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Anyone leave their horrible DH when their kids were little?

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kMix · 23/10/2022 14:05

two dc are 2. DH is horrible to me, sometimes to one of the kids. I mean he's not horrible all the time, but if I pull him up on stuff he can be horrible. Sulking. Unable to have a conversation without shouting. Poor MH. too.

Anyway - pls don't tell me he won't go for custody. I know him. He will. He will go for as much as he can possibly can. And he will make every single thing as difficult as possible. he will stay in the house. he will refuse to sell etc

I feel it's totally unreasonable to leave my kids to deal with him without me there. Should I wait until they're older and can have a say? They have a decade of having to go see my DH without a say.

People are always LTB but if anyone has ever been in my position - can they understand why it feels impossible to leave? Any stories or advice of people who have been through it?

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RandomMess · 28/10/2022 11:17

Oh I misread that you do have access to money. Try and stockpile as much as you can.

Presumably the CB is in your name?

RandomMess · 28/10/2022 11:12

What happens to your earning s and the child benefit- where does that money go?

kMix · 28/10/2022 10:59

We never had a joint account so I got access to cash. Parents quite supportive but v far away up north. DF is pretty angry and depressed and drinks and this won't help him.

I took the car keys with me last night as was worried he'd take DC to his mums. Probably being paranoid but I feel so scared about the DC.

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Bookishish · 28/10/2022 09:11

I’m glad you went out. Hope it goes well with the solicitor. If your husband is already looking for rooms, perhaps he’ll be less resistant than you fear.

Talk to someone you can trust. Make sure you have a decent pot of cash in an account he doesn’t have access to. Good luck, you can do this.

RandomMess · 28/10/2022 09:04

You don't love him and he treats you like a skivvy and is abusive towards you.

Get recommendations of solicitors that get good outcomes for those in a similar situations to you and book an appointment asap.

You can do this and you and the DC will be so much happier Flowers

kMix · 27/10/2022 23:40

I went out tonight with a few friends. On the last train feeling the guilt. Maybe I shouldn't have left the kids? I feel so determined that this is it. I do not love him. Thank you for everyone being kind xx

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Bookishish · 27/10/2022 17:14

I agree with everything @billy1966 has said on this thread. OP, you are in an abusive relationship. Please talk to your family and friends about what is happening to you. Is there somewhere =safe that you and the children can go?

I do understand your worries about custody and I had the same fears myself- in the end my ex only wanted EOW and he's still a shit but at least DC have a home which is safe and in which they are not abused or forced to watch their mother abused. I understand the urge to stay to protect them from being alone with him, but the fact is you can't protect them by staying- you are there and he is still being abusive. (To be clear, this is entirely on him.)

Please go to your dinner tonight. Talk to your friends and be honest about how bad it is. Let them help you see the way forward. Or if you genuinely don't think you can safely leave him with DC, that's your cue to get all of you out and to safety.

billy1966 · 27/10/2022 16:52

kMix · 27/10/2022 16:14

Thank you @billy1966 you are always so kind on threads i see. I know you can't stand the thought of the kids seeing all of that and neither can. I feel awful I didn't manege to deescalate it and instead I lost my cool too when he marched off.

His behaviour is on HIM.

You are responsible for you.

But logging his behaviour is the brave thing to do.

You and your children deserve better than this and you do not have to accept it.

The first step is to tell your friends and family the truth.

Ask for support.
Get legal advice.

Don't hesitate to say you are scared of how angry he gets with you and the children.

How you try and deescalate out of fear.

Play up your fear of him.

Getting a recommendation for a decent solicitor.
Calling Women's aid for advice.
Telling your GP.
Asking the solicitor is an occupation order a possibility.

Of course you are fearful, but this is only going to get worse.

Are your parents nearby and supportive?

Let those who care for you help.
I think calling the police the next time he starts on you would be a good idea.
Get him removed from the house.

Keep posting.
We are here for you.

BustingClouds · 27/10/2022 16:31

I left, best thing i ever did. And my dc agree (much older now). I was so worried about him having access and his awful negative hateful influence but all its done has push dc away from him. I used to catastrophise when dc were younger that they'd hate me for leaving and blame me etc but the reality couldn't be further from the truth.
Children always know, believe in yourself and the calm peaceful life that it is waiting for you Flowers

dancinfeet · 27/10/2022 16:20

yes, I left my abusive ex when my children were 5 and 1, youngest is now 18 and at uni, eldest also moved out and works full time.
It has been rough and wonderful at the same time- rough working long hours and not seeing them much when they were young, been at financial breaking point many times (including now), almost ended up homeless at one point, but we have also had some amazing times just the three of us too. They barely see their dad now, their choice as I never shielded him from showing them what a useless parent he was, no need to criticise him to the kids- they could see for themselves how selfish he was. Twenty years of being financially strapped for cash. but now they are both adults I’m really trying to focus on my career.

kMix · 27/10/2022 16:14

Thank you @billy1966 you are always so kind on threads i see. I know you can't stand the thought of the kids seeing all of that and neither can. I feel awful I didn't manege to deescalate it and instead I lost my cool too when he marched off.

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kMix · 27/10/2022 16:13

@supertato32 I love your username. A fave book in our house.

Yes, I think when reality hits he won't want 5050. But his pride will get in the way from admitting that he can't cope. He already can't cope.

But if I say I think he should shout less/tidy up more/help out etc he goes on about what a good dad he is...do anything for his family...kids are his entire life etc

He doesn't have many friends anymore. Hates his job. Doesn't go out drinking. He likes video games but it's not like the kids are getting in the way of his bachelor life.

I'd love it if he stepped up and Co parented them with me. But given he's impossible to have a conversation with can't imagine that happening

Do you still argue with your ex? How's your DD?

