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School Trip to Morocco

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Goldsand · 17/10/2022 19:00

My DDs secondary school have just announced they will be doing a school trip in the next school year to Morocco for my daughters year.

It’s normally Iceland but they have changed it to Morocco this time.

A couple of other mums have said they won’t be sending their kids as they don’t think it’s safe to send their teen girls there.

Iv never been personally but I thought it was a safe country overall.

However, now I’m doubting myself …. I was going to agree to her going even though i think it’s steep as it’s over £1,000.

So…

YABU - It’s safe, don’t worry about it.
YANBU - I would never send my teen child there on a school trip.

OP posts:
Maireas · 17/10/2022 20:10

Spot on, @viques
Same old, same old. Some people have no idea.

Maireas · 17/10/2022 20:09

MsTSwift · 17/10/2022 20:06

It’s quite a bold endeavour for the staff. There was a tragic accidental death of a teen on a school trip at a linked school in a European country. I am usually quite relaxed but this trip would worry me.

Bold indeed. You'd have to triple my salary. I had a bad enough time in Berlin with yr12s! No way.

Itsnotallblackandwhite · 17/10/2022 20:09

Goldsand · 17/10/2022 19:08

The schools been asked why Morocco but haven’t replied yet.

Itinerary is along the lines of this..

2 nights in Marrakesh
2 nights in Ourzazate
1 night in a camping in the desert with camel rides etc

Years ago a friend of mine went to Morocco with her DP and they did a trip to the desert with camels and sleeping under the stars with their lovely guide. What wasn't so lovely was the guide sexually assaulting her in the middle of the night while her DP was asleep. She was too shocked and terrified to say anything to her DP until they were back in their hotel.

Obviously an anecdote, I know couples who have visited without any problems, but I really wouldn't want my teenage DD going there without me.

JudgeJ · 17/10/2022 20:07

Georgyporky · 17/10/2022 19:34

I've been to Marrakech.

I don't think safety is the problem, but the cost is extortionate.

You do realise the teachers pay nothing?

Their costs are added onto the cost to the pupils.

This old chestnut about teachers' places, the companies organising these trips factor in the cost of teacher's places, would you rather your children were not well supervised? Remember, they have to be better than parents, parents have accidents, teachers are careless!

MsTSwift · 17/10/2022 20:06

It’s quite a bold endeavour for the staff. There was a tragic accidental death of a teen on a school trip at a linked school in a European country. I am usually quite relaxed but this trip would worry me.

Kimya · 17/10/2022 20:06

They're going on an organised trip, I wouldn't consider it unsafe. However Marrakesh is a shithole.

Bananamaman · 17/10/2022 20:05

I love Morocco- a stunningly beautiful and really fascinating country. I’ve been to all the places on this trip and would recommend them all (especially sleeping in the desert- a pp was saying it’s expensive for camping but it’s really not equivalent to a camp site!)

I do agree it’s expensive.

Rewis · 17/10/2022 20:05

Wtf happened to school trips to the zoo, amusement Park, major domestic city or a cheap trip with ryanair.

purplerain13 · 17/10/2022 20:03

Been there. They will possibly be mugged, groped and definitely cat called.

Maireas · 17/10/2022 20:01

Noviembre · 17/10/2022 19:59

Agree with the others that you should just take the kids to Iceland. Sounds like the teachers have decided they want some sun.

Really? Why not go to Menorca during the holiday if you want sunshine rather than have massive responsibilities?

Tigerbus · 17/10/2022 20:01

It's a trip that girl guides international do all the time. I think you should contact your regional girl guide and ask them questions.

JudgeJ · 17/10/2022 20:00

feellikeanalien · 17/10/2022 19:30

I went to Morocco in the 90s with my ex-H for a day trip from Gibraltar. It totally put me off ever going again. We were constantly hassled and it felt very unsafe (various dodgy people at the port offering to take us for a trip into the mountains!!) I would never send my teenage daughter there.

If you did the inevitable trip from Gib, not still the old Mons Calpe I assume, then you'll probably have just been round Tangiers, a whizz round on a bus, a seedy lunch with a belly dancing caberet and a walk round a souk. You'll have been hassled to death because they know when the day trippers are coming in. We lived in Gib for years, never did the one day tourist trip.

VanCleefArpels · 17/10/2022 20:00

Y8 seems a bit early for this kind of trip. My DS did a v similar itinerary for A level geography in Y12 - mixed school, they all had a great time and were busy doing project work for the A level which did count. Y8 wouldn’t necessarily have that academic focus, more of a jolly. Certainly not academically vital then so a choice if you can afford it.

minipie · 17/10/2022 20:00

We took our young kids in 2019. It was great. No hassle. Had been with DH 10ish years previously and remember a little more hassle but nothing dreadful.

I think a group of y8s would be fine there IF they are with teachers/trusted guides at all times - no going out alone - and IF they are advised on to dress and behave appropriately.

But tbh I’d say the same of y8s going anywhere!

Itisbetter · 17/10/2022 20:00

Way too expensive and imo utterly inappropriate for a young girl travelling without family. This is the backdrop she would be operating in

english.alarabiya.net/perspective/2013/03/07/Morocco-eyes-law-on-rape-and-child-marriage-

Noviembre · 17/10/2022 19:59

Agree with the others that you should just take the kids to Iceland. Sounds like the teachers have decided they want some sun.

CellarBellaatemycoal · 17/10/2022 19:58

No way. Morocco is a fabulous country but there’s no way I’d allow my teenagers to go on a school trip there. Too many health risks that can require hospitalisation, and too much harassment .

adriftabroad · 17/10/2022 19:58

PS Roads to Quazazate are hairy... this would worry me most.

pleasestoprainingplease · 17/10/2022 19:56

Darbs76 I wonder if this is the same school my DS goes too. We got that email and I was shocked at almost 3k Confused

adriftabroad · 17/10/2022 19:56

Love Morocco, have been to the places mentioned many times , plus Agadir etc. I even took DD when she was 5. I am blonde, she is blonde. You absolutely HAVE to know how to dress and act. You need to embrace local culture and food.

However, there are concerns for me at this proposal...

My questions would be

Do the teachers speak properly fluent French?
Do they have experience of Morocco?
Is it during Ramadam?
That is 50% too expensive for the trip you are considering. It was my actual job to price these things, for corporate groups, let alons children. Ridiculously expensive.

With teenaged girls (and boys), it is a no. Unfortunately.

Maireas · 17/10/2022 19:56

Georgyporky · 17/10/2022 19:34

I've been to Marrakech.

I don't think safety is the problem, but the cost is extortionate.

You do realise the teachers pay nothing?

Their costs are added onto the cost to the pupils.

Oh here we go.
A few teacher places are free, mostly the staff pay towards it.
Would you pay to supervise teens 24/7? Or think maybe it should be subsidised?

MissingNashville · 17/10/2022 19:55

....Not to mention the attitudes to being gay. I’d be challenging the choice of destination with the school. Iceland is lovely and a much better choice all round.

Summerfun54321 · 17/10/2022 19:55

No way for year 8. I bet a man has organised this trip.

Maireas · 17/10/2022 19:54

LIZS · 17/10/2022 19:12

Ridiculous cost.

I suspect that the insurance is high

Blueberrycreampie · 17/10/2022 19:54

I remember pupils going there in the 60s but maybe things were very different then, and it might have been as part of a cruise? This was in Scotland.