What do you count as a 'professional' job?

This is what i think it means too.

Someone who can set their own fee for a skilled requirement

"Anyone that works in an office" how is that a professional! A professional is a GP, surgeon, judge, teacher, police office etc

'Being professional' is something you would hope everyone is doing at work regardless of role.

'A profession' to me is something else. I'm an AHP (allied health profession) - I had to do a specific training degree to gain my title, pay my prof body, prove yearly I'm still worthy of the title and the title could get stripped from me and I couldn't then call myself.

Being related to office is absurd. Have you seen where and how doctors / consultant, physio, SLTs etc have to work in hospitals? Mostly on their feet all day, standing up to write notes with no base to work from!

A professional regulator. i.e. if someone behaves in a way that is incompatible with their role, they can be removed from a register and prevented from working in that role again. e.g. doctors (GMC), nurses (NMC), solicitors (SRA), etc. Anyone who is not bound by enforceable professional standards is not a professional, in my opinion.

Anything that requires specific qualifications in order to do that job.

So not just a generic degree, but a law degree, a degree in medicine, teaching qualifications and training etc.

This

When it comes to landlords seeking professionals as tenants it normally just means a 9-5 office worker. You need professional qualifications to be a plumber or a blacksmith or a mechanic but they don’t want them types 😉

Yes, professional qualification, probably some kind of professional association, but not a trade.

Agree

And it can be removed.

To clarify above- being a teacher and having QTS is an awarded status and not a qualification and it can be removed. It is a profession.

@Llamapalma usually Dr, Teacher, Accountant, solicitor; that is what it used to be. Think it can now be a Director or Company Sec as well. For a rough idea, have a look on .gov and see who can sign your photo for a passport!

I’m not sure but would probably say any job involving being registered to practice, and with a risk of being ‘struck off’ for malpractice/negligence etc

What's your thought OP?

‘Professions’ and ‘professionals’ are different.

I’d argue that ‘professions’ and ‘the professions’ are different too.

Interesting point about registration for blue collar workers such as electricians and plumbers. This is why I used ‘office based’ in my own definition. (I deliberately didn’t want to say white collar originally).

Professional or amateur.

Professional = qualified for the job.

Amateur = doing the job without qualifications.

Can be paid for both

I definitely agree that my office based definition is subjective.

And I think that is what the OP is getting at - we do have subjective ideas about this rather than just dictionary definitions.

A dentist, yes a profession. They, like doctors, have consulting rooms.

But nurses don’t. Seeing a nurse is quite a modern thing (to my mind at least). Historically, they did not practice independently of a doctor. Perhaps an degree of autonomy is also part of my definition? Or, perhaps they didn’t practice independently because registration didn’t exist to allow it but things have changed and my definition of professions hasn’t.

I think it's an outdated term.
Electricians and plumbers need qualifications and certifications. They are skilled jobs. Do they count?
Doctors don't work in offices.
Journalists? They do work in offices but don't necessarily require formal education.
Is it a matter of working with your head as opposed to your hands?
Athletes can turn professional too.

No. 'The professions' tend to mean specifically roles such as doctors, teacher, lawyers etc which aren't in business or industry. But it's wrong to suppose that business and industry don't employ 'professionals'!

A profession is different to a job. A profession is something you have whether or not you are employed. For example, by profession he is an architect but currently working in retail.

Being a member of a professional body (usually requiring some kind of entry qualification - a degree, diploma etc) and some kind of oversight on Continued Professional Development I.e. further training. Not the same as having a "job" and working your way up (not that there is anything wrong with that). It is not about money.

A role that requires a degree or equivalent and professional registration with a professional body.

What about a dentist? They are based in a surgery or a hospital.

So is a doctor.

So is a nurse.

I’m not sure that ‘office based’ is that helpful here.

Not necessarily 'office based' - surely chartered engineers are professionals by objective definitions?

What jobs do you think are professions Which are not professions?

Aside medicine, dentistry, law…

Nursing? Teaching? Allied health roles?