our dc started secondary, part of the welcome pack when we were asked to accept our offered place included the discipline policy and we were asked to sign something to say we’d read it and we agreed to send our dc to that school. (It isn’t a comp so slightly different).

when we looked round schools, we were told about discipline policies and guided to where they were on the school website. I really like that way of making sure everyone knows where they stand and what you agree to in advance.

for my dcs school, lateness without reasonable excuse (reasonable ones are like train didn’t move or bus was late etc) that will be a loss of part of break/lunch, for after school detentions, they get a warning and after 3 warnings in a week, a detention. The parent gets an email about each warning.

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Notsa · 09/01/2023 20:41

My daughter's school gave them out for anything and everything. I refused for my daughter to do after school. It is not safe. They didn't challenge me on it.

Detentions for everything except bullying. That they couldn't give two shits about.

Needless to say none of my other children went to that school.

lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:39

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Kennykenkencat · 09/01/2023 20:39

As someone who was regularly late for everything I probably wouldn’t have bothered going on.

In my brain

Being 2 minutes late = 1 hours detention

Going to be 2 minutes late = Free day to do as I pleased.

Notsa · 09/01/2023 20:39

My daughter's school gave them out for anything and everything. I refused for my daughter to do after school. It is not safe. They didn't challenge me on it.

Detentions for everything except bullying. That they couldn't give two shits about.

Needless to say none of my other children went to that secondary..

lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:38

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lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:38

@PollyEsther
No, lateness would lead to warnings etc and then potentially sacking.
School is an incredibly protected environment trying to prepare them for the real world.

I'll say it again: the vast majority of secondary kids get to school on time, day after day after day.
I agree with reasonable adjustments if there is a genuine issue,
If it is a case of just can't get organised to get there on time, make a choice: get better organised, or do the detention.

It isn't imposed, it is a choice. If you don't want to do the detention - get there on time. Like most students do.

Notsa · 09/01/2023 20:37

My daughter's school gave them out for anything and everything. I refused for my daughter to do after school. It is not safe. They didn't challenge me on it.

Detentions for everything except bullying. That they couldn't give two shits about.

Needless to say none of my other children went to that secondary..

Westernesse · 09/01/2023 20:35

lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:29

So when your kids start work, same thing? Can you not see that they need to take responsibility rather than you giving them a let out constantly? It is only getting to school on time: a basic skill. If they are being given a let out for that, how will they rise to far far harder challenges?

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Attending work is not mandated by law but is an adult responsibility. And it is paid.

if you are late for work you don’t get to be detained by your employer as a form of punishment.

while my kids are kids I will advocate for them and detention is a flat no.

PollyEsther · 09/01/2023 20:33

lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:29

So when your kids start work, same thing? Can you not see that they need to take responsibility rather than you giving them a let out constantly? It is only getting to school on time: a basic skill. If they are being given a let out for that, how will they rise to far far harder challenges?

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How many times have you been forcibly kept at work for an hour after your finish time for being 2 minutes late in?

Never happened? Shocker. Why are we OK with treating children this way when we wouldn’t accept it ourselves?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/01/2023 20:32

You wouldn’t normally drop off or pick up a secondary school aged kid though, the norm is that they’d make their own way and be responsible for timings.

PollyEsther · 09/01/2023 20:31

ADHDPI · 09/01/2023 20:21

I used to work with children from all kinds of disadvantaged backgrounds and a lot of the time they'd be late for school because their parents were useless and didn't give a shit. Would the child then be given detention if it was their parents who dropped them off and caused them to be late? Just put of curiosity... My son is still nursery age.

The short answer to this is yes.

All schools are really struggling these days, but the secondary sector is an absolute state. I’d much rather teach secondary than primary, but as a trainee I feel I’ve been forced down because I absolutely refuse to engage with this sort of culture.

lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:29

Westernesse · 09/01/2023 20:11

There will be none of this shit when my kids start at secondary school. My kids will be instructed not to comply with any form of detention without my or my wife’s agreement.

So when your kids start work, same thing? Can you not see that they need to take responsibility rather than you giving them a let out constantly? It is only getting to school on time: a basic skill. If they are being given a let out for that, how will they rise to far far harder challenges?

Westernesse · 09/01/2023 20:29

lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:26

The norm. To be honest, the start time of school doesn't change day to day, time keeping and getting somewhere on time is a pretty basic skill - as proven by the vast majority of students getting to school on time every day.

Yes, there may be reasonable adjustments made for some students for particular reasons but really, complaining about punishments for being late - just get there on time? Like most people have to for work?

No. A school does not get to “detain” my child as a form of punishment.

the answer is no.

lbnblbnb · 09/01/2023 20:26

The norm. To be honest, the start time of school doesn't change day to day, time keeping and getting somewhere on time is a pretty basic skill - as proven by the vast majority of students getting to school on time every day.

Yes, there may be reasonable adjustments made for some students for particular reasons but really, complaining about punishments for being late - just get there on time? Like most people have to for work?

BlackeyedSusan · 09/01/2023 20:25

3lates in a week mean detention. (that's for all lessons and mornings so 3/30)