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To not understand why some couples have to do everything together

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cadburyegg · 13/08/2022 16:48

I see this SO often. Examples

  • both parents coming to another child's birthday party with their only child
  • both parents coming to school pick up
  • my ex in laws won't do anything separately - mil won't go shopping without fil
  • at an info evening for reception, several children had both parents there, which meant their (often multiple children) were there too, causing disruption and making it tricky to hear what was being said
  • refusing to make plans with friends at the weekend because it's "family time"
  • when I was on maternity leave with DC2 I took both children out for the day and saw someone I know. She couldn't believe my bravery at taking both of the children out by myself
  • on more than one occasion I have met up with a friend and their partner has also been there or has shown up half way through lunch etc, which I wasn't aware of. Totally changes the dynamic
  • I see it on Mumsnet too - one person not wanting to go to a family meal and leave the other with the children

I know it's nice to have family time of course but I struggle with the idea that some people can't do anything on their own.
I'm a single parent AND an only child and so I'm used to doing things on my own with or without the children! My children are NOT easy either before anyone comments, DC1 is hypersensitive and very clingy whilst DC2 had delayed motor skills which means he still struggles with some physical stuff. So AIBU? I don't get it. I'm sure there are valid reasons but what are they?

OP posts:
gonuts · 13/08/2022 19:57

@PollyRockets i'm talking about this happening "regularly", you seem to be referring to the odd occasion, being a novelty.

Sugarplumfairy65 · 13/08/2022 19:57

FayeGovan · 13/08/2022 16:51

Mmm. Some people are dicks and cant do fuck all for themselves.

I suppose I'm dick then. My husband comes everywhere with me because I can't push my own wheelchair. We like each other's company though.
He goes out without me to the gym etc, but I can't go out without him.

FreyaStorm · 13/08/2022 19:57

Twiglets1 · 13/08/2022 18:13

I think it’s a bit creepy when the other partner tags along where they are clearly not wanted - for example a man coming to a female friends get together or vice versa. I mean, their own partner might love their company but in all likelihood no one else does and they are just being polite!

Exactly. Imagine organising a baby shower and one of the invitees assumed she could bring her husband without even asking.

What’s next? DPs on stag and hen dos?!

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 13/08/2022 19:57

cadburyegg · 13/08/2022 19:03

I think you’re jealous because you’re single

I think this is a good example of how the "you're jealous" comment is used to try to shut a conversation down that you're not comfortable with.

Yes! Please #BeKind !!!!!

cadburyegg · 13/08/2022 19:56

BeanieTeen · 13/08/2022 19:45

we also go to parents evening together, didn’t realise there was anything wrong with that?

I’m a teacher and please know there’s nothing wrong with that, in fact it’s very much encouraged @Gardeningismythingwithawine Obviously for various reasons it’s not always possible to have both parents there, but both parents showing an interest in their child’s education is definitely a positive. And if both turn up I assume that’s why both parents are there - because they both want to hear about it their child from me and take a first hand look at their work. Never have I thought they are there together because they are codependent and can’t do things apart. That’s just bonkers.

But presumably if you had the choice between A - a parent coming to the evening alone or B - both parents coming with their 4 year old and twin toddlers and allowing the kids to run around making noise which meant the parents couldn't actually hear what was being said, you'd choose option A. Or, if you ever had option B, you'd prefer it if one of the parents took the kids out for 10 minutes.

OP posts:
Wouldloveanother · 13/08/2022 19:56

Aquamarine1029 · 13/08/2022 16:54

Of course you're being unreasonable. It has fuck all to do with you and doesn't impact you whatsoever. Why would you even care?

Yikes!

I know what you mean OP, my dad and stepmother are like this. They don’t go anywhere without each other, ever. It’s weird and unhealthy in my opinion. Do they not ever feel like doing something alone, or different to what the other one wants to do? Today DH took DD to the beach with MIL, I don’t like the heat and wanted to stay home watching Netflix so I did 🤷🏼‍♀️

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 13/08/2022 19:56

Ragwort · 13/08/2022 19:20

It wouldn't suit me ... married over 30 years but DH and I rarely do anything together ... separate friends, separate social lives and hobbies, separate holidays and separate bedrooms - but it works for us Grin.

