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Friend forgot our plans

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 14:07

I have a very good friend who is chronically late for our meet ups and never puts appointments in calendars and forgets about them. Tb

Over the summer I asked her to pick a weekend in November for her birthday as I wanted to do something special (it's a big birthday). It was settled for next weekend. Over the past few months I had organised a day full of nice activities- spa in the morning, hair and make up in the afternoon and dinner in the evening.

We are in contact a lot and during the course of our texting this morning I asked if she was all set for next weekend. She responded that she was going abroad. I sent her screenshots of our conversation from a few months ago and she said she forgot to put it in her diary, how she was mortified, but hasn't apologised.

I'm really upset. I spent so long organising it. Am I overreacting and should I just let it go or say something

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Itloggedmeoutagain · 30/10/2022 15:39

I'm amazed how much some people on here spend on friend's birthdays.
I've just booked to go away with a friend early next summer. I will see her countless times before then and the holiday will be mentioned /talked about/planned etc because that's just normal life. I can't imagine it getting to a week before and it not getting mentioned.

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 15:37

Snoken · 30/10/2022 15:34

Ok, but did you remind her or tell her you have actually booked anything between then and now?

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No. But to be fair that wouldn't be uncommon when we organise things with each other. It's usually "stick it in the diary". That's between us and our larger group of friends

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Mariposista · 30/10/2022 15:36

Cheeky shit. Drop her like a hot brick.

Snoken · 30/10/2022 15:34

Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 15:30

No we were texting about it as I said I wanted to organise a surprise day to celebrate her milestone birthday. For life events engagements, babies it's not uncommon that the two of us do things like this.

She said it was in her diary and how excited she was.

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Ok, but did you remind her or tell her you have actually booked anything between then and now?

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 15:32

Testina · 30/10/2022 15:31

You know what she’s like, but didn’t remind her several times?
You we’re setting her up to fail, and I think you know it.

It’s fine for you to decide you don’t want to remind her all the time… but in that case, don’t book things like this.

That's certainly not the case. Why would I set her up to fail?

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Testina · 30/10/2022 15:31

You know what she’s like, but didn’t remind her several times?
You we’re setting her up to fail, and I think you know it.

It’s fine for you to decide you don’t want to remind her all the time… but in that case, don’t book things like this.

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 15:30

Snoken · 30/10/2022 15:27

So did you just have a conversation about this in the summer with some vague plans of doing something this particular weekend in November and then nothing was said about it for months? I am not sure I would have assumed anything was going to happen either and I probably wouldn’t have probed if it was someone else saying they’d treat me.

She said it was in her diary and how excited she was.

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Sparkletastic · 30/10/2022 15:30

This does seem like a lot of money to spend on a friend.

Snoken · 30/10/2022 15:27

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 15:27

Beautiful3 · 30/10/2022 15:24

Think I'd take someone else like your mum/sister or another friend. Don't buy her anything for her birthday. If she asks why, tell her the weekend was non refundable so had to bring someone else. I wouldn't bother booking anything else with her again. She didn't forget about her holiday did she?!

Well she must have booked her holiday since we made plans as her diary was free when we made our plans.

There's been several conversations with her over time keeping/ dairising over the years and she had improved most of the time.

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whatwasIgoingtosay · 30/10/2022 15:27

For me, this friendship would be over.

Beautiful3 · 30/10/2022 15:24

Flubber88 · 30/10/2022 15:23

I had a similar experience, bought festival tickets, flights, B&B etc for friends birthday, "friend" pulled out the day before, I don't think they had any intention on going looking back. £1400 wasted. I called an end to the friendship which was a shame as was a friend from school (we were about 32 at the time).

FlowerArranger · 30/10/2022 15:19

MyOnlyDays · 30/10/2022 15:06

I would have double checked with a normal friend let alone a flakey friend.

Absolutely!

I'm known to be super organised, but if an arrangement is made months ahead - but the event isn't actually booked at that time - I'd get worried if it wasn't confirmed nearer the time.

