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Colleague taking the piss….

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Laughingteacakes · 01/09/2022 20:16

I work in a team alongside a colleague, we do the same job, we are on a small team in a public services workplace - don’t want to be too outing. We are able to work from home but also have an office base and we do work in the community, around the area of our office base.
This colleague has small children, she doesn’t have childcare in place consistently, she seems to be working her job around her childcare needs rather than pay for the right amount of childcare (money isn’t an issue, think expensive car, large house etc). She also travels from home to work in her work time so that she can be at home at the times she needs for her childcare, without making up the 1.5ish hours this takes her each day. The rest of the team are working really hard, extra hours, lots of stress about getting through the workload, she is breezing along with a much lighter workload and therefore managing to continue to be at home whenever she needs to for her children. It is driving me crazy, I am so pissed off that the rest of the team including myself are working so hard and she is taking the absolute piss. I know different people have different work ethics but I feel this is really out of order. It’s also causing lots of negativity in the team with people feeling so cross.
This has been going on about a year, but is getting worse. I need advice, how would you deal with this, our manager doesn’t seem to be interested as the teams work is getting done.
YABU - you should just get on with it and not get involved.
YANBU - this is a piss take and you should do something to try and get the workload more even. Thanks for any views…I’m that worked up about it I can’t think straight….😊

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carefullycourageous · 03/09/2022 08:35

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carefullycourageous · 03/09/2022 08:34

illicitinkling · 03/09/2022 07:36

@carefullycourageous Labour want to reverse levelling up but use it as a dual prong attack -

only last month they levelled complaints at passport office staff claiming people working from home on laptops was leading to delays - that was proved to be nonsense -

labour always create these sideshows but for their own narrow control from the centre ideologies - at least civil servants (men and women) now have more of a work life balance/cuts emissions through reduced travelling/work gets done/good for staff/good for the environment - as usual Labour Party policy out of step with the realities and expectations of peoples lives -

trade unionists hate this - hence campaigns promoting us and them/alleging workloads imbalance on the grounds of class - they really are dumb if they think women on Mumsnet will be fooled by cheap mind tricks!!!

You're totally off the mark here, sorry. What your saying is either conspiracy rubbish you've read or made up.

YouLookinSusBro · 03/09/2022 07:59

LicoricePizza · 02/09/2022 22:18

Lots of shirkers on MN judging from the negative comment. Bizarre.

Yeah some really odd comments on this thread. And the people saying performance matters not hours clearly have no idea what is involved in working in the NHS/with vulnerable people. I would definitely be passing this to my line manager, she's essentially commiting fraud, and given how stressed the NHS is it's not acceptable.

wibblywobblybits · 03/09/2022 07:53

illicitinkling · 03/09/2022 05:28

BUT LET’s NOT LOSE SIGHT OF a Labour Party vying for power … they get their supporters raising issues on bulletin boards to a) discredit Liz Truss and 2) to plant a FAKE NEWS Story to mask their true intent
if they return to power after twelve (12) years … a policy shift: namely; centralising ALL Civil Servants in London and ending ALL Working from home or levelling up area offices outside of London -

the lie about work loads is to create unrest through jealousy but cleverly deflect attention away from their REAL INTENT … ending levelling up and centering all control back in London - reversing Boris Johnson levelling up policy …
SAME OLD LIEBOUR, SAME OLD HALF TRUTHS!!!

Hahahahahahahhaha why are all tories complete and utter nut jobs

illicitinkling · 03/09/2022 07:36

@carefullycourageous Labour want to reverse levelling up but use it as a dual prong attack -

only last month they levelled complaints at passport office staff claiming people working from home on laptops was leading to delays - that was proved to be nonsense -

labour always create these sideshows but for their own narrow control from the centre ideologies - at least civil servants (men and women) now have more of a work life balance/cuts emissions through reduced travelling/work gets done/good for staff/good for the environment - as usual Labour Party policy out of step with the realities and expectations of peoples lives -

trade unionists hate this - hence campaigns promoting us and them/alleging workloads imbalance on the grounds of class - they really are dumb if they think women on Mumsnet will be fooled by cheap mind tricks!!!

carefullycourageous · 03/09/2022 06:43

illicitinkling · 03/09/2022 05:28

BUT LET’s NOT LOSE SIGHT OF a Labour Party vying for power … they get their supporters raising issues on bulletin boards to a) discredit Liz Truss and 2) to plant a FAKE NEWS Story to mask their true intent
if they return to power after twelve (12) years … a policy shift: namely; centralising ALL Civil Servants in London and ending ALL Working from home or levelling up area offices outside of London -

the lie about work loads is to create unrest through jealousy but cleverly deflect attention away from their REAL INTENT … ending levelling up and centering all control back in London - reversing Boris Johnson levelling up policy …
SAME OLD LIEBOUR, SAME OLD HALF TRUTHS!!!

