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What to do with male neighbour

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Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 12:58

I'm 30 l live alone in a small terraced house. I've been living here for one year. Next door to me lives a man in his late 50s. We have nothing in common. We would say hello the odd time but thats it. The houses don't open right onto the street. We have a very small front garden, walls and gate each.

My front garden is very small, it's not something you would sit in. So I am only ever in it to mow my small lawn, paint the small walls etc.

Any time that I am EVER in my front garden, my male neighbour will come over right to my walk, to talk to me.

Last time I was mowing my lawn, he came out of his house, came over to my walk and started talking to me about something.

Today, I was painting my small wall in my front garden. He came over right to my walk and said "hey! I'm expecting a package. Will you take it in. They said they'd leave it with a neighbour".

I didn't want to but I said yes even though I didnt want to, as I was nervous and trying to get him to go away. He will probably be over to me later looking for it, which causes more stress for me.

I'm starting to be nervous every time I go out in my front garden, I kind of dash in and out as I know he will be straight over. He is creeping me out. I literally cannot go in my garden and do one simple thing without him coming straight over. It's giving me anxiety. If I saw my female neighbour across the road doing gardening, I wouldn't go straight over , lean over her wall and start talking to her. I know I would be intruding on her privacy. He does it every single time. It's really giving me anxiety. I don't know what to do.

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Theglowofcandles · 10/11/2022 18:42

@Deemarie11 I really feel for you because I have been in this situation and it was horrible. I was like you, checking for him before i left my house. His behaviour escalated to him removing the 6ft fence between our back gardens, knocking on my door then smashing up his house when i ignored him. (Next door, thin walls) It turned out he was a registered sex offender & a danger to women. He eventually moved away and it was 1 of the happiest days of my life. I didn't find out he was a sex offender until after he moved away. He made me so anxious & uncomfortable.

When it was me, to be honest, I just stopped using my garden and if I had to mow the lawn I always tried to get a friend or family member to come down and sit in garden with me. I ignored him as much as I could and stopped using the garden where he moved the fence. I made it as obvious as I could that I did not want to talk to him. I would pretend to be on the phone if he tried to talk to me. I also only mowed the lawn when his car would be away and when I seen him coming back I would go in my house until he was in his. For me, moving wasn't an option but if it was, I would of moved. I was scared of him and I was even more scared of the people he associated with so I genuinely felt stuck in that situation. Sorry you are going through it.

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 18:42

The thing is aswell. He asked me to take a package in for him as he would be away all day. He drove away.

I was still in my garden painting.

He then drove back to his house 30 minutes later and went in. So he was available to receive the package in his house.

So it was a completely made up thing to talk to me.

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Cantthinkofausername01 · 10/11/2022 18:37

I think you need to get a grip

These men bashing threads are getting boring. Poor bloke is probably lonely and just wants someone to speak to. I can almost guarentee he cant read your mind. So unless you tell him you dont want to talk then how is he supposed to know? Saying he fancies you is jumping the gun abit unless he's actually told you that?

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 18:36

JinglingXmasbells · 10/11/2022 17:57

@stuntbubbles Maybe the age change is that a 30 year old sounds more vulnerable than a 38 year old, but TBH we don't know how old @Deemarie11 is!
She could ne 28, 30, 38, 48!

I am in my thirties. I usually just change my age slightly,just in case any of my neighbours/acquaintances are on Mumsnet! So itd be harder for them to know it is me. So many people are on Mumsnet! I'm closer to 30 then 38.
Anyway i am in my thirties.

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TheLadyOfHay · 10/11/2022 18:36

Another suggestion. Always have your keys ready to open your front door when you get home. 1, less time for NDN to pop out 'for a chat' and 2, you can get into your house quickly if he is hanging around outside.

I chat to my neighbours and am happy to do so but will say firmly, must go, shopping to unpack/expecting a phone call/mustn't keep you hanging around in the cold. They are all great and similar to me but I have in the past had a troublesome neighbour. It was hellish so I do sympathise, they can be very thick-skinned!

Dreamwhisper · 10/11/2022 18:33

stuntbubbles · 10/11/2022 17:39

Look, I’ve got lovely neighbours: one’s downstairs in my house right now, fixing my leaky dishwasher. I trust him enough that I’m in bed and have just woken from a nap; he’s got a key to come in and out with plumbing parts. My trust is nothing to do with the fact he’s my neighbour, it’s just a nice bonus he’s a nice neighbour. There’s literally no reason on earth why the random selection of people around you in neighbouring houses should all be liked and trusted: great when you get on and can hold each other’s spare keys, take in parcels, look out for each other. Hell on earth when they’re intent on harassing you, as with OP’s neighbour.

