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Would you vote conservative again?

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Erica56 · 22/10/2022 09:34

I wouldn’t vote conservative again after the total shambles that have been the last 12 years. They’re constantly infighting rather than sorting out the economy and have left the NHS in a total mess. No care for people suffering from the cost of living crisis

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GreatHonkingPudding · 22/10/2022 10:20

Those of us with mortgages are soon to get hundreds of reasons a month not to vote Conservative again aren't we? Unless we've remortgaged already and already have to find hundreds of pounds extra every month because of them.

vipersputpaidtomylastusername · 22/10/2022 10:19

Cornettoninja · 22/10/2022 09:49

The last few months are the culmination of the last twelve years. My seven year old is going on to the fifth prime minister in her lifetime. Do you really think there’s any talent rising to the surface given the way they get through leaders? This is the best they’ve got at the moment.

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The question isn’t ‘would you vote labour’ it’s ‘would you vote conservative’. Other parties are available. It’s incredibly politically lazy to pick your ball up and go home because you have some sort of compulsion to only vote for one party.

@Cornettoninja
I'm aware of the question thank you which I answered in full. It appears you saw a part of that answer which you disagree agree with and decided I hadn't answered the question. I would suggest that's your issue not mine.

I'll spell it out for you.
Ultimately there are only 2 parties that are likely to get in to power. As I don't want it to be Labour, I would tactically vote Conservative. Therefore my answer is yes, I would vote Conservative. Clear?

Cornettoninja · 22/10/2022 10:19

GreatHonkingPudding · 22/10/2022 10:17

Look, the NHS is an unmanageable behemoth. Labour tried spending more money on it, and it got better. The Conservatives tried spending less money on it, and it got worse. It's just an intractable problem that we're never going to solve. Voting for the party that wants it gone is obviously the best way to improve it.

Like Brexit, what are you actually voting for?

I’m not adverse to reforming healthcare but that doesn’t mean burn the only option the population has without bringing in the alternative. That’s psychotic.

Mardyface · 22/10/2022 10:19

GreatHonkingPudding · 22/10/2022 10:17

Look, the NHS is an unmanageable behemoth. Labour tried spending more money on it, and it got better. The Conservatives tried spending less money on it, and it got worse. It's just an intractable problem that we're never going to solve. Voting for the party that wants it gone is obviously the best way to improve it.

Don't. People don't understand this level of satire any more.

Lapland123 · 22/10/2022 10:18

Kennykenkencat

i can assure you the nhs was entirely different to work and be treated in under labour government. It is now unrecognisable. Services will continue to contract under Tory government. Expect things to get much much worse. Expect no treatment or help now if you are ill. They have ensured the services are entirely mismatched with patient need.

GreatHonkingPudding · 22/10/2022 10:17

Look, the NHS is an unmanageable behemoth. Labour tried spending more money on it, and it got better. The Conservatives tried spending less money on it, and it got worse. It's just an intractable problem that we're never going to solve. Voting for the party that wants it gone is obviously the best way to improve it.

MarshaBradyo · 22/10/2022 10:16

UWhatNow · 22/10/2022 10:14

Labour want to erase hard won women’s sex-based rights so they will not get my vote.

Although this does concern me too

MarshaBradyo · 22/10/2022 10:16

I’ll decide at time but Labour could have a go at this point

Suzi888 · 22/10/2022 10:15

No, never. They’re a shambles!

UWhatNow · 22/10/2022 10:14

Labour want to erase hard won women’s sex-based rights so they will not get my vote.

Cornettoninja · 22/10/2022 10:14

Give it a bash right now @Kennykenkencat. you won’t just be near death, you stand a good chance of tea with the grim reaper. Good news is medical negligence doesn’t get a look in, you’d have to survive the average four hour wait for an ambulance to get anywhere near hospital grounds.

