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27 years old, parents opening my post

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Lily9915 · 09/10/2022 01:47

Hi just a brief background, I live at home with ds1 and dd2 with my mum and step dad. I was due to move out but relationship broke down. Ever since I have been trying to find appropriate housing but I am on the housing list and it’s just a waiting game. I am in no doubt denying I have debt, but I believe it to be my own problem to deal with. It’s the likes of credit cards, old debts wanting a monthly payment but of course they send letters regularly. I’ve come home from work recently to find that my letters have either been opened or even been confronted by my mum and quizzed on what the debt is and why I have it. Made to feel like a 5 year old. My step dad even took some of my letters to my mum as they arrived from the post man and told her to open them so they can find out who they’re from. Am I being unreasonable to think this is an absolute joke?? With regards to step dad I don’t really get on with him a great deal but for the sake of my mum I make the effort.

OP posts:
cestlavielife · 09/10/2022 09:45

(3)A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person's detriment and without reasonable excuse, he opens a postal packet which he knows or reasonably suspects has been incorrectly delivered to him.
www.legislation.gov.uk › part
Cross Heading: Offences of interfering with the mail - Postal Services Act 2000

Reasonable excuse
Could be concern about bailiffs coming and removing their tv

Move out
Live your own life
Move area

Lily9915 · 09/10/2022 09:44

@rageapplied there is no mortgage on the house, it is also nothing to do with my stepdad he just moved in here. And as I’ve said I contribute a fair amount to the bills and buy my own food and the likes.

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Readmorebooks · 09/10/2022 09:43

How old are your children? In your first post I thought they were 1 and 2 but now understand that probably just means 1st and 2nd. But your youngest is only 11 months so that's only one in school - how old is he?
I do understand that opening your mail is awful and inappropriate and illegal. But honestly, living at home, not paying rent (I know you contribute to bills etc), not able to save enough to pay off your debts - I know you said your mum is happy with this situation but the vast majority of parents would not be and your stepdad must (understandably) be very frustrated.
The debt won't impact on your ability to find private rented accommodation (it might impact on your ability to afford the rent). I think you should move to a cheaper area - you only have one child of school age and presumably he is in early primary school so it won't affect him significantly plus other costs like nursery might be cheaper too - and start to become a self reliant adult...

rageapplied · 09/10/2022 09:40

If you're paying them a fair rent and paying for you and your children's proportion of the bills Then they're not financially subsidising you. But it doesn't seem like this is the case?

Lily9915 · 09/10/2022 09:39

@mountainsunsets as I stated after that I did mention the roof over my head which I am grateful for. I do a lot in return to help them out too. But with regards to food, paying for my children I pay for this myself and as I’ve stated I contribute to the bills.

OP posts:
Lily9915 · 09/10/2022 09:36

I lived away

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Bestcatmum · 09/10/2022 09:28

I can only imagine how furious my DS would be if I opened his post. I wouldn't dare.
I agree with another poster who said go paper free and make sure everything is online so they can't snoop.

Singlebutmarried · 09/10/2022 09:26

lannistunut · 09/10/2022 07:33

They shouldn't open your post but your debts do affect them as a) it affects your ability to move out or contribute whilst living there and b) your credit rating affects their credit rating whilst you share a home.

Not unless they share a bank account.

source: I regularly review credit reports as part of my job

MoniJitchell · 09/10/2022 09:26

They are being unreasonable to open your mail, but you are unreasonable to not take responsibility for yourself and your children. I would be really unhappy if my DD had debt collection letters coming to my address, this can impact they credit file of everyone at the address. Have you ever lived away from your parents or have you continued to have children while still living at your parents house?

mountainsunsets · 09/10/2022 09:25

I don’t think people are reading the whole thread or what I’ve said. They don’t provide for me or help me financially

Of course they do! Without them, you'd be homeless.

Lily9915 · 09/10/2022 09:22

I don’t think people are reading the whole thread or what I’ve said. They don’t provide for me or help me financially, the roof over my head which I’ve said I am grateful for is my childhood home of which I contribute to the bills of. I’ve already said there is a lack of boundaries in other aspects apart from Mail opening.

Yes I work but have only just gone back to work (my daughter is 11 months) and is now in nursery. I have admitted I have debt, I have set up minimum payments and will increase them as I see how I manage over the next few months, I thought this was best rather than setting up higher payments which I then end up missing.

I have told my mum about my debt, the letter opening began with a hospital letter not a debt letter, I am actively trying to move out. It’s not as simple as ‘just move out’. If it was I would have done that.

and with regards to irresponsible lending, I was advised to do this by a debt group I am in on Facebook which can help get the interest removed.

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Cats23 · 09/10/2022 09:20

WeAreTheHeroes · 09/10/2022 03:44

I'd be very tempted to open some of theirs just to make the point as they won't like it.

I agree with this!
Tell them they are not topen your letters at all from now on.