Everyone has to live next door to someone: Fred West and Ian Huntley and Harold Shipman were all people’s neighbours! “Neighbour” isn’t code for “what a brilliant human”. In the case of OP’s neighbour, he’s obviously a bullying twat targeting her as she lives alone.

Stop gaslighting her with “what a shame” and calling her weird. And as for having different details in different threads, don’t we all do that to avoid being outed? If you search me, my DC change in number and gender on a daily basis.

I do this too. These days I've become lackadaisical but usually I try and change details and I especially change details if I write about anything even vaguely work related.

Alwaystheplusone · 10/11/2022 18:19

CustardySergeant · 10/11/2022 17:37

What is it that's vile about this couple? Is it that they try to talk to you, or something else that makes them vile, in your opinion?

They have two children who they mistreat in public but that wasn’t the point of my post 🙄

unname · 10/11/2022 18:15

I wouldn’t take in the package. If he asks just tell him you forgot/went out/fell asleep.

I’d also keep the phone handy and pretend it just rang when he walks over. Wave it at him; “sorry, I have to take this” then go inside.

Also “sorry, I’m working and have to finish this up quickly so I can’t chat. Have a good day.”

Eventually he will leave you alone. It’s not easy, but you can usually find a way to put people off without coming across as unfriendly. I still smile and wave, but am always too busy to talk.

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 18:14

Cue, lots of young single men having similar experiences with creepy, intimidating, overbearing older women? Hmm
Maybe not.

MysteryBelle · 10/11/2022 18:13

RestlessMillennial · 10/11/2022 18:11

Can you get fences that are taller or with trellis so he can't overlook. Then ignore any contact.
Ultimately you will be happier in a property that is not overlooked I think.
Good on you for owning a house at 30! I'm 29 and this is a distant dream for me...

This is a good idea too, along with camera that records.

RestlessMillennial · 10/11/2022 18:11

Can you get fences that are taller or with trellis so he can't overlook. Then ignore any contact.
Ultimately you will be happier in a property that is not overlooked I think.
Good on you for owning a house at 30! I'm 29 and this is a distant dream for me...

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 18:06

This type of thing only ever happens to single women.
Isn't that strange?

greenshirt06 · 10/11/2022 18:03

YANBU. Majority of people who are voting YABU probably haven't lived alone. It can be frightening living alone and having neighbours like this. Agree with the headphone approach! Keep yourself to yourself, avoid eye contact etc or be on the phone x

JinglingXmasbells · 10/11/2022 18:00

@Deemarie11 How often does this occur?
I did post a tongue in cheek post about getting rid of your lawn and not needing to do so much gardening now it's November....

but, being serious, is this once a week? Once a month? Not recently as it's dark now by 5pm?

Have you thought of talking to neighbours on the other side of you about this?

They may know him better as you have only been there for a year.

JinglingXmasbells · 10/11/2022 17:57

@stuntbubbles Maybe the age change is that a 30 year old sounds more vulnerable than a 38 year old, but TBH we don't know how old @Deemarie11 is!
She could ne 28, 30, 38, 48!

IWishICouldDance · 10/11/2022 17:54

He sounds lonely to be honest, probably just wants a chat. You sound quite uptight, if you don't want to talk to him you could politely say "not got time to chat, sorry". I don't think he's doing anything wrong as such. Taking parcels for neighbours isn't exactly a great hardship. Maybe move to London I hear they are rude and don't like to chat.

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 17:51

stuntbubbles · 10/11/2022 17:39

Look, I’ve got lovely neighbours: one’s downstairs in my house right now, fixing my leaky dishwasher. I trust him enough that I’m in bed and have just woken from a nap; he’s got a key to come in and out with plumbing parts. My trust is nothing to do with the fact he’s my neighbour, it’s just a nice bonus he’s a nice neighbour. There’s literally no reason on earth why the random selection of people around you in neighbouring houses should all be liked and trusted: great when you get on and can hold each other’s spare keys, take in parcels, look out for each other. Hell on earth when they’re intent on harassing you, as with OP’s neighbour.

Everyone has to live next door to someone: Fred West and Ian Huntley and Harold Shipman were all people’s neighbours! “Neighbour” isn’t code for “what a brilliant human”. In the case of OP’s neighbour, he’s obviously a bullying twat targeting her as she lives alone.

