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Would you vote conservative again?

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Erica56 · 22/10/2022 09:34

I wouldn’t vote conservative again after the total shambles that have been the last 12 years. They’re constantly infighting rather than sorting out the economy and have left the NHS in a total mess. No care for people suffering from the cost of living crisis

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BananaCocktails · 24/10/2022 18:44

I’ll never vote Tory or labour again
they are both exactly the same
No idea who I will Vote for now

Suzi888 · 24/10/2022 18:39

Chattycathydoll · 24/10/2022 10:50

And for the first time in his life, before he was finished…

🤣

Have never and will never vote Tory.

purplepencilcase · 24/10/2022 18:39

No.

RishyWashy · 24/10/2022 18:38

Blossomtoes · 24/10/2022 16:49

But what they will do is make life worse for women and girls.

How? Life couldn’t get any worse for some women. And there’s always money.

Of course it can get worse. That is very short sighted thinking.

MariEllie · 24/10/2022 16:57

RubyTrees · 24/10/2022 12:43

Keir Starmer was on LBC this morning and couldn't clearly answer the question "Should <a male> be included in an all-woman shortlist?".

According to Labour, the rights of a "tiny" minority trump those of the majority of the UK population.

I won't be voting Labour.

Starmer is hopeless. He can’t tell a man from a woman. Let’s face it he just goes with what he’s politically dumb party goes with. If they get in it will be more and more of the woke stuff and even worse management

Blossomtoes · 24/10/2022 16:49

But what they will do is make life worse for women and girls.

How? Life couldn’t get any worse for some women. And there’s always money.

RishyWashy · 24/10/2022 16:44

How do you think labour will rectify that? There is no money. But what they will do is make life worse for women and girls.

Blossomtoes · 24/10/2022 16:37

Have you considered the huge and detrimental impact to women and children under a Tory government which has destroyed public services? Get angry with the right people, ffs.

RubyTrees · 24/10/2022 12:43

RubyTrees · 24/10/2022 12:21

Two much energy has been expended on single issue politics. I find it hard to understand why some posters are so focused on parties stance on self ID- without considering the huge and detrimental impact Tory government has had on women and children

Have you considered the huge and detrimental impact to women and children when their rights to privacy and safeguarding measures have been removed?

Keir Starmer was on LBC this morning and couldn't clearly answer the question "Should <a male> be included in an all-woman shortlist?".

According to Labour, the rights of a "tiny" minority trump those of the majority of the UK population.

I won't be voting Labour.

RubyTrees · 24/10/2022 12:21

Two much energy has been expended on single issue politics. I find it hard to understand why some posters are so focused on parties stance on self ID- without considering the huge and detrimental impact Tory government has had on women and children

Have you considered the huge and detrimental impact to women and children when their rights to privacy and safeguarding measures have been removed?

Tanith · 24/10/2022 12:09

“New Labour under Blair was led by a Tory according to Roy Hatterskey and built on the aftermath and growth of Thatcher and the Tories. It was left wing conservative,”

Then why did the Coalition Government immediately start dismantling the achievements of that Labour Government? Why has the Conservative Government continued removing the policies and funding that Labour put in place?

The last Labour Government was a Labour Government and no re-writing of history to claim their achievements for the Conservatives will change that.
Nor will pretending the Conservatives weren’t in power during the 70s so they can conveniently forget the disastrous Heath Government.

Hobbesmanc · 24/10/2022 11:22

I haven't ever voted Tory although I've dabbled with the Lib Dems- we're in a Tory marginal where Labour will never get in. But my in-laws and some of my mums family deffo do. And I have close friends who are soft wet tory swing voters. I'm perfectly capable of treasuring and loving these people even if politically we might disagree. If 40% of the electorate voted Tory- that's a huge number of fellow citizens to dismiss as cunts

Lots of us are broadly centrist and neither main party has had much appeal to this voter cohort. I'd argue Blair and Cameron were the last two centrist leaders.

The UK needs someone to galvanise the middle ground. Sensible consensus around supporting the marginalised and the disadvantaged, promoting safe, market regulated growth, strong commitment to health, education and social care, clear and consistent foreign policy.

Two much energy has been expended on single issue politics. I find it hard to understand why some posters are so focused on parties stance on self ID- without considering the huge and detrimental impact Tory government has had on women and children

DdraigGoch · 24/10/2022 10:57

In Wales we've had 25 years of Labour. We need a change.

Croque · 24/10/2022 10:51

Chattycathydoll · 24/10/2022 10:50

And for the first time in his life, before he was finished…

You win the internet!!

Chattycathydoll · 24/10/2022 10:50

Blossomtoes · 23/10/2022 21:17

He’s pulled out.

