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To ask my partner for a vasectomy

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Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 06:28

Ok so this is something that keeps coming up with me and my partner and I would like some impartial advice if you have any please.
My and DP have been together 10+ years, 2DC. Not an easy time getting here as I have had multiple miscarriages so I know I’m done having children.
I am super sensitive to contraceptives, I’ve already been on two after having my DD 6 months ago. I get very moody, have whiplash mood swings and sometimes I’m bordering on depressed. I was like this after my first daughter too so I know it’s related to the pill.

Last month we had a pregnancy scare as I had come of my previous pill as I wasn’t myself. This scared us so I agreed I’d try another pill and after advice from my GP I’m currently on rigevidon but same old story as previous contraception. I have mentioned a vasectomy to my DP before but he’s said no as he’s very very squeamish. I made a deal with him when I went on rigevidon that I’d continue taking it so long as he got booked in with the GP for a vasectomy as it can take 52 weeks in our area on the NHS. He’s not even rang the docs and has now changed his tune saying he won’t get one. Am I in the wrong to be upset about this? He knows how bad the pill affects me and I’ve sent him loads of research on the snip from mens POV and they’re a no horror stories. AIBU? Any advice for either of us?

OP posts:
HighlandPony · 17/10/2022 14:58

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:50

He did offer when he thought I was pregnant . Then when I wasnt and went on the pill he changed his mind. Hence the post. Sorry I got defensive and people saying I should leave my partner of 10+ years. I know him, I don’t know you lot.

I’m not saying you should leave him. There are replies on here telling you that and I don’t agree with that either. My post wasn’t even completely at you when I said I don’t agree with forcing people into surgery. There’s a fair few replies encouraging that too.

Megifer · 17/10/2022 14:55

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:48

Probably due to the fact I took the first 200 comments with a pinch of salt and agreed people should have their own opinion.
Then I got pissed off of saying the same thing over and over again and having to defend my name.

Mumsnet is a discussion board, so lots of people posting and discussion evolves, people reply to others directly or to the 'general' opinion (which, when it comes to vasectomies seems to be the man just needs to stop being a wimp, needs sex withholding until he gives in, should do it because the woman has had the kids despite the fact that there's a biological reason the man can't "do his bit" in that respect)

As I say, I thought it was obvious I was responding generally, but I am sorry it didn't come across that way

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:50

HighlandPony · 17/10/2022 14:48

Point still stands. You offered and that’s fine. If he’d offered that would be fine too but he didn’t. I think you came at it wrong from the outset. The ‘I will stay on this until you get a vasectomy’. I can’t help but feel like the responses would be massively different if he had said something along those lines. Something like ‘I’ll continue to use condoms till you get your tubes tied’. That would cause uproar yet there’s other posters - not you - saying things like “he wouldn’t be my husband” or “I wouldn’t sleep with him till it was done” etc.

Can you imagine the slagging men would get over on the feminism boards for saying that stuff if the sexes were reversed?

He did offer when he thought I was pregnant . Then when I wasnt and went on the pill he changed his mind. Hence the post. Sorry I got defensive and people saying I should leave my partner of 10+ years. I know him, I don’t know you lot.

OP posts:
Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:48

Megifer · 17/10/2022 14:46

Wow op, sorry I thought it was obvious I wasn't directing my post (apart from yabu bit) at you, but all that stuff is usually what gets trotted out by people on these sorts of threads (and indeed has!)

bit surprised out of all the shitty comments you've had you lash out at mine which was pretty mild and not attacking you personally at all, I thought anyway.

Good luck to you hope it all works out either way.

Probably due to the fact I took the first 200 comments with a pinch of salt and agreed people should have their own opinion.
Then I got pissed off of saying the same thing over and over again and having to defend my name.

OP posts:
HighlandPony · 17/10/2022 14:48

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:32

God lord. Read what I have put. Who is forcing anyone? I have said I would get sterilised. Don’t comment on a thread without reading it all.

Point still stands. You offered and that’s fine. If he’d offered that would be fine too but he didn’t. I think you came at it wrong from the outset. The ‘I will stay on this until you get a vasectomy’. I can’t help but feel like the responses would be massively different if he had said something along those lines. Something like ‘I’ll continue to use condoms till you get your tubes tied’. That would cause uproar yet there’s other posters - not you - saying things like “he wouldn’t be my husband” or “I wouldn’t sleep with him till it was done” etc.

Can you imagine the slagging men would get over on the feminism boards for saying that stuff if the sexes were reversed?

Megifer · 17/10/2022 14:46

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:20

Who’s taking his body autonomy? Do you see me dragging him to the hospital and holding him down while they cut his scrotum?
Throughout this post I’ve been told I have no self respect cos I’m not threatening him to have one. and then you coming at me saying I’m taking his body autonomy. If your going to comment I think you need to at least give what I have posted a read.

