School Trip to Morocco

I am a teacher and have been on many school trips. On every single one the other teachers got drunk in the evening. One teacher even smuggled whisky onto a dry Christian campsite. The lead of a trip to France got so drunk I had to carry her to her room. I have had children with unlocked connecting rooms that have men in them, kids break an ankle and I dealt with it all as the other staff were drunk. I will never let my child go on a residential school trip.

No I wouldn't, based on my personal experience of travelling to Muslim countries as a woman.

Been travelling to the Middle East for work for 30 years. Speak Arabic etc.

I'd never let my teenage daughter go on a school trip to Morocco,
for one thing, the roads are terrifying - esp. coach travel.

Sure they weren`t just wanking among themselves?

I went with my parents when i was 15, i was sexually assaulted in the sea, had men trying to buy me and men constantly shouting disgusting things at me. Personally i wouldnt send a teenage girl there. I also got lost in the markets in Marrakech and people kept sending me the wrong way to get me more lost and separated from my mum.

@MsTSwift that is fucking awful, I'm sorry. Had similar but not quite as extreme experiences as you. I'd rather never have another holiday than go back to Tunisia or Egypt. A real shame as I loved the historical stuff in Egypt.

No they're not hidden away. The women OR the clothes You clearly don't have any idea of what the country is like (though your far from alone in that, given just about everyone's reaction before and after I went there five years ago. This is the sort of thing the average young Iranian woman wears.

Obviously I'm not excusing what's going on there at the moment, but still.

Yeah I’m quite well travelled. Independent travel in South America, Far East, Israel and (with one terrifying exception where used up a life) India were all absolutely fine. Kenya not sexually harassed but we were both terrified by the under current of violence but North Africa been twice constant sexual grimness. No way would I ever visit the latter again. Though prob fine now I’m nearly 50!

I went to Marrakesh for 3 nights on my own. Lone female wandering around the souks, dining alone, catching shared taxis.

all fine, met some lovely people.

granted I’m a middle aged woman not a teenage girl but she won’t be alone.

Just because something hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It’s very rude to accuse multiple women of lying just because you haven’t had it happen to you.

@Fastandlupine obviously not, but your comment was. As if only once makes it okay 🤷‍♀️

sure, I’ve been to Egypt and Tunisia and both countries as a single woman with a teen dd I’ve been harassed (as was Dd), chased down the street, cat called and intimidated. I know of numerous other women who have had this happen to in Morocco. Also had it happen to me as a teenager in Iraq and Afghanistan.

other countries I’ve visited such as numerous African countries, Central America, China, Thailand, Many European countries including Iceland I’ve never experienced it. There may well sometimes be male attention but not commonly touching you up in crowded places as you walk down the street attention. And if that did happen in oh, say Iceland for example it would be considered very unusual and the police would take it seriously.

and that’s before we get onto the issues of homosexuality being illegal, women seen as second class citizens or potential terrorist issues.

My parent's went to Morocco years ago, I think in the 90's. My mother told me they saw a lot of animal cruelty in the market places. I didn't ask her to elaborate for fear of what I'd hear.

My friend and I ended up unable to leave our hotel room in Cairo. We dressed modestly no make up and we were both dark haired. Made no difference we were western, young, female and unaccompanied.. Every time we left the room men of all ages said and did disgusting things. When we used the hotel pool the waiters lined up to watch us swim some wanking. Fun times.

I travelled solo to Marrakesh and love it. The only thing that gives me pause for concern is the price. £1,000??? I travelled for a fraction of that and I didn't have the buying power of a large group.

That's because the teachers are working while they are there. Do you expect them to pay to go on school trips? It is really hard work, with a high level of responsibility.

Been to Morocco and Tunisia with my teenage daughters. Really not safe on their own.

Yes it does unfortuantely 🙁

No I wouldn’t let my daughter go to a non-Western country. Not until she was grown up, and even then I’d be a bit nervous. It’s not worth the risk.

Morocco is perfectly safe to visit, although the trip sounds quite expensive.

Oh it does my dear!

interested to hear if some of the “isn’t morocco marvellous” crowd have actually travelled in these countries as young women? Because I have and it was fucking awful.

Mstswift, this doesn't happen

I've been to marrakesh for a long weekend. It was fun and nice to see something a bit different. I would go again but I wouldn't pay a grand for a 12 year old to go there on a school trip.