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To ask my partner for a vasectomy

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Foreveranxious22 · 17/10/2022 06:28

Ok so this is something that keeps coming up with me and my partner and I would like some impartial advice if you have any please.
My and DP have been together 10+ years, 2DC. Not an easy time getting here as I have had multiple miscarriages so I know I’m done having children.
I am super sensitive to contraceptives, I’ve already been on two after having my DD 6 months ago. I get very moody, have whiplash mood swings and sometimes I’m bordering on depressed. I was like this after my first daughter too so I know it’s related to the pill.

Last month we had a pregnancy scare as I had come of my previous pill as I wasn’t myself. This scared us so I agreed I’d try another pill and after advice from my GP I’m currently on rigevidon but same old story as previous contraception. I have mentioned a vasectomy to my DP before but he’s said no as he’s very very squeamish. I made a deal with him when I went on rigevidon that I’d continue taking it so long as he got booked in with the GP for a vasectomy as it can take 52 weeks in our area on the NHS. He’s not even rang the docs and has now changed his tune saying he won’t get one. Am I in the wrong to be upset about this? He knows how bad the pill affects me and I’ve sent him loads of research on the snip from mens POV and they’re a no horror stories. AIBU? Any advice for either of us?

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tirednewmumm · 17/10/2022 07:46

I struggled with all versions of the pill but feel great on the implant.
You can have the depo injection first as it's the same hormones but only lasts 12 weeks so if you react well you know you'll have a good chance of a good reaction to the implant. I don't get periods with it which is great.
That being said we're on the waiting list for a vasectomy and your dh needs to man up or forgo sex

Notplayingball · 17/10/2022 07:46

Wasn't a difficult decision for my DH as we had no4 who was premature, didn't ever want to go through all that again. Both of us. He had it done when youngest was 6mo. Huge relief to never have to worry again at our ages (40s).

YellowTreeHouse · 17/10/2022 07:46

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I haven’t read any other replies but I’m going to assume by this you don’t think it’s possible for two people to have the same opinion if it differs from yours.

StupidSmallFruit · 17/10/2022 07:45

Herejustforthisone · 17/10/2022 07:42

You wouldn’t consider a small procedure that is now done in GPs surgeries, to prevent your wife having to endure anymore hormonal contraceptions, having had miscarriages and gone through two labours?

I agree with the poster you’re laying into. Decent men would just do it.

Thank you for your support Flowers

But don’t worry about me - as I said in my first post on this thread - to anyone who wants to disagree with me on this issue, bring it on. Wink

I am crystal clear that men who opt are are the very definition of pathetic.

girlmom21 · 17/10/2022 07:45

YellowTreeHouse · 17/10/2022 07:40

YABU. You can’t force someone into a surgery they don’t want, nor should you try to because of reasons.

He’s said no. The answer is no and you need to accept it.

So you either need to get the procedure done yourself or use another form of contraception.

Withdrawing sex as a means to force someone into something they don’t want to do is abuse.

Withdrawing sex is not a form of abuse. How often do we say on here that a man who's not ready to take the risk of having a child shouldn't be having sex?

Your approach is forcing a woman to do things she doesn't want to do for her own physical and mental health after she's already gone through multiple pregnancies and miscarriages, but sure, let's tell her she's abusing her husband by not wanting to do that again.

CanYouPickItUp · 17/10/2022 07:45

I posted the same question, with a similar backstory, a few years ago and absolutely got my arse handed to me. It's interesting to see the difference in responses.

TheWitchersWife · 17/10/2022 07:44

The reason I asked unthread as to the age of the Op and her partner is if under 40, I’m not sure I’d entertain either being sterilised. You just don’t know what the future holds. Worst case scenario op or her husband suddenly pass away and husband/wife meets someone else and wants to start another family. These things do happen.

Part of the reason I was happy for my DH to have a vasectomy so young was because I don't want him to have children with other people.
I have half siblings and step parents and it's made life so much harder (step parents more than the half siblings tbh).
And I've seen all the parenting boards of people struggling being step parents, with new children being favoured.
If I tragically died tomorrow, I like to think my DH would put the needs of our current children first. Not be off finding a new wife and concentrating on making more children with her, which in turn would create even more chaos in a horrific time for our actual children.
I like that he's thought about the future for our current children and these 2 are enough for him.

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woff45 · 17/10/2022 07:43

Similar situation, DH not entirely comfortable with it but equally understands it's the most sensible and fairest solution for us. Obviously I can't force him, it's his choice, but equally we have chatted and he accepts how one sided contraception and related issues have been to date and thankfully he's a good man!

(And just to add I've gotten pregnant on the copper coil and get some symptoms so whilst it's been a good option through my 20s and 30s, I'm done now!)

StupidSmallFruit · 17/10/2022 07:43

Withdrawing sex as a means to force someone into something they don’t want to do is abuse.