I'd look to get them redirected too- A friend/Family member

girlmom21 · 09/10/2022 09:17

Autumnisclose · 09/10/2022 09:15

@girlmom21 you seem to have misunderstood, I was just answering the posters question re how many children the OP has, I wasn't making any other point so there was no need for your catty remark. Being in debt doesn't automatically mean the parents can't act as a guarantor so it's a reasonable suggestion.

My remark wasn't catty. I don't do 'catty'. Yours was snide.

To be a guarantor you have to prove you could pay rent if the renter defaults. How are they going to do that?

fairydust11 · 09/10/2022 09:17

What they’re doing is illegal, but you are 27 with 2 children & still living with your mum?
If you don’t like it move out.
It sounds an awful situation.

Autumnisclose · 09/10/2022 09:15

@girlmom21 you seem to have misunderstood, I was just answering the posters question re how many children the OP has, I wasn't making any other point so there was no need for your catty remark. Being in debt doesn't automatically mean the parents can't act as a guarantor so it's a reasonable suggestion.

ThinkingForEveryone · 09/10/2022 09:12

It is not unreasonable to expect your post to remain unopened.
I think you are unreasonable to be trying to stay in an area you can't afford, regardless of debt.
If you are only 27 now I'm assuming your children are in lower years primary school? A move to a different school would hardly be traumatic for them especially if it means you finally get a home of your own.

Waterfallgirl · 09/10/2022 09:10

They are overstepping massively.
Re post can you get your letters redirected via Royal Mail service to a sibling or Friends house?

GloriousGlory · 09/10/2022 08:58

Mercedes519 · 09/10/2022 08:33

Unless you share any financial accounts the OPs debt has NO impact on her parents. Bailiffs can only seize assets that they can prove belong to the debtor. And as she has debts of a couple of hundred and have set up a payment plan it’s is highly unlikely to happen.

OP, listen to the people saying it’s illegal. It might be concern but it might also be a lack of boundaries and a view that you’re a child and therefore it’s OK to pry.

Sounds like you need to have a sensible conversation with both of them, especially if you’re unable to move. You both need to agree a way of sharing a house and lives that works for both of you.

No impact? A bailiff knocking on the door has no impact? Having to prove what's yours, no impact?

Endlesssummer2022 · 09/10/2022 08:54

It’s true that debt is linked to names but names are linked to addresses. I know this because my DM had a lodger who ran up debt and intimidating bailiffs kept coming to HER door demanding to know where he was and asking intrusive questions as though she was partly responsible/lying. They also said they would keep returning. This caused a lot of distress.

I also worked in a call centre during uni a good while back which financed white goods for Curry’s. Addresses with CCJs would get flagged for further investigation.

Nobody wants this kind of aggro. It’s unfair to put the DM in this situation.

mountainsunsets · 09/10/2022 08:44

@GCAcademic credit ratings are linked to names, not addresses.

Mercedes519 · 09/10/2022 08:33

Unless you share any financial accounts the OPs debt has NO impact on her parents. Bailiffs can only seize assets that they can prove belong to the debtor. And as she has debts of a couple of hundred and have set up a payment plan it’s is highly unlikely to happen.

OP, listen to the people saying it’s illegal. It might be concern but it might also be a lack of boundaries and a view that you’re a child and therefore it’s OK to pry.

Sounds like you need to have a sensible conversation with both of them, especially if you’re unable to move. You both need to agree a way of sharing a house and lives that works for both of you.

Butchyrestingface · 09/10/2022 08:25

How long have you been living with your parents, @Lily9915 ? Have your children always lived there?

The situation sounds untenable. I doubt they'll stop opening your mail no matter what you say, so the only solution would be be to go paper free wrt bills, and prioritise paying off the debts asap so you can move out. Whether your mother wants you to stay is neither here nor there. Your relationship with your parents may improve when you can put a bit of physical distance between you all

rageapplied · 09/10/2022 08:15

@LovedFedAndNoonesDead I just asked the question? If she's still in so much debt and hasn't saved whilst living with her parents (and she should already be claiming UC just not the rent element) then she's going to struggle when she moves out.

user6363 · 09/10/2022 08:13

YANBU - I live with my parents (also moved in due to a break up and I will move out in the next few months but we love living together) and the only time they’ve opened my post is when I’ve actively asked them to e.g. medical ones that have arrived when I’ve been out. They would never invade my privacy.
I had a small amount of debt which I was able to pay off from living with them and saving. I can understand why your mum wants to know about your financial situation if she’s sort of paying for you in any way but opening post is wrong.

LovedFedAndNoonesDead · 09/10/2022 08:09

rageapplied · 09/10/2022 07:43

How are you going to pay your bills as well as service your debt if you are allocated a council house?

Presumably the OP would, like millions of others, be able to claim UC including personal allowance, 2 children and rent elements (which she can’t while living at parents home unless
shes also on the tenancy!) and then have a deduction for wages earned. The amount she’d receive would go towards rent, council tax and other bills and then wages would go towards food, other expenses and towards debts!!

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