GreatHonkingPudding · 22/10/2022 10:12

Perhaps I was young and stupid, but the Conservatives seemed like a good party to vote for in my youth, but now I haven't voted for them since Cameron, and sincerely I wish I hadn't voted for him since he ushered in the Brexit era in an attempt to stop his party fighting like rats in a sack.

It didn't help.

Obviously.

Brexit always makes everything worse. Besides always giving you the opposite of what you voted for it for, making things worse is Brexit's defining feature.

Kennykenkencat · 22/10/2022 10:12

Erica56 · 22/10/2022 09:34

I wouldn’t vote conservative again after the total shambles that have been the last 12 years. They’re constantly infighting rather than sorting out the economy and have left the NHS in a total mess. No care for people suffering from the cost of living crisis

What do you mean by left the NHS in a mess?

From my experience it has always been a mess. My worse experiences of trying to get treatment (both times I was near death) were under a Labour government.

THE NHS is a behemoth of an organisation that won’t change because the rhetoric is always how cash starved it is. Not how it’s practices waste the resources it has.

YellowTreeHouse · 22/10/2022 10:11

@Faciadipasta @NicolaSixSix They’re far too woke, too wishy-washy, don’t understand the meaning of a woman and cannot make the hard decisions.

Cornettoninja · 22/10/2022 10:10

Cuppasoupmonster · 22/10/2022 10:08

The only people who would vote Tory at this point are either incredibly stupid or incredibly selfish; and nothing will change my mind 🤷🏼‍♀️

At this particular point in time I agree. When you’ve got members of your own party publicly disillusioned and speaking frankly about the need for party reform it’s surprising that anyone can continue to follow them.

Merrow · 22/10/2022 10:10

I've never voted Tory but I understood why people would. But recently they seem to have been more focused on trying to mend their ideological split (which is what kicked off the Brexit referendum in the first place) than actually being a party with a vision of how they govern. And if they bring back Boris I hope there's a mass exodus of MPs, but I doubt there will be.

Greenshake · 22/10/2022 10:10

Yes I would. I have voted for every major party in the past, at one time or another.

Lapland123 · 22/10/2022 10:10

I don’t understand why they continue to be voted in. And now Boris trying to comeback? What???

I think those who vote for them must be feeling v healthy ( never need to use NHS which they have destroyed), no kids in school, no kids in uni.

statistically speaking, a large portion of the population need and use the above, so I conclude the majority that compulsively vote Tory have a form ofStockholm Syndrome

Cornettoninja · 22/10/2022 10:09

Stripyhoglets1 · 22/10/2022 10:02

No the NHS wasn't in the mess it is now under Labour.
Targets were often met - max 4 hours in A and E and 18 weeks for surgery/treatment.
Not old people dying waiting.g for ambulances if they send one at all, 12 plus hours in A and E. Ambulances stuck for hours waiting to offload patients and

I agree @Stripyhoglets1. It’s like some people think we weren’t there?!?

Cuppasoupmonster · 22/10/2022 10:08

The only people who would vote Tory at this point are either incredibly stupid or incredibly selfish; and nothing will change my mind 🤷🏼‍♀️

jeaux90 · 22/10/2022 10:07

I used to be a member of the LP.
I resigned.

I will never vote for them again unless things change.

Kabalagala · 22/10/2022 10:07

They can't even form a functional government. Why on earth would anyone vote for them

Devo1818 · 22/10/2022 10:06

KangarooKenny · 22/10/2022 09:40

Didn’t Rishi get fined too ? And his wife wasn’t paying tax here ?
Why on earth is he seen as the go to guy ?

Because there's not really anyone else left. He's the least worst.

Cornettoninja · 22/10/2022 10:06

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 22/10/2022 09:58

And usually on the left

Oh please, both sides are prone to it. I don’t recall many right wingers on here distancing themselves from Suellas parliament rant about tofu eating wokerati.

Soubriquet · 22/10/2022 10:05

I have never voted tory and I never will.