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To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

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Alondra · 31/10/2022 11:55

Apologies for making a second part to this thread but I feel strongly about this issue.

Topgub

Possibly because there aren't any benefits

Few countries have a government system caring about women and children. The majority of our governments don't care if all have to work for a pittance to pay mortgage, bills and food when children are small because average couples need both wages. A system where nursery fees are stratospheric and eating half an average wage, and worse still, because parents working full time, making an average pay to be able to survive, have few serious tax concessions. Those tax concessions go to multinationals.

It's a system that only cares about productivity attached to $. If you are an engineer with projects worth a million dollars, your salary will be minimum 15% of that money annually. If you are a carer or a parent, there is no quoted money attached to your work, so you are in a low wage or no wage at all.

A woman with two kids working full time for an average salary has not gained much from my mother’s time. Working full time, taking care of the kids when they are home and doing the lion share of housework and rarely free time at all.

With housing costs, bills and health systems collapsing, I really fear for women in the next few years. We will get the short straw as we've always done, but it'll be a plus if, at least, we don't turn on each other.

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AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:26

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:24

@AMorningstar

Shared leave exists

The mother shouldn't have to sacrifice her leave to give the father more.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:26

sst1234 · 31/10/2022 20:25

There are no kids.

She is a crazy cat lady who through this thread is living the life she wished she had had. No normal person talk the way this poster does. And they don’t devote 2 whole days incessantly typing on MN, without even pausing for breath.

Incredibly wrong, lol. But whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.

sst1234 · 31/10/2022 20:25

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 18:28

@AMorningstar How's been raising your kids for you these past 24h that you've spent almost continuosly arguing with us?

There are no kids.

She is a crazy cat lady who through this thread is living the life she wished she had had. No normal person talk the way this poster does. And they don’t devote 2 whole days incessantly typing on MN, without even pausing for breath.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:24

@AMorningstar

Shared leave exists

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:22

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:20

@AMorningstar

Sorry, you misunderstood

I meant most dad's dont want to be away from their babies either, shame your kids dad didn't get to stay with his.

All dads should get more paternity leave, I think we found something we agree on!

sst1234 · 31/10/2022 20:20

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 19:32

I didn't start it.

But I don't particularly care that a bunch of bitter MN Karens disagree with me. MN attracts a certain type of woman usually - middle aged PTA school gate mum girlbossing vanilla types who think video games cause violence and men are the root of all evil. Couldn't really give a toss what people like that think.

Sure you didn’t start it.

oh and as well as generally disliking women, you now bestow the title Karen upon them.

This poster is the definition of batshit. Honestly it’s so odd, it’s unreal.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:20

@AMorningstar

Sorry, you misunderstood

I meant most dad's dont want to be away from their babies either, shame your kids dad didn't get to stay with his.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:19

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 20:17

Tbh given that morningstar has spent next to no time at all with her children in the last 24h, preferring to argue with strangers on an internet forum, I don't think the bond is that strong

More assumptions about my life from you, whos got everything wrong so far. Keep them coming it's great 🤣 just making yourself look more and more bitter.

sst1234 · 31/10/2022 20:18

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:09

I can't believe it didn't occur to me before. It all makes sense now. You're the girl in school that can't wait to leave so she can find a man just like daddy to pay for everything whilst she does FA with her time. Her mother was usually equally as lazy and I imagine it goes back generations. Every school had one. Makes total sense.

It makes me feel quite sick that an adult man seeks out a partner to be submissive and meek and so he can stick his chest out and 'provide' whilst she stays at home being well rested for the after-tea sex on tap. Just gross. So little self respect.

I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the type of man who finds that kind of partner attractive. Those kind of men creep me out. Why you'd want a partner who is unable to manage an adult life and just sits around doe eyed relaxing and twirling her hair is beyond me. Something fundamentally wrong there.

That man needs someone to wax his eyebrows apparently.

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 20:17

Tbh given that morningstar has spent next to no time at all with her children in the last 24h, preferring to argue with strangers on an internet forum, I don't think the bond is that strong

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:12

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:11

@AMorningstar

So do most dad's

Shame your kids didn't get to.

I never said dads don't bond with their kids. But dad's also haven't been pregnant and birthed the child which means the bond will be different in some ways. Not better or worse. But different.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:11

@AMorningstar

So do most dad's

Shame your kids didn't get to.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:09

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:08

Oh and there was some guff about biology meaning mums should be with babies

I said most women probably feel a biological bond with their infant and want to stay with them.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:09

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:07

Ummm.

You were stating earlier people disagreeing with you meant you would be forced not to be a housewife

No. I said you want people to stop being one.

You asked me how I thought you could stop me and I outright said you could not.

Don't misrepresent me.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:08

Oh and there was some guff about biology meaning mums should be with babies

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:07

Ummm.

You were stating earlier people disagreeing with you meant you would be forced not to be a housewife

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:07

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:06

exactly

No one here has ever stated otherwise so unsure what your point is.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:06

exactly

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:05

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:03

@AMorningstar

You did ask.

You asked what of it.

People are replying

I'm not sure what the rest of your post has to do with anything

No one us asking you to be a housewife if you don't want to...

You're free to do as you wish. Like we all are.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 20:03

@AMorningstar

You did ask.

You asked what of it.

People are replying

I'm not sure what the rest of your post has to do with anything

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 20:01

Cool @Topgub no one is asking you to.

You do what you prefer and I'll do what I prefer. I know which lifestyle I'd rather have. I see so many people who don't treat marriage seriously or like the partnership it is, nor do people seem to truly love and adore each other. I think that's sad but everyone's free to do it if they want to.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 19:59

@AMorningstar

I didnt.

Thats OK 1 scenario.

I'm not making myself dependent on anyone else

Refrosty · 31/10/2022 19:59

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 19:56

Don't marry a shithead who engages in tinder relationships and doesn't value marriage. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Now ma'am... Actually nevermind. You do you girl 🤣

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 19:56

Topgub · 31/10/2022 19:55

The what of it is that its not a good idea to make yourself vulnerable

Don't marry a shithead who engages in tinder relationships and doesn't value marriage. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Topgub · 31/10/2022 19:55

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 19:49

Women can do all of those things too. Some people are shit husbands and wives. What of it?

The what of it is that its not a good idea to make yourself vulnerable