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Christmas money - per child or not when someone has a big family ??

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Pontipinetree · 22/11/2022 19:45

Not sure what to do - usually gift nieces and nephews and godchildren some money each Christmas (have always done this per child). However one family is huge and getting bigger ! So where all the others have 2 or 3 children one family has a lot meaning we give £20 per child but it’s manageable when it’s £40 or £60 per family but then one family is getting into the hundreds so we thought this year with things a bit more difficult we would just do £50 for each ‘set’ of children in each family.
It’s got back to us that this isn’t fair that we’ve always done £20 per child and this is relied on especially so this year and I feel guilty.

If you give money do you do it per child or just per family ? It just seems a lot when one family is so big compared to the others ?

AIBU to change things to just a set amount for everyone ?

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Beautiful3 · 25/11/2022 16:59

I'm starting to think they're using your cash to pay for their Christmas expenses. Im not sure the chikdren are getting it. If I were you, I'd send each family, a box of chocolates and a game. If finances are limited, then a selection box per child.That is a lovely thoughtful present.

Stompythedinosaur · 24/11/2022 22:49

I would give the same amount to each dc.

But if the number of dc I was buying for got higher I would spilt the budget equally between them, so would reduce the amount each.

RoachPussy · 24/11/2022 22:23

user1471538283 · 24/11/2022 08:03

Knock this right on the head. I was an only child, my aunts had lots of children and it was too expensive. So my DF said he would get a big tin of chocolates for each family.

No one relies on gifts.

On the unpopular Christmas opinions someone replied to my comment about cash being a cop out gift saying that they were annoyed with their PIL because they stopped giving cash and started buying gifts. They used to use it towards the car service and MOT in January and that £££ was part of the budgeting.

Bleachmycloths · 24/11/2022 20:44

Itisbetter · 24/11/2022 14:27

@Bleachmycloths couldn’t you see it was on a par with “haven’t you got a TV?”. Fuckwittage is still fuckwittage even when you present it as an oh so funny little “joke”.

🙄🙄🙄

RememberedForAllTheWrongReasons · 24/11/2022 18:36

Whattodo182 · 22/11/2022 19:49

My mum does the same. In fact. She doesn't even gift it to the grandchildren. She gives each of us a fixed amount to spend on the children. So if there's one child or 6, it's the same amount and we spend it how we like. Its never been a problem

It’s not a problem for the family that has an only child but why should 2/3 or even 4 siblings get less spent on them each?

I think all children should receive equal, my DN’s shouldn’t get less each because only one of my IVF cycles was successful.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/11/2022 18:31

That chopped off what I wrote?! It was meant to say:

Give a much as you can afford. But I would give the same to all the children - so do you pot and divide them by the nieces and nephews rather than by family. It's presents to them, and they shouldn't be punished for having siblings.

That seems fair after a fashion, but they are still being punished for having siblings - it's just that all of the cousins are punished. Aside from the fact that, if they already believe themselves to be 'entitled', they/their parents might question why they got less - and then that puts the 'blame' on their new baby siblings (who never asked to be born), it can be easier said than done to reduce it accordingly: If there were previously X children altogether, and then another is born, you might end up with a very strange - and obviously down-adjusted - amount if you split the previous budget fairly. "Look, aren't Aunty Sue & Uncle Mike kind - they've put £16.83 in cash in your card!"

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/11/2022 18:30

Give a much as you can afford. But I would give the same to all the children - so do you pot and divide them by the nieces and nephews rather than by family. It's presents to them, and they shouldn't be punished for having siblings.

That seems fair after a fashion, but they are still being punished for having siblings - it's just that all of the cousins are punished. Aside from the fact that, if they are

Mari9999 · 24/11/2022 18:25

I would give a gift card .of the same value to each family for the children. It would not depend upon the number of children. You are giving a gift not meeting a financial obligation. I might add a box of chocolates or a large box of holiday sweets to go along with the gift cards.

When gifts get to be an entitlement or an obligation , you have truly lost the spirit of the holiday.

Itisbetter · 24/11/2022 14:27

@Bleachmycloths couldn’t you see it was on a par with “haven’t you got a TV?”. Fuckwittage is still fuckwittage even when you present it as an oh so funny little “joke”.

Mamma80 · 24/11/2022 14:23

You do what you can afford, but id divide the whole lot by the total children, as a child that was treated differently because of 4 siblings and constantly left out of family events because there was more of us I can tell you it sucks.

We used to watch all our cousins and aunts and uncles go on holiday together and not be invited because there was too many of us. Its shite and nothing the child has done.

Presents and amounts is always guaranteed to piss people off!!

Fleurdaisy · 24/11/2022 14:21

People expecting gifts is awful. What a way to bring up your children.
A gift per family is gone and very generous. I’d be tempted to send them a card with x number of trees have been planted in your name written inside.

EndlessRain · 24/11/2022 14:20

Give a much as you can afford. But I would give the same to all the children - so do you pot and divide them by the nieces and nephews rather than by family. It's presents to them, and they shouldn't be punished for having siblings.

Blip · 24/11/2022 14:14

Nieces and nephews should all get the same as each other so you could reduce the amount for everyone.

Godchildren I think you can treat differently if you want to.

