To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

@immigrant002

Thanks for proving my point about the wider impacts women enforcing sexism

Would love to know how it's misogynistic to believe women should be able to choose what they do with their lives and have equal opportunities to do so.

The fact I choose a certain path for myself is my own right to do so.

I wouldn't have said a THING about other peoples marriages or dynamics if they hadn't constantly attacked mine. Don't fling shit if you don't want it back.

Calling me aa gorilla in a wig is so fucking rude holy shit.

Sorry, I'm not going to take etiquette lessons from someone who's been hurling misogynistic insults left, right and centre for two days...

Calling me aa gorilla in a wig is so fucking rude holy shit. You're also massively misrepresenting what was said and what it was in response to.

Me saying people in relationships and marriages should make an effort for each other is not me saying "you'd be happier in the kitchen watching porn" 🙄 Me saying someone who constantly bangs on about infidelity and a back up plan while projecting that onto other people, isn't secure about their relationship is not me saying "you're all just jealous". I do think there's a jealousy element going on but you're making out like it was yelled at you unprovoked, rather than said after several offensive comments were levelled.

Again it's amazing how you have nothing to say to the abuse that was levelled at me, yet are horrified when I retaliate. Really telling.

They started on page 2 of the original thread. I had my suspicions, but a lot of women do have internalised misogyny.

But then it got on to the porn loving kinksters who don't believe in divorce or casual sex and YOU ARE ALL JUST BITTER JEALOUS KARENS WHO WON'T ACCEPT YOU'D ALL BE HAPPIER IN THE KITCHEN WATCHING PORN BITTER BITTER JEALOUS JEALOUS AND YOU SHOULD LOOK GREAT FOR YOUR HUSBANDS DID I MENTION YOU'RE ALL BITTER JEALOUS KARENS and I can't believe how many people continued to believe it.

This is "gorilla in a blonde wig and miniskirt" level stuff.

Not everyone struggles to keep a husband

Good Lord the profoundly misogynistic tropes just keep coming. We need a bingo board.

@AMorningstar

@Fairylightsongs sorry I forgot the 'some' women not the majority, a very small minority!

What will you do when your children have flown the nest? Your role as homemaker will dry up, at least while raising children you can see yourself as a productive member of society, but you won't be so convincing when there are no children in the home and you're just faffing about in an empty house as the full time carer of a fully functioning working man who could at any point decide he's not in love with you and take away everything you believe is secure and solid in your life.

What you both on about, what women are unhappy in their high powered Jobs?

pair of uou give your head a wobble.😂

I couldn't really find meaning in tasks which the majority managed to fit in around a 37.5 hour job but that's just me.
When children are small it's fine, and if there are health conditions or children with additional needs I also get it.
But I would be devastated if my daughter let herself be so vulnerable as the OP. I don't earn much but taking my kids away last week and knowing that I paid for every ice cream, museum entry, bus fare. That just means so much to me.
My only plea to the SAHP's is please learn how the family money is organised. Don't let your husbands decide where is goes and how it gets spent. In my opinion, women are actually much better at finding bargains, comparing deals, checking the credibility of certain companies. If he's gunna fuck you over, you need to know what money is going where.

No, you have it wrong. The reason women are unhappy in these high powered, stressful jobs is because they still have all the other shit to do as well. Very few men are throwing in their jobs to make sure their wives are 'well rested' like the OP has. The problem is not the job, it's the patriarchy. Employers know that which is why we're not promoted or head hunted as often. For every man who has a woman at home like the OP, there js a working woman is being shat on, underpaid, undervalued and under-utilised. It's why so many of my female colleagues don't go for promotions, because 'they don't need the extra stress', because they know that no one will take on the extra responsibilities outside of work if they do!

Exactly. Who really cares. Just be happy.

Haha, this is actually so true! Whenever I see a SAHM thread on mumsnet, I know topgub will be on it.

I am
Not a stay at home mum by the way!

It's definitely been an eye opener! I had no idea about this apparent schism. In either camp there seem to be unhappy people.

The sane thing to is educate your daughters not to be doormats and that they have their own means. If they choose a more traditional way of life, then they at least have some prospects if it goes south.

It's the difference between marrying a rich man and becoming a rich woman. Different things, very different women.

Oh look, OP found yet another alias.

Most women are happier in soft easy environments .

Of course, that's why we all come here.

Certain posters seem to be notorious for it. They can’t win an argument (because debates rarely end with a conceding side) so frantically trawl back through years worth of threads, trying to find something to discredit the OP.

And using somebody’s child’s SEN as a ‘gotcha’ is particularly distasteful. If they have an ounce of decency they’ll apologise and then bugger off.

Op may or may not have an axe to grind here, but what I cannot stand is when posters dredge up an OP’s previous threads and then ‘use’ them to try to make nasty remarks about her life or character.
Indeed, it used to be considered very bad form in the olden days of MN.

@TartanGirl1 keep lying to yourself sweethard 😆

That is golden 😂

Thank you. That person has been stalking me across threads as well as making things up to fill whatever gaps they think they find. Completely weird behaviour.

Wow I come back to find someone's bringing up my son being autistic? What the fuck has that got to do with anything here?

You don't believe parents of autistic kids can sleep well? Or you don't believe we have relatively normal lives..? Or what, because this is starting to sound absolutely fucking ridiculous. If you've got a problem with me that's fine but bringing up my son is a weird and pathetic thing to do, and is typical bullying behaviour.

As for the accusations of being a man - lol I wish. Wouldn't have my choices questioned half as much if I was.

Op may or may not have an axe to grind here, but what I cannot stand is when posters dredge up an OP’s previous threads and then ‘use’ them to try to make nasty remarks about her life or character.

It’s distasteful, vindictive and says a lot more about you than her. Particularly the way you dismiss her child as a ‘special needs kid’ and seem to delight in your ‘find’.