Stop gaslighting her with “what a shame” and calling her weird. And as for having different details in different threads, don’t we all do that to avoid being outed? If you search me, my DC change in number and gender on a daily basis.

Thank you, yes I did give different ages in different threads, as I try not to give any very identifying details on here.

What I'm saying is happening to me, but I usually change my age, location, any very identifying things.

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BeetBoxer · 10/11/2022 17:50

I do think people are good at picking up sexual interest. So, if you think he's being creepy, I wouldn't ignore that feeling.

I am generally a people pleaser, but in your situation, I would probably tell him point blank that I don't want to talk / want space when I'm in my garden.

Being neighbourly goes both ways. He is not respecting your privacy. You don't owe him a conversation every time you see him.

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 17:45

@Dreamwhisper I was talking about neighbours.
The kind of things the OP is experiencing only ever happened to me when I was living on my own. Never ever ever ever happened when I was living with a BF. Funny that.

Howdoyoulikeyourtea · 10/11/2022 17:43

All the pp saying he’s just being friendly etc, have you never met someone who sets off your stay away senses? Who creeps you out? Who makes you feel really uncomfortable? That’s what I get OP as describing. It may look like friendliness but there’s something about him that scares her. That doesn’t mean she is weird or unfriendly, it means she has awareness telling her to be wary.

OP I agree with previous pps, get a ring doorbell, talk to the other neighbours if you see them and try to make excuses to leave if he comes out to talk to you. Make sure the doorbell ( or cctv) covers where he stands so it can be used as evidence if you need to take it further.

ilovesushi · 10/11/2022 17:41

He sounds awful. Do you feel unsafe or that he has the potential to escalate his behaviour or become dangerous? His actions do not sound like someone who is bored or lonely looking for a neighbourly chat, it sounds more predatory to me. Sorry you are in the horrible situation feeling under threat in your own home!

getoutoftown · 10/11/2022 17:40

Hopefully you won't need to be in your front garden too much in the winter months if the painting is done, lawn doesn't need mowing, plants are dormant etc so he'll have fewer opportunities to manufacture an encounter. In the meantime get your strategy in place.

Also, front of terraces is fairly public and others may have noticed what he's doing. It would be worse if he was harassing you in the back garden! You don't want to mix and that's fine but it's worth making allies of other nice neighbours.

stuntbubbles · 10/11/2022 17:39

Look, I’ve got lovely neighbours: one’s downstairs in my house right now, fixing my leaky dishwasher. I trust him enough that I’m in bed and have just woken from a nap; he’s got a key to come in and out with plumbing parts. My trust is nothing to do with the fact he’s my neighbour, it’s just a nice bonus he’s a nice neighbour. There’s literally no reason on earth why the random selection of people around you in neighbouring houses should all be liked and trusted: great when you get on and can hold each other’s spare keys, take in parcels, look out for each other. Hell on earth when they’re intent on harassing you, as with OP’s neighbour.

Everyone has to live next door to someone: Fred West and Ian Huntley and Harold Shipman were all people’s neighbours! “Neighbour” isn’t code for “what a brilliant human”. In the case of OP’s neighbour, he’s obviously a bullying twat targeting her as she lives alone.

Stop gaslighting her with “what a shame” and calling her weird. And as for having different details in different threads, don’t we all do that to avoid being outed? If you search me, my DC change in number and gender on a daily basis.

CustardySergeant · 10/11/2022 17:37

Alwaystheplusone · 10/11/2022 14:25

There is a vile couple near me who will cross the road to try make small talk. I now always go out wearing air pods and whenever one of them approaches, I point to my ears and mouth that I’m on a call. Does the trick every single time.

What is it that's vile about this couple? Is it that they try to talk to you, or something else that makes them vile, in your opinion?

purfectpuss · 10/11/2022 17:33

Lovemusic33 · 10/11/2022 17:25

I think I’m totally missing something here.

My neighbours always talk to me if I am out the front, sometimes they will walk over and say hello 😱. I often take parcels for people, they then come and collect them, most of them are male and I am a single female. I have never felt creeped out about it, people are just friendly and occasionally a bit nosey. I think it’s sad that many people don’t know the people that live on their road or even the people next door. Growing up in a village everyone knew each other and the neighbours came over for drinks etc.., when did it become creepy to talk to a neighbour?

Exactly