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What to do with male neighbour

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Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 12:58

I'm 30 l live alone in a small terraced house. I've been living here for one year. Next door to me lives a man in his late 50s. We have nothing in common. We would say hello the odd time but thats it. The houses don't open right onto the street. We have a very small front garden, walls and gate each.

My front garden is very small, it's not something you would sit in. So I am only ever in it to mow my small lawn, paint the small walls etc.

Any time that I am EVER in my front garden, my male neighbour will come over right to my walk, to talk to me.

Last time I was mowing my lawn, he came out of his house, came over to my walk and started talking to me about something.

Today, I was painting my small wall in my front garden. He came over right to my walk and said "hey! I'm expecting a package. Will you take it in. They said they'd leave it with a neighbour".

I didn't want to but I said yes even though I didnt want to, as I was nervous and trying to get him to go away. He will probably be over to me later looking for it, which causes more stress for me.

I'm starting to be nervous every time I go out in my front garden, I kind of dash in and out as I know he will be straight over. He is creeping me out. I literally cannot go in my garden and do one simple thing without him coming straight over. It's giving me anxiety. If I saw my female neighbour across the road doing gardening, I wouldn't go straight over , lean over her wall and start talking to her. I know I would be intruding on her privacy. He does it every single time. It's really giving me anxiety. I don't know what to do.

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Yepy · 10/11/2022 19:58

Have to say my ds used to feel very much like you Deemarie11 friendly to him was creepy and intrusive. He does not trust people and would prefer to be left alone though he has good friends locally and further away he is just very wary and selective in who he is pally with, and this especially applies to neighbours. he values his privacy. If you move you’re not guaranteed to get neighbours like your friend and even if you did, neighbours can move without a word of warning.

ShippingForecastMeditator · 10/11/2022 19:29

I have exactly the same thing OP, except it's my neighbour two doors down.

I have a gravel driveway and he keeps his front door open (directly into his front room) so he can hear when I drive in. Its so horrible. I have to run into the house to get away from him and repeat in reverse in the mornings (he listen's out for the sound of me unlocking the car). We're very close to town but I have to walk around the long way to avoid going past his house. He can talk for hours.

And yes, I have tried being directly rude to him (and completely blanking him) but I think he likes it and sees it as a challenge.

I plan to move in the spring and he's the main reason.

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 19:15

Kiplingroad · 10/11/2022 19:07

Actually @OneTC it's his position that isn't the standard one.

Most neighbours give each other space, privacy and peace. Read between the lines, work out who wants chat and who doesn't and proceed from that.

His position of overengaging with her at every opportunity is very odd and disturbing, given that all she wants to do is a bit of gardening.

Thank you!

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Fightingbackwithhappiness · 10/11/2022 19:14

@Deemarie11 I totally hear you. You are not being unreasonable. I would get the property up for sale asap. Do you Carry a rape alarm or have you ever studied self defence? Might seem OTT but I would always air on the side of caution.
so sorry that you can’t relax in your own garden.

purfectpuss · 10/11/2022 19:14

PurpleButterflyWings · 10/11/2022 18:58

Oh YAWWWWNNNNNNN. 😩 What a pathetic, tedious, and predictable response. Do grow up. 🙄 Nobody has to open the door to ANYone they are not expecting. No matter how entitled and demanding that person is. And how insistent they are that they come in, despite not being invited, and totally intruding on that person's time, and their day.

Not to mention the fact they are very likely in the middle of something/busy/on the way out. People like you are the reason many people DON'T answer the door to randoms turning up uninvited! Entitled much?! I am guessing you're projecting, and are a 'popper inner' and have had people turn you away or not answer the door. And are secretly peeved. Wink

Point proven I think!

I don't call in on anyone and expect to be invited in, nor do have randoms knocking on my door expecting to come in. I do however answer the door if someone knocks- sometimes it's the neighbour asking for a bit of help with her internet, sometimes it's the gardener coming to collect his money, sometimes it's a kid asking to get the ball they kicked over the fence, sometimes it's someone collecting for charity, sometimes it's a friend dropping off a gift, sometimes it's a parcel delivery, etc. Yet I've seen plenty of posters saying they ignore all knocks on their door- which is odd to me!