Though, being me, I'd probably send an "are we still on for 5th November?" kind of message...

Winterfires · 30/10/2022 15:17

Ingrainedagainstthegrain · 30/10/2022 15:16

It all seems a bit intense for grown ups.

Which part?

Ingrainedagainstthegrain · 30/10/2022 15:16

It all seems a bit intense for grown ups.

Winterfires · 30/10/2022 15:10

She didn’t forget 😂

Ladybrrrd · 30/10/2022 15:08

I have several friends who are like this, and I know I'm not great at remembering things, so if there's something important coming up ill usually set up a group chat and send more frequent reminders. It's not your fault that she's like this, but if you know she is, I'd take a deep breath, let her know you're upset, and bear in mind what she's like for next time.

MyOnlyDays · 30/10/2022 15:06

I would have double checked with a normal friend let alone a flakey friend.

KettrickenSmiled · 30/10/2022 15:02

Has she even apologised, or asked if you are out of pocket for the things you have booked?

No she hasn’t, except for saying she’s so embarrassed

She sounds self-absorbed.
No apology, no thought for YOUR feelings or inconvenience - just a reference to how SHE feels.
I imagine she hopes that saying she's embarrassed will mean you feel sorry for her & drop it.
There's little point challenging her on it as she's not going to change, or become more considerate of your plans & your feelings.
So I'd just let it fade. Stop suggesting meet-ups, be slow to respond when she messages you.

Kissingfrogs25 · 30/10/2022 15:02

Knowing what she is like, ie disorganised, would it not have been a good idea to message a month or so ago to remind her/follow up? Just a quick text? Organising stuff from the summer to now, it is possible she has forgotten. Although she can't be a very close friend, as close friends don't forget milestone birthdays!!

If she is saying she is so embarrassed I would take that as an apology personally.

I wouldn't drop her altogether, but I doubt I would invite her to anything special again.

RuthW · 30/10/2022 15:00

Forget it. Go on your weekend with another friend and just give her a card to wish her well on her special day.

Don't bother with any more presents for anything.

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 14:57

rookiemere · 30/10/2022 14:52

To be fair, if I'd arranged this with someone in the summer, I'd be in contact with them sooner than one week to go to confirm arrangements.
It was a lovely thought OP, can you get refunds on what you've booked or go with someone else ?

I suppose I would just assume it would have been diarised when we set up the date. She said it was in the diary

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 14:56

KettrickenSmiled · 30/10/2022 14:53

She managed to remember she'd booked a plane ticket & is going abroad then?

I'm really upset. I spent so long organising it. Am I overreacting and should I just let it go or say something
Why do you think you are over-reacting?
Why would you 'let it go'?
Has she even apologised, or asked if you are out of pocket for the things you have booked?

No she hasn’t, except for saying she’s so embarrassed

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Bathtubbathing · 30/10/2022 14:55

Lavender14 · 30/10/2022 14:43

I'm neurodiverse, didn't know myself for a long time and my friends aren't aware because I don't really feel the need to label myself now but one of the challenges I have is that I'm incredibly forgetful and disorganised, i also get really anxious even before things i genuinely want to do with people i genuinely want to see. All my energy goes into keeping on top of things in my job so I'm not failing at that and by the time I come home I do not have the same mental energy to invest into other areas of my life. I'm fully aware that makes my flakey and I'm prone to things like forgetting to put things in my calendar and double booking myself. The one thing I hate the most about it is when people assume it's because I don't give a shit about other people. I care so much, when I make a mistake I will beat myself up over it for days but it's something I find very hard to change. If you know she is like this I'd say speak to her about it, explain the effect it has on you and give her a chance to explain her behaviour she might have a good reason that you're not aware of like mental health or adhd. Maybe she is genuinely just flakey and isn't considerate but if you call her out on it it firstly shows you care enough to be honest and secondly gives her a chance to either change her behaviour or explain to you what's going on.

Thank you for this.

You've made me see things about 2 flaky friends which I hadn't seen before. Your post has made me join up the dots.

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