At what point did I say ‘I’d done my part’? I offered an insight into our journey to parenthood. Never did I guilt trip him.
I read most of these comments with an open mind. Never did I expect to get attacked with hypothetical future women wanting his babies, or my potential death on my part and even my childrens potential death and ensuring we have the ability to pop more kids out if that happens. I’ve been told I have no self respect as I said I would never force my partner to have on and ive been told to withhold sex or even leave him if he won’t get a vasectomy.
I asked for peoples personal opinions on the matter, not to have myself slated or my relationship dragged through the mud.
Would just love to know if some of you would say some of these IRL to people. Some of you need your heads wobbling.

Wow op, sorry I thought it was obvious I wasn't directing my post (apart from yabu bit) at you, but all that stuff is usually what gets trotted out by people on these sorts of threads (and indeed has!)

bit surprised out of all the shitty comments you've had you lash out at mine which was pretty mild and not attacking you personally at all, I thought anyway.

Good luck to you hope it all works out either way.

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:39

If anyone even cares, or actually reads what has been said previously without posting their uneducated option on other peoples threads, my DP is going to speak the the GP and see if it’s for him. It’ll probably be over the phone so I’m going to listen in. If it doesn’t fit with us then he won’t get one. Next step I’ll looking into the affects of the coil on mental health. If that’s a no then I will get sterilised. Thought I liked mumsnet until I posted this. Honestly I’m blown away by some of the ignorant and hurtful comments some people feel that it‘s appropriate to say. I’m not a troll. Just a person who was struggling to find some guidance IRL so come to ask a wider audience.

Thank you

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girlmom21 · 17/10/2022 14:36

OP are you certain he's 100% done?

How would you both react if you found out you were pregnant again?

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:32

HighlandPony · 17/10/2022 14:31

I don’t believe in forcing someone into surgery sorry. I don’t take hormonal contraceptives either but there are other options either of you can use. How would you react if he asked you to get sterilised?

God lord. Read what I have put. Who is forcing anyone? I have said I would get sterilised. Don’t comment on a thread without reading it all.

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Ponderingwindow · 17/10/2022 14:31

women take the burden and risks of birth control and pregnancy for years. When a couple is done procreating, the man needs to take his turn. the female birth control options are higher risk than a vasectomy. A man who wants you to continue to take those risks should be a massive turn-off.

HighlandPony · 17/10/2022 14:31

I don’t believe in forcing someone into surgery sorry. I don’t take hormonal contraceptives either but there are other options either of you can use. How would you react if he asked you to get sterilised?

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 14:26

Kabalagala · 17/10/2022 14:08

Why on earth did he need 12 weeks off!

Because he had open surgery with 2 3-inch incisions on his pubic region on either side. He has a business that includes extremely heavy lifting and mobility.
Plus the op coincided with a 2-3 week holiday in the end.

The surgeon was very specific with his instructions due to the nature of his business. If you damage the internal sutures the op will fail. Post-op was fine, although 2 weeks ago a blood vessel burst and the whole area turned blue.
I know he says the wound is still sore, so he's not ready to resume gym or running yet.

Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 14:20

Megifer · 17/10/2022 12:59

Yabu

We need to be able to have autonomy over our bodies, and not feel pressured, guilt tripped or shamed into having procedures or things done that we don't want, whatever the reason.

I'm done with kids, don't want the pill/coil etc. I haven't used the old "I've done my part having kids" guilt trip because that just makes no sense. I don't want to get sterilised, he doesn't want a vasectomy (and we both know men who have had life long complications as a result.)

We use condoms and ovulation tracking and its worked for the last 10 years

Who’s taking his body autonomy? Do you see me dragging him to the hospital and holding him down while they cut his scrotum?
Throughout this post I’ve been told I have no self respect cos I’m not threatening him to have one. and then you coming at me saying I’m taking his body autonomy. If your going to comment I think you need to at least give what I have posted a read.

At what point did I say ‘I’d done my part’? I offered an insight into our journey to parenthood. Never did I guilt trip him.
I read most of these comments with an open mind. Never did I expect to get attacked with hypothetical future women wanting his babies, or my potential death on my part and even my childrens potential death and ensuring we have the ability to pop more kids out if that happens. I’ve been told I have no self respect as I said I would never force my partner to have on and ive been told to withhold sex or even leave him if he won’t get a vasectomy.
I asked for peoples personal opinions on the matter, not to have myself slated or my relationship dragged through the mud.
Would just love to know if some of you would say some of these IRL to people. Some of you need your heads wobbling.

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Kabalagala · 17/10/2022 14:08

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 13:45

So nothing but implication. They divorced 3-4yrs post surgery. The vasectomy is his only regret. The relationships across the new step family is perfect.

Snippy, you and others have been nothing but snippy.
Just to add the cost of reversal is around about the same cost as female sterilisation.
It's open surgery, with minimum 6 weeks off work, Dp took 12 weeks off. There has been a few complications post op. Test have proven the op has been a success.

I'll repeat I have every sympathy with the ops predicament. What I don't like is the bullying and man bashing.

Why on earth did he need 12 weeks off!

Herejustforthisone · 17/10/2022 14:06

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 13:45

So nothing but implication. They divorced 3-4yrs post surgery. The vasectomy is his only regret. The relationships across the new step family is perfect.

Snippy, you and others have been nothing but snippy.
Just to add the cost of reversal is around about the same cost as female sterilisation.
It's open surgery, with minimum 6 weeks off work, Dp took 12 weeks off. There has been a few complications post op. Test have proven the op has been a success.