Whereas having PIV sex with a women, while expecting her to carry 100% of the contraceptive load and opting out ENTIRELY is really …. what …. noble….?

Herejustforthisone · 17/10/2022 07:42

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 07:32

Certainly, if I were a man, I wouldn't do it for you. Any need to call people pathetic. There are numerous women on this thread who wanted their partners to sterilize themselves. They refused, and they're now not together.
Good call on the part of the men.

You wouldn’t consider a small procedure that is now done in GPs surgeries, to prevent your wife having to endure anymore hormonal contraceptions, having had miscarriages and gone through two labours?

I agree with the poster you’re laying into. Decent men would just do it.

Weirdlynormal · 17/10/2022 07:41

My DH was being difficult about this, but then realised it was killing our marriage.
I knew he was being stubborn (he later admitted it). No he didn’t like the idea, but I went through hell having our kids and was done messing with my body.

men need to step up if they are committed to the relationship.

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 17/10/2022 07:41

Withdrawing sex as a means to force someone into something they don’t want to do is abuse

Oh my god. Have I honestly just read this? Have I stumbled onto www.pick-me-handmaiden.net?

WhatsErFace2020 · 17/10/2022 07:41

OP I could’ve written this myself! We only use condoms now and just this month it somehow came off inside me without us knowing. Cue me having to have to take the MAP. I am really disappointed in DH that he won’t do this for our family when He watched me almost die having our youngest. It’s a really selfish attitude these men have that it’s not their responsibility.

women are fertile for a few days a month, men are fertile all the time...yet the majority of contraception was developed for women...BY MEN 🙄

StupidSmallFruit · 17/10/2022 07:40

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 07:37

You have proven in your last two posts to be an unpleasant individual.

🤷🏻‍♀️

YellowTreeHouse · 17/10/2022 07:40

YABU. You can’t force someone into a surgery they don’t want, nor should you try to because of reasons.

He’s said no. The answer is no and you need to accept it.

So you either need to get the procedure done yourself or use another form of contraception.

Withdrawing sex as a means to force someone into something they don’t want to do is abuse.

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 17/10/2022 07:40

I'm another "unpleasant individual" too then! I do think these men are pathetic and I have a similar opinion of the women who jump in to defend them.

Herejustforthisone · 17/10/2022 07:39

Oh. I’m tired and wrote that wrong. You’re obviously not pathetic, he is.

Herejustforthisone · 17/10/2022 07:38

It’s time for him to step up. You’ve been through a lot and trying different hormonal contraceptives, all of which are making you ill, just so he doesn’t have to have a 3mm cut in his nut sack, is pathetic.

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 07:37

StupidSmallFruit · 17/10/2022 07:35

And yes, I categorically do think such men are pathetic. No question.

I am sorry for any woman in the position of having to defend such men.

You have proven in your last two posts to be an unpleasant individual.

dammit88 · 17/10/2022 07:36

BrewNbiscuit · 17/10/2022 07:30

If this question was the other way around there would be outrage at the idea of pressuring / coercing a woman into having non-essential surgery against her will. His body: his choice.

However, that said, you also have choices. You know that he doesn’t want a vasectomy, and you know that you don’t want a pregnancy or hormonal contraceptives, so your options are:

  • non-hormonal contraception
  • abstinence
  • female sterilisation

In an ideal works you would be able to discuss it and reach a decision as a couple, but really neither of you has the right to force or pressure the other to do something they feel uncomfortable with or will be adversely affected by.

This really. No one should be forced to have surgery they do not want. But it means you have to then look at the other options and remove those that are not acceptable to you, which is also very valid, and see what is left.

How old is he?

Kabalagala · 17/10/2022 07:35

Sirzy · 17/10/2022 07:30

dont Men also have bodily autonomy though? I don’t like the idea of anyone being pressured into any medical procedure against their will.

there are other options it just needs sensible conversations

Snip it, wrap it up or don't come near me.
After decades of pills, pregnancies and breastfeeding I didn't feel at bad pressuring him into a medical procedure. Not that I had to, it was his idea.

StupidSmallFruit · 17/10/2022 07:35

And yes, I categorically do think such men are pathetic. No question.

I am sorry for any woman in the position of having to defend such men.

StupidSmallFruit · 17/10/2022 07:34

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 07:32

Certainly, if I were a man, I wouldn't do it for you. Any need to call people pathetic. There are numerous women on this thread who wanted their partners to sterilize themselves. They refused, and they're now not together.
Good call on the part of the men.

Certainly the women are well shot of such sub-standard specimen.

RedAppleGirl · 17/10/2022 07:32

StupidSmallFruit · 17/10/2022 07:20

No decent man needs to be ‘forced’.

Decent men are happy to do it.

Certainly, if I were a man, I wouldn't do it for you. Any need to call people pathetic. There are numerous women on this thread who wanted their partners to sterilize themselves. They refused, and they're now not together.
Good call on the part of the men.