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To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

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Alondra · 31/10/2022 11:55

Apologies for making a second part to this thread but I feel strongly about this issue.

Topgub

Possibly because there aren't any benefits

Few countries have a government system caring about women and children. The majority of our governments don't care if all have to work for a pittance to pay mortgage, bills and food when children are small because average couples need both wages. A system where nursery fees are stratospheric and eating half an average wage, and worse still, because parents working full time, making an average pay to be able to survive, have few serious tax concessions. Those tax concessions go to multinationals.

It's a system that only cares about productivity attached to $. If you are an engineer with projects worth a million dollars, your salary will be minimum 15% of that money annually. If you are a carer or a parent, there is no quoted money attached to your work, so you are in a low wage or no wage at all.

A woman with two kids working full time for an average salary has not gained much from my mother’s time. Working full time, taking care of the kids when they are home and doing the lion share of housework and rarely free time at all.

With housing costs, bills and health systems collapsing, I really fear for women in the next few years. We will get the short straw as we've always done, but it'll be a plus if, at least, we don't turn on each other.

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AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:54

Autumndays123 · 01/11/2022 08:52

Anyone willing to bet these kinks OP talks about are Dom/sub fetishes? At least you don't have to spend any time getting into character I suppose

Why does our sex life matter so much to you lot? Vicarious enjoyment?

Tandora · 01/11/2022 08:53

I feel sorry for any of the poor men who do happen to be married to any of you, and don't blame them at all for the affairs they all seem to be engaging in

@AMorningstar it’s literally unbelievable that on the one hand you are trying to defend the idea you are not a misogynist and on the other keep coming out with stuff like this. One minute I feel sorry for you, the next I am enraged by your profoundly disturbing attitudes concerning gender.

Autumndays123 · 01/11/2022 08:52

Anyone willing to bet these kinks OP talks about are Dom/sub fetishes? At least you don't have to spend any time getting into character I suppose

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:52

Autumndays123 · 01/11/2022 08:49

Haha oh yes sorry Morningstar, I do remember now. You said your husband would never ever have an affair because he told you that he doesn't believe in infidelity.

Thank god he's not like the rest of our husbands and said yes I believe in infidelity, I hope that's not too much of a problem.

I'm sorry you married sub par men is all I can say to the women on thos thread. Tbh I think a lot of men are disappointing so I know there's lots of it about, but women really need to stop marrying arseholes (and then complaining about them).!

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:51

ReneBumsWombats · 01/11/2022 08:48

What tripped it for me, personally, wasn't the ongoing misogynistic ranting but the porn loving kinksters who think casual sex is immoral.

Anyway, the three (!) threads are obviously giving you what you came here for, so fill your size 12 boots.

What lol? We don't think casual sex is immoral for religious reasons if that's what you're thinking. There's no contraindication between married couples engaging in whatever sexual activity they want between themselves and that same couple thinking hookup culture, tinder relationships, OLD snd casual sex are ruining monogamy and the culture around relationships and marriage.

Autumndays123 · 01/11/2022 08:49

Haha oh yes sorry Morningstar, I do remember now. You said your husband would never ever have an affair because he told you that he doesn't believe in infidelity.

Thank god he's not like the rest of our husbands and said yes I believe in infidelity, I hope that's not too much of a problem.

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:48

Autumndays123 · 01/11/2022 08:43

Pressed send to soon. There's only so long he will be attracted to a woman who sits about all day resting. As I've said multiple times, that is not an attractive trait in a partner and I have never met anyone, anyone at all that's said whoa yeah I want to meet some work shy, lazy as hell, stuck up and with no aspirations. It doesn't happen because they are considered negative and unattractive traits.

There will be a day when the kids are grown and you spending 8 hours a day lifting weights and plucking your eyebrows doesn't detract from the fact you are older and not attractive anymore. You clearly place so so much value on this part of yourself and it will not last. I'm calling it now, your husband will either meet someone with something about them, bright and sexy because they are independent, successful and full of charm. He'll look at 40 year old you who's just spent another day drinking coffee with your other housewife mate and think I can't do this anymore.

Alternatively, if your husband is as obsessed with looks as you are, he'll shack up with the nearest 23 year old who 'needs' him and will leave you in the dust.

Stop being so silly and naive. You don't have this life that's soo much better than everyone else. We can all see what will happen because this is a story as old as time. Every single thing you've said about your relationship has red flags left right and centre.

But stay in your dream world OP. Hopefully you can find another man to look after you once the time comes

Yawn, you're not my husband so your opinion has absolutely no bearing on our relationship. I'll remember you when we celebrate our 40 year anniversary tho I promise. ❤️

ReneBumsWombats · 01/11/2022 08:48

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:37

I'm not a character and it's offensive to say such a thing. Dare I say misogynistic to claim a woman is a fictitious creature just because she doesn't agree with you.

What tripped it for me, personally, wasn't the ongoing misogynistic ranting but the porn loving kinksters who think casual sex is immoral.