I do think some couples are overly co-dependent and I worry how they will cope when (inevitably) one is left alone. My DPs had pretty independent lives (not as much as mine!) and thankfully now that my mum is on her own after 60 years of marriage she still has loads of friends, interests etc and is not moping around.

That sounds like flatmates!

mam0918 · 13/08/2022 19:56

so people actually ENJOY time with their partner and believe in joint parenting where BOTH parent take an active part in their kids lives together at the same time.

Its called being a family.

BeanieTeen · 13/08/2022 19:54

Same with the school run, like a PP said i'm also quite surprised when there's couples there regularly picking up a kid, i'm often wondering don't they have work ?

But if you’re there @gonuts you don’t have work either presumably? They could wonder the same about you. Why do they need to be at work if you’re not?
It may surprise you, but not all jobs are 9-5 out of the house.
You sound like the OP. Making bizarre assumptions about people because they pick their kids up from school together. Not only are these parents all co-dependent, they’re all unemployed too 😂

MugginsOverEre · 13/08/2022 19:53

I like my husband and he, being the other parent of our kids, wants to attend our children's events, info days, parents evenings etc.

Should I not like my DH?

Dalaidramailama · 13/08/2022 19:52

@Gwenhwyfar

Depends entirely on the arrangements beforehand. If you’ve agreed to just go out with the women then you leave the husbands at home. Likewise they often go out for their own nights with each other and do not take their wives out.

Couples nights are exactly that ….. going out with other couples.

whereistheoneandidontmeanneo · 13/08/2022 19:52

Ex friend and husband were like this. It to the point - they had to both ‘discuss how they jointly answered every text each other got’

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 13/08/2022 19:51

Katesboy8 · 13/08/2022 18:57

I think you’re jealous because you’re single

I actually took your post seriously for a millisecond. 😹😹😹

Gwenhwyfar · 13/08/2022 19:50

"Still remember years ago a friend of my ne (no longer 😁) who should've been at my hen night, turned up with her husband to my DH stag DGS."

Hen and stag nights are specifically single sex outings though. Most evenings out with friends aren't.

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 19:50

gonuts · 13/08/2022 19:38

I totally agree with you OP!
A lot of the examples you gave show real co dependence.
Fair enough you like each other's company, but why would the other person want to go to the supermarket if you had the option not to?!
Same with the school run, like a PP said i'm also quite surprised when there's couples there regularly picking up a kid, i'm often wondering don't they have work ?

I loved it when both mum and dad came to pick me up. Why do you think it's strange for couples to do things with their child together?

Newmumatlast · 13/08/2022 19:47

I totally get what you mean with some people. I had a friend who couldn't do anything without her partner. Even tried inviting him and the kids on a girls weekend. Always had to get back from things quick because he couldn't look after them for too long alone etc. That is annoying.

However some of your examples aren't necessarily due to not being able to do stuff alone. Where it concerns the kids both my husband and I are very active parents. I'm not the one that does everything like some mums. So parents evening we would both go (though would have someone watch kids) same with other things to do with school if free. Pick up only one of us would routinely do unless we both happened to be on way back or to somewhere or maybe for a surprise (our kids would like that). Birthday parties one of us would do unless we were friendly with the parents running the party in which case we might both go (and other friends have done similar).

Weekends for us are about family time as husband and I both have hectic jobs and dont get much quality time with the kids in the week however we don't rule out doing stuff solo with friends or whatever- just not all the time. So I get why people may not say yes to everything but I think saying no all the time is extreme as its healthy to still have your own life outside being a mum and wife. But again, for us at least spending time together isnt because we can't apart.

ErmineAndPearls · 13/08/2022 19:47

Two parents turning up at a kids’ party has always totally baffled me. It’s a nice Saturday afternoon and two grown adults are choosing to spend hours in a chaotic soft play centre? I always imagine that one of them has told the other, “If I have to suffer this, then you have to as well.”

