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To not understand why double barrel surnames are so wrong/bizarre to some people?

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CarsonViolet · 28/09/2022 12:07

So I recently registered the birth of my first child and gave him a double barelled surname. His name layout is Daniel Eric (My surname) (DHs surname). (None of these are actually my son's name just an example!)

In laws were visiting yesterday and were having a look at his birth certificate and were disappointed to see the surname. We did tell them that my name would be in there but apparently they just assumed it was a middle name 🙄

Cue all the 'concerns' and old fashioned twaddle about "It's just nicer and easier" and "what happens when he marries someone with a double barrel name" blah blah blah.

Am I being silly to have assumed that this crap was dead? Sure people have their own opinions on what they would personally do but to tell other people off about it?

Wanted a rant more than anything tbh but I just find it so bizarre that women wanting to share a surname with the child they carried and birthed is still contentious to some people 🤔

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EL8888 · 28/09/2022 17:13

moonfacebaby · 28/09/2022 12:34

My kids are double-barrelled - largely because there’s no way in hell I was going to carry a child, give birth to it and then let just the fathers name be that child’s surname. Fuck that!

I also insisted we double-barrelled when we got married.

Yes, my surname and my kids is a mouthful - but why should it default to the father of the child’s name??

Well, exactly! I’m pregnant and getting married shortly. It’s depressing how many people assume lm taking my fiancé’s name and so is our child. We are going double barrelled. I’m the one who had had a world of IVF, been pregnant (it hasn’t especially agreed me so far!) and then will be giving birth. I don’t care if people thinks it’s stupid or an annoying fad

Shade17 · 28/09/2022 17:11

It’s the absolute height of pretentious twattery.

RedWingBoots · 28/09/2022 17:11

Palmfrond · 28/09/2022 17:07

I’m not sure what the naming protocols of Spain have to do with a predominantly British forum, but in any case children in Spain take their grandfathers’ name, ie the name of the father’s father and the name of the mother’s father, so really not the great blow against the patriarchy one might like to imagine.

Plenty of people in the UK, especially in cities, have names that don't originate from the UK.

ByJoveMaryPoppins · 28/09/2022 17:08

Are people really that bothered? I have never heard anyone say a negative word about anyone with a DB name, other than Rees-Mogg that is lol (but not name related I add)

It is up to you what you call your children, but the only thing that concerns me is the need for validation on this from you OP

Courage of convictions does not need validation. You do not need this thread

Palmfrond · 28/09/2022 17:07

I’m not sure what the naming protocols of Spain have to do with a predominantly British forum, but in any case children in Spain take their grandfathers’ name, ie the name of the father’s father and the name of the mother’s father, so really not the great blow against the patriarchy one might like to imagine.

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2022 17:07

ShesThunderstorms · 28/09/2022 17:02

I always find this topic interesting. The majority of adult women having babies now either have their own dads last name or their husbands. Totally acknowledge that isn't the case for everyone but I assume it is for most people.
So I can't really get het up about it being a feminist issue when it's usually two blokes names you're fighting over anyway.

No. This is the classic mistake - why do you think a woman's name is her father's name? Why is it not just her name?

It's her father's birth name and her birth name so why do you automatically say it's his? Men don't own names! Without wanting to be rude, you need to check your internalised misogyny.

Hillrunning · 28/09/2022 17:07

ShesThunderstorms · 28/09/2022 17:02

I always find this topic interesting. The majority of adult women having babies now either have their own dads last name or their husbands. Totally acknowledge that isn't the case for everyone but I assume it is for most people.
So I can't really get het up about it being a feminist issue when it's usually two blokes names you're fighting over anyway.

It often won't just be thier dad's name though will it? If thier mother made a decision to take her husbands name then it belongs to both parents when the child is born. So they both pass it on.

Flangelasashes · 28/09/2022 17:06

I think it was big once but people are beginning to cop on and just pick one name. It's very "try-hard" and a little cringe.

Amy Louise Robinson- Radford.

No Morto.

Hillrunning · 28/09/2022 17:04

I have a double barrel name without a hypen and get lots of snide remarks about being a modern woman. The joy for me is telling them that is have been double barrel in my family since about 1787 so it's actually ancient. Takes the wind right out of their ignorant sails!