And for the first time in his life, before he was finished…

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 24/10/2022 10:23

ThreeRingCircus · 24/10/2022 10:15

I honestly don't know. I'm a swing voter, I've voted for all parties in the past depending on their manifestos and policies at the time.

After the Brexit shit show, partygate and Liz Truss I'd been saying I'd not be able to vote Conservative again. I do rate Rishi Sunak though so if he becomes PM we'll have to see how things play out, I really hope he can turn things around.

Labour's policies on self ID, their treatment of gender critical MPs and their abysmal performance as an opposition party when they've had essentially an open goal with a crumbling Conservative party deeply concern me. I'd be highly wary of voting for them at the moment but then I stand back and look at the state of the country and it is far worse than it was in 2010. So I simply do not know. As others have said, I feel politically homeless and I'd have to just vote on what I felt were the best policies at the time of a general election.

It's utterly crap and disheartening. Politics in this country is in a terrible state.

How do you rate him though? Were you not disgusted at the video of him at the BBQ, boasting about taking the funds away from struggling areas?

ThreeRingCircus · 24/10/2022 10:15

I honestly don't know. I'm a swing voter, I've voted for all parties in the past depending on their manifestos and policies at the time.

After the Brexit shit show, partygate and Liz Truss I'd been saying I'd not be able to vote Conservative again. I do rate Rishi Sunak though so if he becomes PM we'll have to see how things play out, I really hope he can turn things around.

Labour's policies on self ID, their treatment of gender critical MPs and their abysmal performance as an opposition party when they've had essentially an open goal with a crumbling Conservative party deeply concern me. I'd be highly wary of voting for them at the moment but then I stand back and look at the state of the country and it is far worse than it was in 2010. So I simply do not know. As others have said, I feel politically homeless and I'd have to just vote on what I felt were the best policies at the time of a general election.

It's utterly crap and disheartening. Politics in this country is in a terrible state.

walkingonsunshinekat · 24/10/2022 10:02

Faciadipasta · 24/10/2022 09:53

TBH if the Tories promised joining SM & Labour didn't support this, i'd vote Conservative.

You know what? I think I would too. Through gritted teeth mind.

Sad isn't it?

That policy might cost the Tories some red wall seats but they don't like Sunak anyway, could be sold as cake n eat though.

But it would also mean they hang on to more southern seats.

Plus Tories yet again parking their tanks on what should be Labours ground.

Faciadipasta · 24/10/2022 09:53

TBH if the Tories promised joining SM & Labour didn't support this, i'd vote Conservative.

You know what? I think I would too. Through gritted teeth mind.

walkingonsunshinekat · 24/10/2022 09:50

I switch votes so it’s not a definite I stick to one party but after hearing R4 this morning I’d vote for a Blair like party, no gender lies, but wanting to rejoin single market or something that would mitigate Brexit

TBH if the Tories promised joining SM & Labour didn't support this, i'd vote Conservative.

The Single Market gives us the best way to improve the economic outlook of the UK.

Clavinova · 24/10/2022 09:13

The centre for European reform figures show that by then end of last year the economy was 5% smaller than it would have been if it stayed in the EU

From their website;

The Centre for European Reform is an award winning independent think-tank devoted to making the EU work better, and strengthening its role in the world.

www.cer.eu/

red4321 · 24/10/2022 08:49

NormalNans · 24/10/2022 08:36

Thank you for answering, so I think what you’re saying is that they’re the best of a bad bunch but you don’t actually want to vote for any of them?

Yes. And it's nice to have a respectful debate that isn't Tory voter = evil. Labour/Lib Dems don't reflect my political ideology.

I'm embarrassed by Boris' deflection and I like KS. But I wouldn't ever vote Labour.

NormalNans · 24/10/2022 08:36

Thank you for answering, so I think what you’re saying is that they’re the best of a bad bunch but you don’t actually want to vote for any of them?

daviesbrownsmithgreen · 24/10/2022 08:21

This was always going to be a question that would lead to arguments.

No, people only vote for Tories out of selfish reasons. People will a stronger moral compass vote Labour, I'm sorry if that offends anyone but that's how it is.

Funnily enough, if you look at the demographics of Tory voters, its the highest and lowest earners in the country that vote for them. Ironic because its the lowest earners that consistently get shafted. As the standard of living in the UK has increased, and lower income earners can afford a nice big TV, a package holiday each year etc. they disassociate with being lower income earners and vote Conservative as they believe they'll benefit from them.

From a personal perspective, if you honestly think Labour will do a worse job than Conservative you need to take a long look in the mirror. The country is fucked.

MarshaBradyo · 24/10/2022 08:05

I switch votes so it’s not a definite I stick to one party but after hearing R4 this morning I’d vote for a Blair like party, no gender lies, but wanting to rejoin single market or something that would mitigate Brexit.