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billy1966 · 27/10/2022 14:51

He's abusing you and the children.

Your son is having to intervene.

This is shocking.

It needs logging.

Get legal advice.

You need to see can you get an occupation order, to get him out.

Please talk to your GP.

Tell your friends and family the truth.

He is abusing you and the children.

kMix · 27/10/2022 14:30

Yeah @mummysquasher If he left tomorrow morning I would be so relieved.

I don't think he will though. The rooms he were looking at were so small and expensive, he likes it here where he doesn't have to do much and gets looked after pretty much (which is my fault for letting it get to this). He's not happy cos I'm sticking up for myself buy ultimately he doesn't went to stand on his own two feet

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mummysquasher · 27/10/2022 14:18

If he moves into a house share he won't be able to do 5050. In some ways it would be easier for you if he did leave.

mummysquasher · 27/10/2022 14:17

I will never trust mine either. Perhaps yours will do like mine and shack up with an (apparently) lovely woman who will (from what I hear from my son) end up doing most of the childcare.

W0tnow · 27/10/2022 14:15

Go to dinner. Tell your friends. Once you tell someone it will be real. Ask for their friendship and support. Come home early. The sooner you start, the sooner it will be over.

kMix · 27/10/2022 14:09

Thank you for all your support. I do hear a lot that men don't follow through with custody threats.

I'm not against 5050 if that's what is best for the kids. I'll miss them but thats my issue. I'm against 5050 because I don't trust him. Half the reason I want to leave is how he talks to DC so I really hate idea of that happening without me there

DC was watching Mr Tumble on Dhs phone and dropped it on the sofa. I picked it up and saw that he's been looking at spare rooms in house shares near us.

I can't believe this is happening

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Mahanii · 27/10/2022 13:41

You may well be surprised at how much time with his kids he wants post divorce. Many of us on here thought our exes would go for shared residency and then they didn't - my ex practically disappeared overnight.

supertato32 · 27/10/2022 13:26

Adding to what @SudocremOnEverything he will have to pay for childcare on the days that he has the children! If he has very little money I doubt he'll want to do that. And also, how is he going to get custody of your children if he can't afford to take you to court.

I am talking from experience when I say this, but these men use children as a controlling mechanism. If you were writing how much he adored his children and did everything for them I could understand but it doesn't sound like he does.

My ex left me when my daughter was ten months old. He moved an hour away and went on and on about shared custody! He can't even afford to pay half her nursery fees, so when I told him that he'd have to pay for that he wasn't so keen! He loves having our LG until she isn't on top form. For example, she's been off nursery Ill all week. He couldn't even look after her for a whole day without bringing her back early and claiming he felt ill. I was so intimidated by him at first by his 'I have rights too' bollocks! (He doesn't feel that way when I ask him to pay for his daughter's nursery or look after when she's ill)! I realised he was a bully and just refused to give in to him. Children need at least one stable parent and it sounds like you're that.

Do yourself a favour and get out of the toxic situation. Agree to share custody over the weekend but they need stability in the week. Don't let him bully you into agreeing things you don't want to do

mummysquasher · 27/10/2022 13:25

My EXH tried the bad mum bit in our child arrangements court case. Said I should have given up my career to raise our son. Even our elderly male judge said that was nonsense.

Don't let fear drive your decisions. It is going to be difficult, of course it is. But keep your eyes on the prize. Your own space, physically and mentally. The opportunity to raise your kids how you want and in an environment you create, at least some of the time. You can't put a price on that. You can do this.

RandomMess · 27/10/2022 13:16

Why is 50:50 unfair or a bad Mum - you both work??

If he says you are a bad Mum then just say "no we will be equal parents as it should be"

kMix · 27/10/2022 13:12

Thank you @RandomMess he won't be able to use that against me will he? Like if I say "oh great I can start some hobbies" he will say its a sign I'm a bad mum? He's quite traditional in his outlook about mums as his own mum never did anything for herself

I'm meant to be going for dinner with friends tonight (first time in months) and I feel bad for leaving them all with this atmosphere.

I'm so scared. The guilt about it all is so enormous. There is no option where the kids aren't going to suffer and that is so difficult for me to accept. I keep thinking I can fix it for them

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RandomMess · 27/10/2022 13:07

He may threaten 50% but in reality he won't want it.

When he starts spouting off about it be very agreeable "yes 50:50 would work brilliant, I'll need time to get my social life back and take up hobbies etc. week on week off is what is often suggested"

He will back track when it comes down to it.

Flowers
kMix · 27/10/2022 12:34

Ah god. Quiet few days. This morning One of the DC pushed the cupboard door too hard in frustration at not being given a snack. And H really shouted at him. H is looking after them as he doesn't work Thursdays or Fridays.

DS ran behind me. I said "come on" to DH and gave him a look.

DH went mad. Started really shouting at all of us. Saying I don't "fucking do anything" and started sayung "why dont we all just fucking wreck the house". He even called me a nonse at one point which was a strange insult to choose.

I'm working from home but he grabbed his stuff and said he was leaving. I said you can't- im meant to be working. And he went mad again.

As he was leaving I lost my cool and shouted "don't bother coming back"

DS shouting "no fight" at us at this point.

I'm so ashamed. Poor baby boy.

H didn't leave after i said that. Said "I'm not going anyway now. Its clear youd like to be gone but fixk that" and is now cuddling the kids.

I'm upstairs crying. I need to go to back to work.

I'll book to see a solicitor next week. I've already spoken to one briefly before when things were bad before the summer. She really put me off saying how much of the money I'd lose and how 50% was normal unless I thought there was real risk etc.

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