To try and get my neighbours committed

I have a friend with 2 under 5, the noise is incredible. When they leave it feels like the house is silent, even with my 1. I would not underestimate the noise your children make.

I have lived in several flats and I don’t understand how they would know. I could tell where upstairs neighbours were but downstairs neighbours, never. I wonder if they are just a bit noisy and your anxiety has latched onto it and has created this idea of them following you? Regardless your only option is to move because frankly I am not sure anyone would believe you. You can’t just “get people sectioned” (really horrible you are even asking) even if what you believe about them is true.

Im afraid I'd have to agree with this. As a clinician I have worked with a similar case and the person making the claim was ultimately the one who went on to have a hospital admission. OP, please have a long think about the likelihood of all this. How do the neighbours know where you are? It's likely if it's lunch time, you'll be both be kitchen areas. Mid afternoon, both lounge areas unless you are working. Mornings and night, bedrooms. Upstairs neighbours do make noise. That's life.

I'd pop to the GP. I'd also move if its causing you such a problem. I can't see why the flat value needs to be impacted. It's just a normal flat with people moving around upstairs. If you believe they are harassing you specifically, there's no reason to suspect they'd harass someone else. Nothing to devalue the flat.

Two children under 5 must get pretty noisy to be fair. I really can see there may be another story here.

How would they even know what room you're in? Unless you are making noise yourself?

It sounds as though they're pissed off about something and are making a point to make as much noise as possible back.

Either that, or it's just normal flat noise and you've been overthinking it too much to the point you now think they're tracing your every move.
You say you work from home, do you spend most of your time indoors?

Have you spoken to them outside of the flat?

So strange.

At any point have you actually spoke to the upstairs neighbours whether it be at the beginning or now about what is happening?

If they're above you how do you hear you moving enough o know what exact room you're in? I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, surely they aren't really doing this

Can you explain a bit more OP? How can they tell where you are when WFH ? When you are going about your normal life's - how much noise are you making ?

I'm another that doesn't understand how they know where you are in the flat if they live above you?

I work in the antisocial behaviour team for a social landlord and I'm afraid to say, when a complainant says their neighbour is "following them around the flat" this usually leads the complainant being the one who is mentally unwell and attributing the sounds of daily living noise to a malicious intent. There is no way your neighbour knows what room you are in unless YOU are the one being noisy.

As for recourse. You have to complete noise diary sheets for environmental health and they will decide if they display enough disruption to install noise monitoring equipment. Also check if your council uses the noise app..

But walking around, moving about and dropping things is daily living noise. The onus is on you to prove it if you believe there is a malicious intent behind this. But as I say, in my experience its usually the complainant who is the one having issues.

Exactly my though. There could well be a trigger making them behave the way they are.

Go back to the council and ask for a noise recorder. Most councils own at least one. Keep up with a diary of times and events.

Go to your GP as you are suffering from anxiety which will continue even if the neighbours move out tomorrow.

You have my sympathy, excess noise can be horrendous.

Two children under 5, are you quite sure that it's not you guys making all the noise?

May sound odd but having a lot of experience living in flats with people both above and below me my first thought was you say you have children, what if the people upstairs were actually getting noise transferance from you and they are following you into the rooms and stomping about to make a point because they keep getting noise from you? Is it possible that this could have begun by then being disturbed by noise coming from your flat?

I believe you. Everyone here lives in opposite land, whatever the subject is.

Tbf i can hear my downstairs neighbour enough to work out where he is in his flat when he's in.

That sounds awful OP.

Go back to the council and ask for a recording device. That's what we had to do for our crappy neighbours.

You can also get free advice from citizens advice re what the council have to do.

I hope you can get it sorted or move ASAP.

Let’s just say I’m curious to hear the neighbours’ side of the story.

You can't get someone sectioned for this.

Committed is such a horrible term too.

How do they know your routines, that you are putting in soundproofing or what rooms you are in. You can contact your local environmental health noise team for advice.

This. My downstairs neighbour can likely tell when we're in the kitchen or bathroom as they're not carpeted, but we've got no idea where he is at any given time. How do they know which room you're in, unless you were also making some kind of excess noise?

How would they know what room you're in if they're above you? They can't hear you?
I think you need to see someone for anxiety tbh, I'm not sure they are the issue - and you 1 million percent won't get them sectioned. It's hard enough to get someone sectioned who actually desperately needs it.

I don't understand how they can follow you from room to room from the flat above. How would they know which room you are in?

Have you managed to record the noise? What age are they, don't they go out?

Bonkers.

I believe you OP. Sounds like you are being bullied by them.