PurpleButterflyWings · 10/11/2022 19:10

Cantthinkofausername01 · 10/11/2022 18:37

I think you need to get a grip

These men bashing threads are getting boring. Poor bloke is probably lonely and just wants someone to speak to. I can almost guarentee he cant read your mind. So unless you tell him you dont want to talk then how is he supposed to know? Saying he fancies you is jumping the gun abit unless he's actually told you that?

Fucking hell! 😂

Kiplingroad · 10/11/2022 19:07

Actually @OneTC it's his position that isn't the standard one.

Most neighbours give each other space, privacy and peace. Read between the lines, work out who wants chat and who doesn't and proceed from that.

His position of overengaging with her at every opportunity is very odd and disturbing, given that all she wants to do is a bit of gardening.

PurpleButterflyWings · 10/11/2022 19:07

Howdoyoulikeyourtea · 10/11/2022 17:43

All the pp saying he’s just being friendly etc, have you never met someone who sets off your stay away senses? Who creeps you out? Who makes you feel really uncomfortable? That’s what I get OP as describing. It may look like friendliness but there’s something about him that scares her. That doesn’t mean she is weird or unfriendly, it means she has awareness telling her to be wary.

OP I agree with previous pps, get a ring doorbell, talk to the other neighbours if you see them and try to make excuses to leave if he comes out to talk to you. Make sure the doorbell ( or cctv) covers where he stands so it can be used as evidence if you need to take it further.

Exactly this. ^ ALWAYS trust your senses and instincts. If the OP feels something is 'off,' and quite weird about this man, she is probably not wrong.

You sure can tell the women on here who have never been hounded and harassed by a weird and creepy man who won't leave them alone! Don't assume because it's never happened to YOU that it doesn't happen to other women. Hmm

The OP is stressed and upset about this man badgering her ... STOP fucking minimising her fears and worries! Angry

carefulcalculator · 10/11/2022 19:07

With this update about the noise - move house.

You're not over reacting. Sometimes you can just tell.

PurpleButterflyWings · 10/11/2022 19:06

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 18:14

Cue, lots of young single men having similar experiences with creepy, intimidating, overbearing older women? Hmm
Maybe not.

Yeah funny that isn't it? Hmm

OneTC · 10/11/2022 19:05

Your position isn't the standard one really when it comes to neighbours so you just need to tell him to fuck off otherwise hell just persist with the neighbourliness

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 19:04

@Cantthinkofausername01 ?

Cantthinkofausername01 · 10/11/2022 19:03

Oh please do stop @ me! I've said what I've said and I stand by it.

HotWashCycle · 10/11/2022 19:01

You should not have to put up with this. He may be lonely, he may be pervy, he may lack how to read social clues - who cares? Its not up to you to deal with it.
If it was me I would be very direct indeed next time. Don;t smile. Face him square on, look him directly in the eye, and say "I don't want to talk to you at all in future. Stop coming over to speak to me in my garden. I don't want to talk to you!"
No need to explain or say anything else at all - that is enough. If he tries to argue with you, ignore. If he disregards it in future, that is harassment and you can take it up with the police. Don't speak to him at all after this speech.
If he takes it out on you with loud music for a few days or weeks, it will be a price worth paying as he will soon get fed up with having to do it. You can record it and get the council to take noise action if necessary.
Be assertive OP Do not even think of letting hin drive you out of your space. If you get this message over to him loud and clear with no room for doubt, the problem is more likely to go away than if you do nothing. He is likely a bully and the only way is to stand up to them. We have been conditioned to smile and be nice etc. etc. but men like this exploit that fact, so the only way is to be tough about our boundaries.
The ring doorbell is a good idea in case you need evidence in future.

PurpleButterflyWings · 10/11/2022 19:00

In addition to that ^ some people work from home still, and are possibly 'at work' when random popper-inners knock and expect people to drop everything for them! Oh but we must BE KIND and let these entitled individuals in! Hmm

Kiplingroad · 10/11/2022 18:59

@Cantthinkofausername01 Oh, I take it all back. He's lonely!

