To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

OP has learnt a new word. Girlboss. Congratulations OP.

I agree, sharing the financial burden in the home is a provident idea. But the post I quoted wasn't implying that theme. I found that post to be explicit in showing a cynical view.
Although DP and I have talked about money, we don't work just in case one or the other pops their clogs or becomes ill. And young women sitting driving Audis at work go getting aren't thinking about the end of life either. Some of us, just like me like material things and being independent. However, as a consequence of this, many of us find a conflict of interest once relationships are forged.

Far too many posters pretend they work just in case DP turns out to be a twat, I'm sorry why to bother. It's the same at work, the cynism is usually from unpleasant or jealous people.

There are other reasons, yeah. I'm sure some would choose to work regardless. I don't think the majority would.

There are other reasons, yeah. I'm sure some would choose to work regardless. I don't think the majority would.

@RedAppleGirl It's not cynical at all. There is no problems with commitment in my 20 yr marriage. However my husband could die or be unable to work for an array of reason. Placing all responsibility for earning on one person's shoulders is always going to be precarious.

@AMorningstar my work has nothing to do with capitalism. You speak as though capitalism is the only reason people work. I can assure you it is not.

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I'd say you're full of shit. Weird that you can't conceptualise women can choose different things to you without there having to be manipulation at play.

And I know you're going to try to turn that around and say people can choose to be shallow, empty, consumerist vessels all by themselves too - they can, but corporations don't spend £££ on propaganda, sorry advertising, for nothing.

I'm working because i like it, i'm good at it, i'd be bored shitless sat home for 32 hours a week while kids are at school.

I'm a sahm*. My youngest isnt at school yet. I'm never sat at home bored. I'm studying for another degree, I do a lot of voluntary work (this week examples include organising a very successful Halloween charity fund raiser in which I did the bulk of the work, committee meetings and helping at our community hub) and I'm learning my grandfather's mother tongue.

It's not a straight choice between work or boredom. There are plenty of ways to develop skills, network and socialise with other adults without receiving money for it. I think that trope is lazy and distracts from the fact that society needs tax payers and ideally educated trained people would contribute, not opt out. There are lots of factors at play, generational cycles being one, childcare costs being another, lack of support for postpartum mental health issues (why I ended up as a sahm), lack of support for families with additional needs and also careers typically coded female having lower salary ceilings. I did a search in the University library a while back and from memory there was very little up to date literature about sahps in general. I'd argue that highlights the issue, it's not seen as enough of an issue to examine therefore we can discuss as much as we like, but support won't appear and cycles won't get broken.

*Although I do technically have a job as well, doing ad hoc hours for the LA in a similar role to my previous one but I don't do enough hours to count it.

@AMorningstar

Right.

But you, of course, aren't brainwashed?

And what would you say if I suggested women like you were brainwashed by the patriarchy?

There's a number of people who are brainwashed and believe constantly shelling out money into the machine will fill the void in their heart, sure. But that's not a) the majority or b) peoples natural state.

Exactly

Such a cynical tainted view of the world. There are people who are married who see off everything that life throws at them without needing to split. They must have a different formula for coupledom. Commitment maybe.
Having a backup plan, that's a seriously negative thought process leading to poor expectations of relationships. If you wish for something bad to happen, it will.

Sorry I meant pre school age children

Never said they want to be exactly like me? I don't think most mothers want to leave their kids to go and further capitalisms agenda. That's not insecure.
I thought the thread was about house wives, which is not the same as SAHP for school age children? Also do you think nurses/midwives/teachers are furthering capitalism agenda? What do you think would happen if women in these professions stayed at home for years after having children?

Have you looked at the neo Liberal hell hole recently?

He vast majority of people, mothers, fathers fully support capitalism and consumerism

They're not forced into it for the most part.

People trapped in poverty excluded.

You also seem to be extrapolating parents wanting to spend time with new babies to the whole of childhood.

That's simply not the case either.

I dont see people desperate not to send their kids to preschool or school because they can't possibly 'leave' them

Your view just doesn't stack up in the real world.

You are a minority by a long way

And that's fine.

Never said they want to be exactly like me? I don't think most mothers want to leave their kids to go and further capitalisms agenda. That's not insecure.

Lol.

I dont think everyone should be like me. They should do what they like. But I know they all secretly want to be like me.

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Such an insecure thought process.

It certainly hasn't helped. And your stats showed people are trapped by childcare costs not that if money was no object they'd still choose to work.

You think women wanting to work are to blame for flooding the Labour market?

Why am I not surprised.

Women have always worked. Its not a new thing.

I dont think there are a lot of women who want to be housewives. I dont know anyone who does

I'm not sure what you're basing that on.

Most stats and research (which I already provided) says the opposite.

Plenty didn't for one, two wanting equal rights isn't the same as saying every one wants to work two, back then one wage was often enough to support a family of five but flooding the labour market with excess workers has had a massive negative impact on that. Thirdly there's quite a lot of women my age and below who want to be housewives and SAHP, so clearly there's a significant amount of us.

It's a choice isn't it?
I respect people who make choices that works for them.

It's a chi

Out of interest why do you think so many women fought to be allowed to work and have careers if they wouldn't naturally choose it?

If the majority are forced into it?

Why bother?

Im not the op of this thread but was of te original - I actually don't have an issue with men staying home and women working. Whichever suits the family.

@AMorningstar

Yes. I. Have.

Lol.

In exactly the se way you have