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To think 2 is easier than 1?

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MolliciousIntent · 25/09/2022 16:35

When I had just the one baby, people used to say things along the lines of "if you think it's hard now, wait until you have 2" or "ha, trust me, one baby is easy compared to a baby and a toddler!" I was prepared for it to be really, really difficult. And a bit scared, to be honest.

The reality is SO different to how everyone told me it would be that it's making me feel like a weirdo. I love having two, and to be honest I find it easier than having one. It's like when I just had one, I was focusing all my time and attention on DD1, it was super intense and all-consuming, but now that DD2 is here I'm splitting my focus and everything feels so much less all-encompassing and much less stressful.

Obviously I'm knackered, and the logistics can be a challenge sometimes, but I'm enjoying it so much more than I did when I just had one.

I said this to one of the "just you wait til you have 2" brigade, and she looked at me like I'd grown an extra head. Is it really that weird?

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Vikinga · 25/09/2022 20:32

I found having 2 easier than one. Because they have someone to play with and interact with. There is a difficult time when they are newborn if the elder child is under 2.

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/09/2022 20:29

@i'm glad @ShadowPuppets

There are some time savings with 2. From y7 onwards, I never had to help DD2 with her homework because DD1 always did that. Even in the 6th form, thanks to technology (screen sharing etc), DD1 could still help from uni. DD1 has a very kind and patient nature, which obviously helps.

Meals were difficult when they were younger because they each only liked about 10 Ingredients and there was little overlap. They did grow out of this - eventually.

Now, they go out together- shopping, meals, cinema, gym etc. They really are best friends.

ReeseWitherfork · 25/09/2022 20:26

PinkButtercups · 25/09/2022 20:20

I'm going from 1-3.
DS is 3. All I get is 'oh you wait, you'll have your hand full' 'rather you than me'

Yeah me too. I'm glad it's me not you because your if ignorant stupid comments don't help. Rant over 😃.

You’ll get a lot of “you’ve got your hands full”. And “double trouble!” shouted at you. (From this twin mum’s experience!)

PinkButtercups · 25/09/2022 20:21

Typos sorry I'm tired!

PinkButtercups · 25/09/2022 20:20

I'm going from 1-3.
DS is 3. All I get is 'oh you wait, you'll have your hand full' 'rather you than me'

Yeah me too. I'm glad it's me not you because your if ignorant stupid comments don't help. Rant over 😃.

Blocked · 25/09/2022 20:16

Depends on lots of factors, mainly the age gap. I had my second when my first was just turned 4, he's been a great help fetching nappies etc and now they're a bit older I can trust him to keep an eye while I nip to the loo and he'll shout if there's an imminent disaster. I definitely felt the pressure of being focused on one and always feeling bad about him being lonely and trying to keep him in company and so on.

ShadowPuppets · 25/09/2022 20:12

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/09/2022 20:05

There are so many variables.

Mine are 24 months apart. DD2 was a bad sleeper. DP did not believe in doing childcare. I was knackered. I can remember falling into a deep sleep in a chair with baby DD2 in my lap. Toddler DD1 was yelling at me to wake up. I heard nothing. It would have been sooooo much easier to just stick with the one child. However no regrets, they are young adults now and great friends.

As the person who posted above you this gives me hope! Everyone tells me 2 (especially close together) is so worth it as time goes on. I had that moment of almost falling asleep last week with the toddler keeping me awake. Thank you for posting, it’s stuff like this that reminds me it isn’t forever.

Poppins2016 · 25/09/2022 20:12

I was quite concerned when people said two were really difficult to cope with. The reality has been much, much easier than I anticipated. I've enjoyed this maternity leave much more... I think this is partly because I can have a conversation with my older child and the companionship is different to that of having just a baby... it's a less lonely experience being on maternity leave second time around!

I had a 'high maintenance' first baby (the definition of 'velcro baby' and would still wake several times a night at 12 months) and an 'average' second baby (wakes only a couple of times a night at 12 months old and is more independent, doesn't need to be in the sling all the time). I might have felt differently if the personalities had been the other way around... but I suppose I'll never know!