ShesThunderstorms · 28/09/2022 17:02

I always find this topic interesting. The majority of adult women having babies now either have their own dads last name or their husbands. Totally acknowledge that isn't the case for everyone but I assume it is for most people.
So I can't really get het up about it being a feminist issue when it's usually two blokes names you're fighting over anyway.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 28/09/2022 16:57

MadDogg2020 · 28/09/2022 16:48

OP you only want people to agree with you - dontcha?

High Salary career on MN all afternoon monitoring your thread? Pull the other one

Snide. No need for that at all.

oldwhyno · 28/09/2022 16:55

Double barreling is very common in Spain and Portugal, where there are almost as many divorces as marriages.

CarsonViolet · 28/09/2022 16:55

MadDogg2020 · 28/09/2022 16:48

OP you only want people to agree with you - dontcha?

High Salary career on MN all afternoon monitoring your thread? Pull the other one

Well one of the best things about a fantastic career is the brilliant maternity leave benefits and pay, so I am rather enjoying being paid to have a natter on mumsnet with a 4 week old in my arms 😂Cheers!

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RedWingBoots · 28/09/2022 16:53

@MadDogg2020 on the other hand I can be up past midnight finishing something or having a meeting with people in a different time zone.

With WFH it's loads easier than it use to be.

RedWingBoots · 28/09/2022 16:51

MadDogg2020 · 28/09/2022 16:48

OP you only want people to agree with you - dontcha?

High Salary career on MN all afternoon monitoring your thread? Pull the other one

Plenty of high waged desk-bound careers involve project work, working for certain hours or working to certain dates, with down time in between. However you have to be available during certain hours in case an urgent issue crops up.

So it is very easy for myself and a lot of people I know to spend anything from an hour to a few days surfing the web.

MadDogg2020 · 28/09/2022 16:48

OP you only want people to agree with you - dontcha?

High Salary career on MN all afternoon monitoring your thread? Pull the other one

gatehouseoffleet · 28/09/2022 16:48

Maybe we should move to a variation on the Icelandic system. But instead of being your father's son or daughter, you're your father's son and your mother's daughter (the non-binary crowd won't like that but who cares, this isn't going to happen anyway).

So you have a couple Peter and Mary.

Their son Michael is called Michael Peterson and his sister is called Lucy Marysdaughter. And you keep your name when you get married.

If you only have one child or children of one sex, one parent loses out but that's swings and roundabouts.

I think it's a lot more progressive but then most things in Iceland are.

MadDogg2020 · 28/09/2022 16:47

CarsonViolet · 28/09/2022 16:37

Fair enough. I'm sure my DS will cry hard about this as he lives in a large, beautiful home with two parents with high salary careers and enjoys a private education.

Shame that his council estate DB name will blind him to such privileges. 😂

Good luck with that

Ponderingwindow · 28/09/2022 16:44

DH and I are married. We each kept our name because changing your name is strange. Our child has my surname. No need for mothers to be pushed aside.

JassyRadlett · 28/09/2022 16:43

medusawashere · 28/09/2022 15:37

The whole "oh, it's only your dad's name anyway" thing really grinds my gears. It implies that only men's surnames are permanent and belong to them. My "maiden name" was MY name from the moment that register was signed by my parents. Mine. Mine to keep or change however I want.

Nah. Names are like magnets that only attach to Y chromosomes. Women don't get names.

Twizbe · 28/09/2022 16:41

G5000 · 28/09/2022 14:58

but he wasn't keen.

It seems to be the case for many who protest how common and complicated and naff it is. I've also had plenty of IRL comments that the mother wanted their name or at least both, but DH refused so of course he got what he wanted..

Tbf to him, I said it more in jest than anything.

I liked my old surname but I didn't see it as something massively important to my identity. Not like my first name. I'd never change that. I've had my 'new' surname now for over a decade. I like it.

CarsonViolet · 28/09/2022 16:37

MadDogg2020 · 28/09/2022 16:32

Just sounds very Council Estate, bruv

Fair enough. I'm sure my DS will cry hard about this as he lives in a large, beautiful home with two parents with high salary careers and enjoys a private education.

Shame that his council estate DB name will blind him to such privileges. 😂

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brogueish · 28/09/2022 16:34

My mother's family had a tradition of giving the first born of the generation their maternal grandmother's surname as a middle name. I'm afraid I broke with that tradition though.

MadDogg2020 · 28/09/2022 16:32

Just sounds very Council Estate, bruv

brogueish · 28/09/2022 16:30

@MsPincher
"They’re the only ones in their class with a double barrel- I say if anyone asks, tell them your mums a feminist."

Love that!