Onebyone987 · 24/11/2022 12:45

My nieces and nephews are family/humans in their own right and treated as individuals.

I don’t set a budget per child as within reason I want to get them all something that they’ll be happy when they open but that doesn’t necessarily mean expensive or equal cost.

My thoughts on your situation:

The youngest few of the eight (presuming there’s young kids as this seems like a recent issue) is probably drowning in handy down toys/clothes/books or too young to really realise what gift giving is about. They’d get a small wrapped stocking filler.

The primary age kids would be given a craft type activity kit that’s personal to them but also inexpensive.

Secondary age kids would be given a voucher/cash for £20 (if their parents are hard up they probably don’t get pocket money/get new things/their own things).

It’s not the kids fault their parents decided to have so many kids and they’re already missing out compared to their peers. A box of quality street and a board game isn’t thoughtful and they’ll know that they don’t mean much to you. But then again, lots of uncle/aunts don’t particularly care for their nieces/nephews but don’t be surprised if you’re not invited to their weddings/loose contact once they fly the nest.

OhmygodDont · 24/11/2022 12:16

I’d stop with the cash I reckon the kids not getting it.

Go to the works 10 books for £10, 10 selection boxes and a board game or two for the entire family. Maybe a tub of chocolates and a bottle of wine for mum and dad.

switch it up every couple of years, so next next it’s a huge crafts bundle of bits picked up thought the year, a baking bundle to make cakes etc so it’s almost more family experiences as gifts.

You can do the same kinda thing with the other family groups too. It’s harder to tell how much people have spent then too.

TwoBlueFish · 24/11/2022 11:48

I would do a family gift, maybe a game and some chocolates? Or reduce the amount per child and give them all the same.

VickyEadieofThigh · 24/11/2022 11:45

I think this year is the perfect time to change your custom.

I'm with the 'board game and box of Quality St per family' team.

Lord knows how you work it for birthdays, mind!

lieselotte · 24/11/2022 11:22

For their cheek, I'd give them a six-pack bag of Aldi crisps and tell them it's a jigsaw of a potato

Brilliant!

EIGHT children! Blimey.

To be honest though I think I probably would budget per family not per child. So if you are budgeting £60 for the family with three kids, I'd spend that on the bigger family too. Probably best to buy something for the family like biscuits and chocolates rather than give the money to the parents to disappear into the general household pot.

(the two kids in the two kid family can still get £20 each)

To be honest, even if the family with soon-to-be 8 kids only had 3, you'd still have a lot of kids to buy for.

Bleachmycloths · 24/11/2022 11:15

Itisbetter · 24/11/2022 10:50

@Bleachmycloths awe was the awkward woman pointing out arseholeary and ruining your fun? Do you preface your “jokes” with “no offence but…”?

grow up

Couldn’t you see that her suggestion of condoms was not serious????

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/11/2022 10:54

My Dad gave money gifts last year. He has three daughters. I'm the only one with kids. Let's say he gave my sisters £300 each and me £200 and then each of my children £50. He's doing the same amount per daughter or household but doesn't give the £300 to me he puts the kids money in their hands or account so they know he gave them that gift and it's to be used for them.

That sounds fair to me, and is broadly in line with how many people would write/intend their wills - leaving equal amounts to each of their children's families (whether dividing it themselves by the individual members or leaving the whole family share to their child and expecting that their GC would also benefit).

That said, however, it's a different dynamic when it's money given directly downwards (parent to child to grandchild) rather than across (sibling to sibling or niece/nephew) - and also the numbers of people involved: if it's (soon) a family of 10, then there are only two adults to 'take' from and redistribute their share to 8 children, which doesn't necessarily stretch that far!

Itisbetter · 24/11/2022 10:50

@Bleachmycloths awe was the awkward woman pointing out arseholeary and ruining your fun? Do you preface your “jokes” with “no offence but…”?

grow up

Bleachmycloths · 24/11/2022 10:47

Itisbetter · 24/11/2022 09:41

Or maybe a pack of condoms for the parents wrapped in Christmas paper...... seriously WHY do you think commenting on their choice of family size is appropriate? Do you give jokey little fertility herbs to childless people?

Please lighten up! 🤣

Bleachmycloths · 24/11/2022 10:45

It’s MIL’s fault. She should have kept their complaint to herself.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/11/2022 10:45

seriously WHY do you think commenting on their choice of family size is appropriate? Do you give jokey little fertility herbs to childless people?

I think a lot of it hangs on the meaning and reality of the phrase 'rely on', as used by MIL. If they are genuinely so poor that they depend on Christmas gifts from others (does this mean that the children don't get other presents from their parents or that the parents use those £20s to buy all/most of the gifts their kids will get - we don't have the full story?), then it was very irresponsible to have 8 children (assuming they've now stopped there).

8 is an extreme choice of family size, IF it is the case that they can't really afford them. It's not at all the same as infertility, where people are desperate for one or two children. If somebody with 6 children were inconsolable about being able to have more children - or a 65yo grandmother upset that her children were now all grown up and she couldn't have any more of her own - they would have every right to feel that way, but I don't think they'd get much sympathy from most people.

ryantubridysthumb · 24/11/2022 10:44

They're taking the piss with 7 kids. I get my 4 nieces and nephews a 100 pound voucher for the cinema.