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To think the new British Airways uniform (announced today) is awful?

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Waterandair · 06/01/2023 16:12

The options are either a jumpsuit all in one or what is basically a suit and skirt. The males are fine with their suit but us the girls have been screwed over. Myself and pretty much every other crew member I know think it’s awful, we’ve been told if we don’t agree to wear it then our contracts will be terminated. Nothing feminine about it. Your fine wearing the suit if your a man but us females will look so manly it’s terrible!

To think the new British Airways uniform (announced today) is awful?
To think the new British Airways uniform (announced today) is awful?
To think the new British Airways uniform (announced today) is awful?
To think the new British Airways uniform (announced today) is awful?
To think the new British Airways uniform (announced today) is awful?
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SoupDragon · 06/01/2023 19:44

Clymene · 06/01/2023 17:41

That striped one @SoupDragon? GrinGrinGrin

Yes 😂😂

mathanxiety · 06/01/2023 19:43

It's indeed ghastly, and a jumpsuit is the absolute last thing I personally would consider wearing on a plane.

It's stuffy, ugly, and impractical.

It's as bad as school uniforms.

Stressedmum2017 · 06/01/2023 19:39

Whaaaat I would be fuming! The mens is really nice, the womens options are all hideous. What on earth were they thinking? Must be someone who hates women.

norevelationhere · 06/01/2023 19:38

caravanbuckie · 06/01/2023 18:22

@marmiteislife

There should be an option for women to wear trousers if they want

There is.

My mistake! Just looked at the pictures and didn’t read it properly.

smileladiesplease · 06/01/2023 19:36

Beees!

That's it exactly isn't it

smileladiesplease · 06/01/2023 19:35

Jump suit lovely!!! When you need a wee!! Awful old fashioned and drab

AssumingDirectControl · 06/01/2023 19:34

They’re certainly ugly, but a lot of uniforms are ugly.

However the bigger issue is that they look rather impractical.

BungleandGeorge · 06/01/2023 19:26

notimagain · 06/01/2023 18:55

@BungleandGeorge

I think it’s great that they’ve included a hijab, the tunic and trousers would be suitable for all beliefs/ preferences for a more covered up look

FWIW (and somebody will please correct me I'm wrong) those sort of options already exist with the current uniform, so it's a continuation of the same policy.

I had to Google to find out what the current uniform is and there were no pictures of hijabs/ ‘modest’ dress. I don’t work for BA so no idea what choices staff are given but I do think it should be promoted and offered as a choice equal to the other choices, for all staff

Beees · 06/01/2023 19:21

smileladiesplease · 06/01/2023 19:18

How about they asked the cabin crew themselves to design a uniform. Men do the men's and women's do the women's! Vote on the most popular! Most popular wins. Mad I know

Nah that's far too logical. Grin

It would also mean they couldn't brag about the designer they used and detail the whole design process.

In hindsight it would be super sensible and produce a uniform which would be comfortable and practical and cost the company next to nothing.

Munches · 06/01/2023 19:21

fgswhywouldIdothat · 06/01/2023 18:47

Presumably jumpsuit is velcro split crotch to enable you to go for a wee in a tiny, grim plane toilet without getting undressed and letting your clothes fall onto the gross loo floor?

This is would hope too. Ex BA here and I wouldn’t like that purely on a practical level. I like the idea of trousers too ( wasn’t allowed them in my day).

HaddawayAndShite · 06/01/2023 19:19

It’s not cutting edge fashion but surely if you want to wear a decent outfit, air hostess isn’t a job you pick. The uniforms always look shite.

smileladiesplease · 06/01/2023 19:18

How about they asked the cabin crew themselves to design a uniform. Men do the men's and women's do the women's! Vote on the most popular! Most popular wins. Mad I know

Mezmer · 06/01/2023 19:17

I think they are lovely uniforms.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 06/01/2023 19:11

Or is it actually more restrictive, and sexist, than the press release is making it sound?

Considering there are four options for women (five if you include the hijab) and only one for men, it does indeed look quite sexist.

Jumpsuits are very popular in general (and it does say they're only initially for ground crew) as are other potentially impractical items like high heels; as long as nobody is forcing you to wear something, if you want to choose style/preference over practicality, what's the actual issue?

It's like when you go to a restaurant, there will undoubtedly be some options that you don't like - most people just instantly rule those options out without any drama and pick from the things that they do like.

Uniforms don't tend to be beautiful or stylish, but that's sort of the whole idea of them: nobody will be judging you on your own personal style when it's the same thing that everybody else working there is wearing as well.

I also don't get the complaints that they haven't asked every single employee. It's completely standard to have a representative focus group; do you really expect them to ask thousands of employees and hope to accommodate every single person's preferences?

You could always go and work in B&Q, where everybody has to wear a men's polo shirt and men's trousers and like it.