This is entirely made up. What earthly reason would Labour have to move a government office from the neighbouring Labour constituency to London? None.

Johnson has done no levelling up, the stats show greater regional inequality now. The man is a total failure as a PM, just endless slogans and empty words.

And it isn't difficult to discredit Truss, she's doing that herself every time she speaks. Tbh Sunak has made the most criticisms of Truss.

illicitinkling · 03/09/2022 05:28

BUT LET’s NOT LOSE SIGHT OF a Labour Party vying for power … they get their supporters raising issues on bulletin boards to a) discredit Liz Truss and 2) to plant a FAKE NEWS Story to mask their true intent
if they return to power after twelve (12) years … a policy shift: namely; centralising ALL Civil Servants in London and ending ALL Working from home or levelling up area offices outside of London -

the lie about work loads is to create unrest through jealousy but cleverly deflect attention away from their REAL INTENT … ending levelling up and centering all control back in London - reversing Boris Johnson levelling up policy …
SAME OLD LIEBOUR, SAME OLD HALF TRUTHS!!!

Autumn61 · 03/09/2022 00:58

I’m so sorry you feel so aggravated about this but if you are collectively completing all the weeks work then the answer lies with you and your colleagues. Simply stop doing her work. It will build up and it will be noticed , ( albeit eventually), by her line manager. Do your job to the best of your ability and come clicking off time, go home. End of .

ChellyT · 03/09/2022 00:57

buzzbuzzybuzz · 01/09/2022 20:21

Ask if she has a flexible working agreement.

If she doesn't then assume you can do the same.

Absolutely this!

Also your manager doesn't care as long as all dead lines and work are completed on time. Why would they care?

Fudgemaker · 03/09/2022 00:27

Shortkiwi · 02/09/2022 23:44

The issue is that this practice is widespread across the NHS and worse since Covid. Basically, there are many employees who by taking the piss, are committing fraud. If the general public knew what went on they would be outraged. The NHS is on its knees and it’s no wonder, this is a contributing factor. Some staff working in the community get away with it, more so than hospital staff. I’ve worked in both areas. I’m working with such people atm. Managers turn a blind eye and lots of them are useless.

Also widespread in the police force I worked for until a short while ago. Lots of pisstakers, snowflakes and shirkers. The conscientious workers are getting wise an leaving in droves

LicoricePizza · 03/09/2022 00:01

Same @rainbowmilk - but usually managers IME with kids who can get away with it more (or use kids as their excuse to clock off etc).

Shortkiwi · 02/09/2022 23:44

The issue is that this practice is widespread across the NHS and worse since Covid. Basically, there are many employees who by taking the piss, are committing fraud. If the general public knew what went on they would be outraged. The NHS is on its knees and it’s no wonder, this is a contributing factor. Some staff working in the community get away with it, more so than hospital staff. I’ve worked in both areas. I’m working with such people atm. Managers turn a blind eye and lots of them are useless.

illicitinkling · 02/09/2022 23:35

@JustMeBeingMe2022 its a typical labour supporting sideshow - they don’t care what issue they raise - it gets everyone talking so they can plant their anti Tory propaganda

JustMeBeingMe2022 · 02/09/2022 23:25

Astori · 02/09/2022 20:55

I think my answer will shock you:be happy for her and proud of her.Ask yourself,what does make you angry,do you want her to quit just becuase she care for her children and making her anympolyed,just becuase she try handle both work and children?If you going to talk about her negatively with your managers,you going to put her down becuase she care and maybe do not want strangers to look after her children.IF you really need she participate in some more work,ask her,what exactly is important,to work from home on that particular projetc,or maybe she can do saturday morning,when childs dad or relative is involved with kids,rather then talking behind her back negatively.Maybe she feel your preasure and she is feeling the stress from you,but she love her kids and she cant abandande her.Maybe she doesnt have so understanding man or relatives,who would do their part of babysitting or childcare or maybe she prearange her hours to be shorter,you dont know,her arrangements are not your business,but if you need a hand with particular project tell her so.Its you task to get along well with your cooworkers rather then be rediculously jelous if somebody rush to pick up her kids from school .Who knows,maybe one day you will end up looking after ill mother or will have operation and it will be you who will need to be out of office for while,you dont know what other people going throw.With your attituded you will make man always more succesfull then woman,becuase it is usually woman who are needed to care more and do more for family,while also needed to earn money.