Anyway, the three (!) threads are obviously giving you what you came here for, so fill your size 12 boots.

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:46

@AMorningstar

Insult people all you like. Just stop pretending it's all provoked or that you have some kind of moral highground or that what you're saying isn't sexist. Or worse pretending you haven't said what you actually said.

Any chance we could get back to discussing the op rather than you?

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:46

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You're again, wrong. I have no fears of him leaving nor do I have to preen myself as you put it. I think its respectful for people to make an effort, and it's normal snd healthy to want to look as desirable as possible for a partner. That goes for men and women.

My husband and I would never have affairs, either of us. I've mentioned it because so many of you go into marriages with the intention of it failing and I find that disgusting. Same reason I find prenups disgusting.

The modern culture surrounding marriage in general is a cesspool in all honesty.

FlamencoDance · 01/11/2022 08:45

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Autumndays123 · 01/11/2022 08:43

Pressed send to soon. There's only so long he will be attracted to a woman who sits about all day resting. As I've said multiple times, that is not an attractive trait in a partner and I have never met anyone, anyone at all that's said whoa yeah I want to meet some work shy, lazy as hell, stuck up and with no aspirations. It doesn't happen because they are considered negative and unattractive traits.

There will be a day when the kids are grown and you spending 8 hours a day lifting weights and plucking your eyebrows doesn't detract from the fact you are older and not attractive anymore. You clearly place so so much value on this part of yourself and it will not last. I'm calling it now, your husband will either meet someone with something about them, bright and sexy because they are independent, successful and full of charm. He'll look at 40 year old you who's just spent another day drinking coffee with your other housewife mate and think I can't do this anymore.

Alternatively, if your husband is as obsessed with looks as you are, he'll shack up with the nearest 23 year old who 'needs' him and will leave you in the dust.

Stop being so silly and naive. You don't have this life that's soo much better than everyone else. We can all see what will happen because this is a story as old as time. Every single thing you've said about your relationship has red flags left right and centre.

But stay in your dream world OP. Hopefully you can find another man to look after you once the time comes

FlamencoDance · 01/11/2022 08:43

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AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:43

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:42

@AMorningstar

I understand your defensiveness but its no excuse

Others are not to blame for your actions

I don't understand why it's okay for someone to insult me but me insulting them back is crossing the line 🤷🏻‍♀️ treat people how you want go be treated

Wiluli · 01/11/2022 08:43

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Wow !! So women are happy being doormats and submissive?? Right !!

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:42

@AMorningstar

I understand your defensiveness but its no excuse

Others are not to blame for your actions

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:42

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:40

The accusations of trolling and spending too much time on mn are boring as fuck and help no one.

Sadly, women with these views are not uncommon. They do exist.

It's also really easy to quickly read and respond.

Thank you. It's so fucking stupid on here how the minute someone disagrees with the hivemind, they get accused of being a troll or making it up. Much as I disagree with your views I don't think you're a troll or fake persons

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:41

You lot turned it into "my show" by constantly quoting me, making stupid comments about me and my husband and being insulting...

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:40

The accusations of trolling and spending too much time on mn are boring as fuck and help no one.

Sadly, women with these views are not uncommon. They do exist.

It's also really easy to quickly read and respond.

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:40

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:37

No.

Not mysoginist or sexist at all.

🙄

You really expect people to stand up for you while you're behaving like a petulant child having a temper tantrum, hurling sexist insults?

I expect people to not be hypocritical and if they think me criticising their relationships is offensive and sexist, the same should apply to people criticising mine. But it doesn't, does it, because "feminists" on here only care about one type of woman

FlamencoDance · 01/11/2022 08:39

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AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:38

Autumndays123 · 01/11/2022 08:37

I find it hilarious that OP has the nerve to suggest she doesn't blame pp husband's for having affairs.

OP listen, this is the honest truth, out of everyone on this thread, I would place my money on your husband being the one to eventually have an affair

You'd be wrong. Neither of us would ever have an affair and it's laughable that many of you keep trying to unseat the security of my relationship because you can't select good husbands yourself.

Not going to happen, and you won't make me insecure about my relationship either. Sorry.

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:38

@AMorningstar isn't the op

@Alondra is

Although despite being so passionate about the issue she hasn't been seen fir dust once it turned into the @AMorningstar show.

AMorningstar · 01/11/2022 08:37

ReneBumsWombats · 01/11/2022 08:36

In case there's anyone reading who actually did misunderstand the "gorilla in a wig and miniskirt level stuff" comment as you claim to have done, it was - very clearly - a reference to how convincing the character is.

It's what I always picture when one of these comes along. They are rarely this successful though.

I'm not a character and it's offensive to say such a thing. Dare I say misogynistic to claim a woman is a fictitious creature just because she doesn't agree with you.

Topgub · 01/11/2022 08:37

No.

Not mysoginist or sexist at all.

🙄

You really expect people to stand up for you while you're behaving like a petulant child having a temper tantrum, hurling sexist insults?