PumpkinDart · 06/01/2023 18:58

I'd probably go with the trousers, skinny fit and make the tailoring appointment offered so they fit well. Seems quite old fashioned designing especially the cravat things but agree with what a previous poster said, beats the Virgin uniforms 😬 to be honest I don't know anyone who has a work uniform who likes the design/ fit. Maybe it's worth you asking to be put forward to be a "uniform ambassador" so that you can be included in future consultations though.

Feelallright · 06/01/2023 18:57

I quite like it. The dress is nice. I like the red insert in the skirt. Not so keen on the skirt with the white shirt, but it’s fine with the jacket.

silverclock222 · 06/01/2023 18:55

Probably already been highlighted you missed out that woman can wear trousers too. Don't see any issue except men being given the option to wear skirts. Call me what you will :)

WhatWouldChristineCagneyDo · 06/01/2023 18:55

Suboptimalsitch · 06/01/2023 17:14

Who on earth designs a jumpsuit as cabin crew uniform?
Answer= A man who is never going to try to go to negotiate undoing it while not letting it touch a filthy toilet floor all within the confines of a broom cupboard.

It’s bloody ridiculous. So impractical and is going to look unflattering on many. It reminds me of when Ally Capellino revamped the Brownie uniform. His cullotes and the sash that attached to the waistband was utterly impractical and complicated and unflattering on many girls. I think the dress is the least awful OP. But the rest are pretty awful.

Ally Capellino is a woman.

notimagain · 06/01/2023 18:55

@BungleandGeorge

I think it’s great that they’ve included a hijab, the tunic and trousers would be suitable for all beliefs/ preferences for a more covered up look

FWIW (and somebody will please correct me I'm wrong) those sort of options already exist with the current uniform, so it's a continuation of the same policy.

SnuggleBuggleBoo · 06/01/2023 18:49

ShirleyPhallus · 06/01/2023 16:18

The skirts make you look like you’ve had some sort of ghastly period leakage with that red bit down the front

The jumpsuit has inexplicably been cut to make it look like the lady has a large gut. Very odd.

That's what I thought! The red slit up the front looks very odd.

fgswhywouldIdothat · 06/01/2023 18:47

Presumably jumpsuit is velcro split crotch to enable you to go for a wee in a tiny, grim plane toilet without getting undressed and letting your clothes fall onto the gross loo floor?

BungleandGeorge · 06/01/2023 18:47

In real life jumpsuits are really popular, not sure why all the negative comments. They’re only an issue to get off when the fastening is on the back and poorly designed. I’ve got loads of them and have no issue and don’t need any extra space to get out of them😆

FictionalCharacter · 06/01/2023 18:45

londonmummy1966 · 06/01/2023 18:12

THe tunic and slightly baggy trousers that are fitted at the ankle that you can see in the background of the video actually look quite nice, comfortable and forgiving so perhaps you should all opt for that version. (It is probably the least "designed" of all the outfits but I have to say that beyond the dire (lack of) design, the cut and fit of the women's clothes is terrible - probably what you would expect from a Saville Row tailor who has never learnt to fit a female form. The single button below the bust fastening means the jacket won't sit well on anyone.

Yes, that single button soft jacket is the opposite of smart, and really unflattering. It nearly always looks like it’s too tight and the boobs are spilling out.

BungleandGeorge · 06/01/2023 18:43

i can’t see anything much wrong with it, you’re never going to find a uniform that all the staff like style wise. What is wrong with it in practical terms? The skirt insert is more practical than a pencil skirt which always look really restrictive and impractical for cabin crew. I can’t see why you’d need to take the jumpsuit completely off to go to the loo anymore than you would trousers. And it looks like a long front fastening so not too difficult to get off. I’d personally have added a belt to the dress and jumpsuit or some elastic unless they’re going to actually tailor them. The dress and skirt are perfectly ‘feminine’. Personally I’d go for the jumpsuit as it’s practical and less ‘feminine’! I think it’s great that they’ve included a hijab, the tunic and trousers would be suitable for all beliefs/ preferences for a more covered up look

SnowlayRoundabout · 06/01/2023 18:42

ReviewingTheSituation · 06/01/2023 18:30

SO MANY posts about the impracticality of a jumpsuit in a plane toilet... which is very true, but
A- the jumpsuit is currently ground staff only
B- the jumpsuit is not compulsory. There is a choice of skirt, dress and 2 diffent cuts of trouser.

No uniform will suit/please everyone, but there are 4 different things to choose from - that's 4 times as many choices I had when I had a uniform for work.

I doubt that the jumpsuit will be popular with ground staff, either. Cubicles in the average airport ladies aren't a whole lot better for space than the ones on planes, and no-one wants to have to do that strip every time they have a wee anyway. So realistically it isn't a choice anyway.

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