For goodness sake, many working parents would rather look after their own children and don’t want to need childcare! However, they have bills to pay and careers that cannot be put on hold.

This thread is hilarious judging by the replies 🙄

You go to work and you pull your weight no matter whether you have children or not.

rainbowmilk · 02/09/2022 23:10

@LicoricePizza Agreed. Apparently having kids means you can work part time hours for full time pay and everyone else needs to mind their own business.

I see a lot of this at my workplace and thought it was unique but according to this thread it’s blooming rife.

LicoricePizza · 02/09/2022 22:56

If the colleague didn’t have kids I’m sure a lot of posters would not be so sympathetic about their behaviour. Because how would they be able to justify their behaviour? Your manager sounds v laissez-faith unfortunately so not sure how they’ll respond as they’re happy to let people get in with things - which is a good thing in principle- apart when people take the piss. This colleague knows that & it’s working to their advantage IMO.

Zeborah · 02/09/2022 22:49

I agree, that this situation seems unfair, however, things would be much easier if you just focused on your own work & not the work of others. I always advised staff to aspire to be the best that they can be and to measure themselves against the best and not the worst. Life in the workplace can often feel unfair & through the course of your career, this will not be the only time you experience this scenario, be the best that you can be and ignore the rest.

Islandgirl68 · 02/09/2022 22:46

Absolutely agree with you, if she can't d o a full time job due to child care she should go part time. And get paid for the hours she works.

Mumofsons87 · 02/09/2022 22:41

I voted YABU because her workload is not the issue. Your workload is the problem here. If you cannot get it done in your day you need to tell your line manager.
You could suggest the others do the same if they are struggling.
Let the line manager deal with fairness and you look after yourself.

nakaji · 02/09/2022 22:41

I'm a manager - once had a team where something similar was happening. One team member geting really agitated that the another was appearing to coast. The reality was that the coaster was ten times better than the slogger who had zero talent. I knew as a manager that allowing my coaster to coast a little meant I got much better productivity so I did. The slogger was always going to be pretty basic - she lacked the talent and intelligence and above all else the self awareness. The coaster eventually left and was replaced by an equally talented worker who also slogged. The original slogger remained bitter only this time it was jealousy over it being obvious she was just never going to be as good.

xmaswiththeinlaws · 02/09/2022 22:40

I used to work with a lady who was employed part-time. She worked 3 or 4 days a week, school hours only. Lots of the other staff members used to get passed off that she "went home early", however, she did the hours she was actually employed for. Perhaps this colleague has a similar arrangement. Best to check before stressing out.

user1493559472 · 02/09/2022 22:26

I hate this when work colleagues take the mick!! I have colleagues who have children and always need to take emergency leave and work from home!
I think you need to speak to your manager, also don't do extra work to cover your colleague's work too.

MadMadaMim · 02/09/2022 22:20

"But it is my business because when she’s being paid to work but not working, it prohibits her from taking on her fair share of the workload, this is impacting on me as my workload is higher .... when my workload is like 50% higher because she’s not able to get through her fair share then it becomes my business"

How is your workload higher? And why is it 50% higher? Why are you picking up her shortfall?

It sounds like you and your colleagues are enabling her behaviour. You take on her work, see yourselves as hard done by martyrs and then complain about a situation that sounds like it's almost entirely of your own making.

The team manager will immediately notice if you stop with the martyrdom. And the manager will take swift action - colleague not completing work impavts the manager directly.

Stop taking up the slack

AlexandriasWindmill · 02/09/2022 22:20

Or we're too busy working to check colleague's calendars and workload.

LicoricePizza · 02/09/2022 22:18

Lots of shirkers on MN judging from the negative comment. Bizarre.

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