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/09/2022 20:05

There are so many variables.

Mine are 24 months apart. DD2 was a bad sleeper. DP did not believe in doing childcare. I was knackered. I can remember falling into a deep sleep in a chair with baby DD2 in my lap. Toddler DD1 was yelling at me to wake up. I heard nothing. It would have been sooooo much easier to just stick with the one child. However no regrets, they are young adults now and great friends.

ShadowPuppets · 25/09/2022 19:57

I have a 25 month old and a 5 month old and I feel broken atm if I’m honest. The baby just wants to feed and contact nap and the toddler is tantruming over any little thing - although as a toddler she’s a million miles easier than as a baby. I just think I’m not well suited to babies tbh, I can’t cope with the constant anxiety about when they’re going to start screaming (fuck you anyone who told me having a high needs first baby meant my second would be super chilled. Both of them have spent the first few months of their life screaming like banshees the second you’re not holding them).

BUT - and this is a big but - the older one was a dream after the first 6 months. As soon as she could sit up, eat food, move about, the relentless screaming stopped and she was sunny as all get out. So knowing this bit does end helps.

i think my take would be that baby one is a life shock and baby 2 is exhaustion. At least when baby 1 was sleeping badly and could only be held I’d just sit in bed watching Netflix and feeding - not an option when you have an active toddler too. I know I’ll get my life back but right now I feel like I’m working 20 hours a day, every day, since the moment #2 was born (and the 4 hours I’m not are the hours I sleep, in two two hour bursts from 10 - 12 and 2 - 4). But I know it gets better, I suppose that helps. I’m just exhausted.

Isababybel · 25/09/2022 19:57

I have no intention of finding out. I am one and done!

89redballoons · 25/09/2022 19:50

Oh yeah, the touched out thing is another good point. I feel sorry for my husband as often, once both DC are in bed all I want to do is sleep or have a bath by myself. DH doesn't get a look-in and a couple of times I've had to stop myself from flinching if he tries to give me a cuddle 😳

It's easing up a bit now that I've started combi-feeding the baby so no longer breastfeeding all day long. I never felt like this with just one baby though.

Isitmeanttobethishard · 25/09/2022 19:47

YABVU OP!

The baby side second time round was a doddle, DS2 wasn’t even an easy baby but I just knew what I was doing, relaxed etc.

DS1 is 3 years older, I found it got harder once they reached 5 and 2, and harder again now they’re 6 and 3. They fight, DS2 is very unreasonable and DS1 is a wind up merchant. They didn’t fight when they were 4 and 1, or 3 and a baby. In fact DS1 adored DS2 at those ages.

I’m hoping it might get easier once DS2 is at a more reasonable age…

CustardGoodJamGoodMeatGood · 25/09/2022 19:41

Weird @8989redballoons my DC are the exact same age, ha

I found it so hard at first, we have a really good routine with DD1 and always have as we just had her to concentrate on, she was a really chilled baby and was happy to play by herself before DD2 came along. DD2 is a whole different ballgame, she requires constant attention and will happily let out a high pitched scream if you aren't looking at or talking to her for 0.2 seconds, she won't just lay on her playmat or sit somewhere whilst I get something done so when I have them both at home, I just never stop. We are in a routine now so it seems easier than it was but I do still think 'wow, what the hell have I done' sometimes. I find it a bit overwhelming and touched out sometimes because I always have either one or both of the kids on me and I don't seem to ever have any personal space

89redballoons · 25/09/2022 19:29

I have a baby (5 months) and toddler (2y 9 months).

I think I'm probably finding it easier now than when I had just a 5 month old. I think that's because I'm more confident as a parent, and less bothered if someone misses a nap or throws a ridiculous tantrum or comes down with a cold etc.

Also, when I had just a 5 month old we were in the first lockdown and not having any escape from the baby or any other babies to compare him to made me pretty anxious. OP, our DC are similar ages, maybe that's a factor for you as well?