I'll repeat I have every sympathy with the ops predicament. What I don't like is the bullying and man bashing.

The relationships across the new step family is perfect.

Ok. Not sure why you mentioned that she apparently didn’t appreciate his efforts by getting a vasectomy then, but ok. You obviously all get on like a house on fire…

snippy

The one person who should be snippy, is the OP’s husband. By having the vasectomy he said he’d have.

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 13:59

missmamiecuddleduck · 17/10/2022 13:50

I didn't think they did these anymore but did PESA or TESA procedures instead.

Which part are you referring to.
Reversals are done privately.
PESA, TESA, is part of the fertility umbrella procedure. These are also private procedures for those with children.

missmamiecuddleduck · 17/10/2022 13:50

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 13:45

So nothing but implication. They divorced 3-4yrs post surgery. The vasectomy is his only regret. The relationships across the new step family is perfect.

Snippy, you and others have been nothing but snippy.
Just to add the cost of reversal is around about the same cost as female sterilisation.
It's open surgery, with minimum 6 weeks off work, Dp took 12 weeks off. There has been a few complications post op. Test have proven the op has been a success.

I'll repeat I have every sympathy with the ops predicament. What I don't like is the bullying and man bashing.

I didn't think they did these anymore but did PESA or TESA procedures instead.

RubbishDay · 17/10/2022 13:45

KimberleyClark · 17/10/2022 13:01

female serialisation is linked with a slightly raised risk of ectopic pregnancy. That is life threatening.

The preferred method nowadays is full bilateral salpingectomy i.e total removal of the tubes, which I would have thought carries zero risk of ectopic.

Yes I was advised to have both tubes removed which reduced that risk plus I was also told this might reduce the risk of ovarian cancer later in life as they think some cancers might originate from them.

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 13:45

Herejustforthisone · 17/10/2022 13:00

I deduced it from, ”did she appreciate it? No.”

Just seemed oddly snippy if it’s about someone you don’t dislike, especially as you’re trying to get it reversed so you can have kids, and you say your partner did it for his ex wife. It stands to reason there’s be ill-feeling. Especially as she apparently didn’t ‘appreciate’ it.

So nothing but implication. They divorced 3-4yrs post surgery. The vasectomy is his only regret. The relationships across the new step family is perfect.

Snippy, you and others have been nothing but snippy.
Just to add the cost of reversal is around about the same cost as female sterilisation.
It's open surgery, with minimum 6 weeks off work, Dp took 12 weeks off. There has been a few complications post op. Test have proven the op has been a success.

I'll repeat I have every sympathy with the ops predicament. What I don't like is the bullying and man bashing.

2bazookas · 17/10/2022 13:36

Just tell him your vagina is taking a sabatical at a convent.

This will continue indefinitely. He has two options;

  1. vasectomy
  2. Becoming a Transwoman (full surgery + hormones+ wearing a dress to work)
Unanananana · 17/10/2022 13:33

KimberleyClark · 17/10/2022 13:12

It’s surely discriminatory for health authorities not to fund female sterilisation and refuse women the same opportunity to take control and responsibility for their fertility as men.

You'd think so, but it all boils down to cost. Female sterilisation costs more.

They give no shits about removing our choices or subjecting us to abortions/hormonal contraception/unwanted children. Its all about money.

God bless this Tory government.

Druamber · 17/10/2022 13:19

He's being unreasonable. I had 3 coils over the years as hormonal contraception messed me up. However, it was MASSIVELY painful both being put in and taken out as i have a tilted uterus and apparently, as the doctor said, a very tight cervix!

After the last time i refused to have any more fitted. We both hate condoms.

Dh took forever to book a vasectomy, we ended up with a baby. Day after positive test he booked his vasectomy!!

He did find it painful and took him a good month to feel back to normal, but no sympathy from me. Coils being fitted, csection and vaginal births, plus a painful disabilitydue to a bad pregnancyand birth - he just had to get on with it. I was done.

He now loves it as neither of us have to worry.

KimberleyClark · 17/10/2022 13:12

It’s surely discriminatory for health authorities not to fund female sterilisation and refuse women the same opportunity to take control and responsibility for their fertility as men.

Unanananana · 17/10/2022 13:09

Refusing to have or 'witholding' have sex is not abusive. He is not entitled to use your body to ejaculate into.

The health authority in my area do not fund female sterilisation. I pushed hard as a 35 year old woman with two children and they said no. Repeatedly.

Current partner had the snip (six weeks from referral to op, same health authority). Took about twenty minutes, no stitches whatsoever and he was uncomfortable for a couple of days, mostly from the tight pants he had to wear.

If you both want sex with little risk of babies, its condoms or the snip. Squeamish doesn't excuse him. You and your body have done enough.

Herejustforthisone · 17/10/2022 13:02

I’m a little disconcerted that the OP is being criticised for not respecting his bodily autonomy by asking him to have a vasectomy, but also being called abusive for potentially withholding sex when he refuses m, and she’s had enough of impacting her own health with pregnancies, miscarriages and contraception.