To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

They were directed at you. Personally.

They weren't about the role in general.

I'm sure you'll get plenty of engagement with an offensive post like that.
Platting pubes.🙄😂
Are You Margaret Attwood?

I'm sure you'll get plenty of engagement with an offensive post like that.
Platting pubes.🙄😂
Are You Margaret Attwood?

The problem Morningstar, is that you have an extremely outdated view on women and the woman's place in the home, to the point it is offensive. It really isn't 1920/30/40 anymore, where women existed only to breed and rub their husband's feet (among other things).

Your views on casual sex are closely aligned with your backward and outdated views. It's 2022, women and men can do what they want with their bodies. Who on earth are you to tell people how you disagree with casual sex etc etc. Are you saying that in order to have a sexual relationship a woman must marry a man? It's such a warped view and women for generations have fought so hard to get away from that mindset and have a sense of worth in life other than the babymaker.

I suppose you are content with living 80/90 years in the past but you really are the minority. Women have self respect these days and independence. They don't prance around in their pinnies with their feather duster and relaxing on the chaise lounge like something out of Jane Eyre.

You need to keep your backwards opinions to yourself because it really is women like you that have delayed the progressiveness of women's right. I couldn't give a shit if you spend your time brushing your hair and plaiting your pubes for your DH. If he finds a weak and vulnerable childlike woman attractive then that is of his choosing, no matter how concerning that may be and how telling it is of his underlying fetishes.

I think it part, it's not your fault, you seem to have no solid female role models as the women in your family appear to be caught in a cycle of breeding machines like some sort of cattle farm. I do hope you don't impose your thoughts and values on your daughter though, and want more for her than you have managed to achieve in your life.

I also understand that you think there's no way on earth your DH will ever want out of the marriage, despite only being a few years in. I think you're in for a rude awakening. People by their nature resent lazy People. You've already admitted your husband works long hours and did all the night feeds for your children so you could be rested. Rested for your day of resting. It's ridiculous and that resentment will build, particularly when the looks start to fade and you have the ambition and drive of a lettuce.

But then. I've never seen antibes be nasty about the sahm or housewive role either.

Just honest.

The problem Morningstar, is that you have an extremely outdated view on women and the woman's place in the home, to the point it is offensive. It really isn't 1920/30/40 anymore, where women existed only to breed and rub their husband's feet (among other things).

Your views on casual sex are closely aligned with your backward and outdated views. It's 2022, women and men can do what they want with their bodies. Who on earth are you to tell people how you disagree with casual sex etc etc. Are you saying that in order to have a sexual relationship a woman must marry a man? It's such a warped view and women for generations have fought so hard to get away from that mindset and have a sense of worth in life other than the babymaker.

I suppose you are content with living 80/90 years in the past but you really are the minority. Women have self respect these days and independence. They don't prance around in their pinnies with their feather duster and relaxing on the chaise lounge like something out of Jane Eyre.

You need to keep your backwards opinions to yourself because it really is women like you that have delayed the progressiveness of women's right. I couldn't give a shit if you spend your time brushing your hair and plaiting your pubes for your DH. If he finds a weak and vulnerable childlike woman attractive then that is of his choosing, no matter how concerning that may be and how telling it is of his underlying fetishes.

I think it part, it's not your fault, you seem to have no solid female role models as the women in your family appear to be caught in a cycle of breeding machines like some sort of cattle farm. I do hope you don't impose your thoughts and values on your daughter though, and want more for her than you have managed to achieve in your life.

I also understand that you think there's no way on earth your DH will ever want out of the marriage, despite only being a few years in. I think you're in for a rude awakening. People by their nature resent lazy People. You've already admitted your husband works long hours and did all the night feeds for your children so you could be rested. Rested for your day of resting. It's ridiculous and that resentment will build, particularly when the looks start to fade and you have the ambition and drive of a lettuce.

@RedAppleGirl which posters are pretending to work in case their ohs are a that?

@AMorningstar

Why does anyone have to justify anything to you?

You've repeatedly spat the dummy any time you've been asked to justify your lifestyle choices

The hypocrisy is strong.

@AMorningstar

But you don't find ot weird or funny that you keep saying stuff then denying it?

Or that you're a massive hypocrite?

Fair enough

@RedAppleGirl which posters are pretending to work in case their ohs are a that?

@AMorningstar

Why does anyone have to justify anything to you?

You've repeatedly spat the dummy any time you've been asked to justify your lifestyle choices

The hypocrisy is strong.

I agree, sharing the financial burden in the home is a provident idea. But the post I quoted wasn't implying that theme. I found that post to be explicit in showing a cynical view.
Although DP and I have talked about money, we don't work just in case one or the other pops their clogs or becomes ill. And young women sitting driving Audis at work go getting aren't thinking about the end of life either. Some of us, just like me like material things and being independent. However, as a consequence of this, many of us find a conflict of interest once relationships are forged.

Far too many posters pretend they work just in case DP turns out to be a twat, I'm sorry why to bother. It's the same at work, the cynism is usually from unpleasant or jealous people.

I'm working because i like it, i'm good at it, i'd be bored shitless sat home for 32 hours a week while kids are at school.

I'm a sahm*. My youngest isnt at school yet. I'm never sat at home bored. I'm studying for another degree, I do a lot of voluntary work (this week examples include organising a very successful Halloween charity fund raiser in which I did the bulk of the work, committee meetings and helping at our community hub) and I'm learning my grandfather's mother tongue.

It's not a straight choice between work or boredom. There are plenty of ways to develop skills, network and socialise with other adults without receiving money for it. I think that trope is lazy and distracts from the fact that society needs tax payers and ideally educated trained people would contribute, not opt out. There are lots of factors at play, generational cycles being one, childcare costs being another, lack of support for postpartum mental health issues (why I ended up as a sahm), lack of support for families with additional needs and also careers typically coded female having lower salary ceilings. I did a search in the University library a while back and from memory there was very little up to date literature about sahps in general. I'd argue that highlights the issue, it's not seen as enough of an issue to examine therefore we can discuss as much as we like, but support won't appear and cycles won't get broken.

*Although I do technically have a job as well, doing ad hoc hours for the LA in a similar role to my previous one but I don't do enough hours to count it.