That said, today my husband took the baby out for a few hours and oh my god it was so easy being just me and the toddler. We played in the garden for a bit, had lunch together and then I put him down for a nap, tidied up and put my feet up for half an hour. When I have both of them I never get a break like that and playing and eating take much longer as both need entertaining and both want my attention 100% of the time in very different ways.

Hoping it will get easier again as they get a bit older and hopefully can entertain each other sometimes.

ReeseWitherfork · 25/09/2022 19:15

Whitewolf2 · 25/09/2022 18:38

I think 2 is harder, because when I take one out it always feels easier! Less to remember, easier to chat, no fighting! However, as a pp said I think long term 1 would in some ways be more difficult as then they don’t have a companion to play with - so a parent needs to step up more.

Oh my goodness yes. I’ve got three and going out with one feels akin to a spa day.

Bemyclementine · 25/09/2022 19:14

18 month age gap. When Ds2 was a baby I was pretty easy tbh..they're 5 and 7 now, abd we've had some tough tines . They do play nicely, but they also wind each other up to hyper levels, fights, argue, annoy each other on purpose. So e days I can't take 2 steps away before they start.

dandelionthistle · 25/09/2022 19:14

I'm a single parent (always have been), mine are now 11 and 5. 100% easier with two.

Some stuff is circumstance (no mental space left to give myself a hard time, plus various reflections on age gaps - and whilst 6 years is not a popular gap on these threads, I've found every stage so far really doable and pleasant), some is specific to the child (DC1 was v high needs from birth, DC2 was gratifyingly easygoing from birth, and basically reassured me that I'm not a failingly neurotic parent who broke my firstborn).

They play together a lot. I am a better referee than primary playmate!

We trundle along really nicely as a household of 3. Going from 1 to 2 was an adjustment for me, going from 2 to 3 was an adjustment for DC1, but we're all good for each other now I think.

roarfeckingroarr · 25/09/2022 19:06

DC2 is due when DC1 will be 2y 3m. Posts like yours make me feel less scared, thank you OP.

Tootels · 25/09/2022 18:58

Skinnydecafflatte · 25/09/2022 18:01

Hmm I have DS 13 and dd 10, DS has been away for the weekend and it was infinitely much easier with one. Only one needing food, one wanting to do stuff.
They never want to do the same stuff, eat the same or be in the same breathing space mainly.
Sorry to burst your bubble but wait until they are both able to express their opinions and then come back to us!

Exactly and they argue back!!

Whitewolf2 · 25/09/2022 18:38

I think 2 is harder, because when I take one out it always feels easier! Less to remember, easier to chat, no fighting! However, as a pp said I think long term 1 would in some ways be more difficult as then they don’t have a companion to play with - so a parent needs to step up more.

mistermagpie · 25/09/2022 18:24

I've got three and to be honest, I find that easier than one. Mine are 2, 5 and 7 and the older two pretty much entertain each other, I very rarely have to provide them with an activity to do as they just make up their own games and also listen to each other's interminably boring stories! The younger one is still a bit little to join in but having another pair of hands is helpful - I can ask my seven year old to pass me the wipes or whatever or keep an eye on her for a second while I go to the loo.

If I ever have one child on their own I find it easier in some ways but more boring and intense in others. I like having a bit of a gang and I feel more able to be their 'mum' rather than just a bigger friend.

I don't like the intensity of one on one interactions in general actually - the hairdressers, taxi rides, a drink with one friend (even a good one) etc are things that I dread. Maybe that's something to do with it?

Ducksurprise · 25/09/2022 18:21

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 25/09/2022 18:16

n.b. whilst there are some major economies of scale for financially and time wise this is not true of everything and some jobs do scale in a linear fashion e.g. the laundry pile with a household of 6 - 8 people is not what I would call "a breeze"

Not for expenses admittedly, but the volume means it is always going, I honestly find it easier having everything on the go.

SpinningFloppa · 25/09/2022 18:19

I have 4 and my sister says it’s easier than having one 🤦🏻🤣

Sandy89xx · 25/09/2022 18:19

I couldn't agree more with this... ive got 2 and its so much easier than just the 1.... when I've said it out loud before hardly anyone understood.... so glad it's not just me ....