That is, of course, something that OP, a complete stranger who happens to live next door to mr saddo, should take on as her problem to solve, despite the fact that she doesn't know him from Adam.

To do otherwise is so mean and "man-bashing" (interesting choice of word, there, given the statistics around male violence towards women. Apparently we're bashing them!!).

And no, these threads don't get boring. I love hearing women's collective rage and advice and support when it comes to these pests, it's like blood to a vampire for me. But if you find it boring, maybe Mumsnet isn't the place for you?

PurpleButterflyWings · 10/11/2022 18:58

purfectpuss · 10/11/2022 17:22

But I guess MN is full of people who don't answer their front doors unless the person rang ahead so the replies shouldn't be surprising.

Oh YAWWWWNNNNNNN. 😩 What a pathetic, tedious, and predictable response. Do grow up. 🙄 Nobody has to open the door to ANYone they are not expecting. No matter how entitled and demanding that person is. And how insistent they are that they come in, despite not being invited, and totally intruding on that person's time, and their day.

Not to mention the fact they are very likely in the middle of something/busy/on the way out. People like you are the reason many people DON'T answer the door to randoms turning up uninvited! Entitled much?! I am guessing you're projecting, and are a 'popper inner' and have had people turn you away or not answer the door. And are secretly peeved. Wink

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 18:56

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 18:52

@Deemarie11 I know it sound batty but my suggestion upthread worked for me. Who cares what he thinks?
Have you spoken about him with other neighbours?

I'll just go and find what you said @NoNonsenseinNorfolk

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Cantthinkofausername01 · 10/11/2022 18:54

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 18:45

If he is lonely does it mean I have to speak to him?

I'm lonely sometimes. I don't go over and talk to my female neighbour every time I'm lonely. We all can be lonely. I respect that she wants to be gardening when she is gardening, she is not there for me to go over and start talking to.

Some amount of women on here saying we should be kind to men because they are lonely. But I don't like him at all in any way.

If he wasnt my neighbour I would absolutely have nothing to do with him.

WELL TELL HIM THEN!

No point coming on here moaning about it if you haven't told him you dont want to talk to him!

I could see your point if you were coming on to tell us 'ive told my creepy neighbour to stop trying to be friendly but he just wont listen

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 18:52

@Deemarie11 I know it sound batty but my suggestion upthread worked for me. Who cares what he thinks?
Have you spoken about him with other neighbours?

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 18:49

Galaktoboureko · 10/11/2022 18:46

OMG! Your next door neighbour dared to attempt friendly conversation with you! I'd be calling the police and reporting him! 😂

I'll send him round to live next door to you so galak!

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Galaktoboureko · 10/11/2022 18:46

OMG! Your next door neighbour dared to attempt friendly conversation with you! I'd be calling the police and reporting him! 😂

NoNonsenseinNorfolk · 10/11/2022 18:45

Cantthinkofausername01 · 10/11/2022 18:37

I think you need to get a grip

These men bashing threads are getting boring. Poor bloke is probably lonely and just wants someone to speak to. I can almost guarentee he cant read your mind. So unless you tell him you dont want to talk then how is he supposed to know? Saying he fancies you is jumping the gun abit unless he's actually told you that?

Is it man bashing to say one creepy overbearing neighbour makes you uncomfortable?
OP, it's not him it's you. Confused

Deemarie11 · 10/11/2022 18:45

Cantthinkofausername01 · 10/11/2022 18:37

I think you need to get a grip

These men bashing threads are getting boring. Poor bloke is probably lonely and just wants someone to speak to. I can almost guarentee he cant read your mind. So unless you tell him you dont want to talk then how is he supposed to know? Saying he fancies you is jumping the gun abit unless he's actually told you that?

If he is lonely does it mean I have to speak to him?

I'm lonely sometimes. I don't go over and talk to my female neighbour every time I'm lonely. We all can be lonely. I respect that she wants to be gardening when she is gardening, she is not there for me to go over and start talking to.

Some amount of women on here saying we should be kind to men because they are lonely. But I don't like him at all in any way.

If he wasnt my neighbour I would absolutely have nothing to do with him.

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pilates · 10/11/2022 18:43

As a previous poster said put earphones on when you’re in your front garden. How annoying for you.