Shade17 · 13/08/2022 19:46

School pickups are great when there are two of us available, no parking issues! One goes in and the other does laps in the car.

Fifife · 13/08/2022 19:46

I do hate it when grown women won't go to the toilet on their own though. My friend always used to ask me or tag along I want to piss in peace thank you .

BeanieTeen · 13/08/2022 19:45

we also go to parents evening together, didn’t realise there was anything wrong with that?

I’m a teacher and please know there’s nothing wrong with that, in fact it’s very much encouraged @Gardeningismythingwithawine Obviously for various reasons it’s not always possible to have both parents there, but both parents showing an interest in their child’s education is definitely a positive. And if both turn up I assume that’s why both parents are there - because they both want to hear about it their child from me and take a first hand look at their work. Never have I thought they are there together because they are codependent and can’t do things apart. That’s just bonkers.

Fifife · 13/08/2022 19:43

My OH won't go out unless I decide where we are going apart from motorbike rides. He likes company.

Dalaidramailama · 13/08/2022 19:43

@Gwenhwyfar

I like to meet up with my friends. My friends are all women. Now and again ONE of the women will bring along her gooseberry husband much to the annoyance of us all. We like to have a night out WOMEN only. None of them are lesbians so we will not need to encounter anyone else so is that clear enough for you?

we don’t go out to meet new people we are all a bunch of friends who have been close since school and we like to catch up on each other’s lives mainly.

Do you understand now?

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 13/08/2022 19:43

People have different personalities, different dynamics in their relationships and like doing things their own way.
people aren’t all the same. It’s really not that big a deal. I think partly we need to accept that everyone does things differently.

I guess you could try to take an extreme perspective of it being people incapable of doing things alone but similarly you could judge someone always alone in an extreme way as someone incapable of having a close relationship or as someone who doesn’t care about family time.

reality is probably a lot more boring and people just like spending time together even though they could do things alone.

gonuts · 13/08/2022 19:40

RainbowRabbit33 · 13/08/2022 17:25

I'm sorry you find DH and me such inadequate humans 😂We meet many of your criteria. I don't think we're weirdos; have a glimpse into our world and see what you make to it ☺️

Kids parties are really dull on your own, especially when conversation runs dry with the other parents. Those parties in Reception were loooong. And very, very regular.

We do pick up on the way home from work. It would feel really odd for one of us to sit in the car and gaze out of the window/at the phone whilst the other went to pick her up (in Y3/4 we still have to go over to where their classrooms are to get them rather than wait in the car park for them to come to us).

During term time, we generally go to the supermarket before we go and pick her up from a sports match on Saturday mornings. We both want to see her play a bit (but not necessarily the whole match, see above re other parents and parties). During the holidays I suppose it's just habit to go together and DD enjoys ticking things off the list. To be honest I'd never really thought about it.

We went together to the Reception info evening because we were both really excited about her starting school - it seemed a huge step and we wanted to soak it all in. We're over that one now 😂.

I don't think we would ever say we refuse other plans, but we do prioritise family time. During the week we only see her for a couple of hours max in the evenings as she has to be in school by 0810 and goes to after school club so we can work. We don't usually pick her up until 1745, she's in bed at 1930 and has to have dinner and do music practice in that time.

I wouldn't have commented that you were amazing for taking your kids out and I wouldn't show up at DH's function (unless it was joint friends or something).

We're only ever invited to family things as a family, so that means all three of us. That might be influenced by the fact that neither DH nor I have much in the way of extended family, so it's mostly the GPs plus us.

I guess we might look very insular to you as you'd see us together a lot. It's not that we can't do anything apart it's governed more by convenience and our particular circumstances.

I don't hate the other school parents by the way, they are nice people and I am quite friendly with some of them. We don't have a huge amount in common with them besides school though, and there's only so many times I can discuss whether Miss Jones is more strict than Mr Brown!!

A lot of this seems to be associated with having one child/PFB, especially the comment about being really into the child starting reception.

SleepingStandingUp · 13/08/2022 19:40

lickenchugget · 13/08/2022 19:33

Can’t see what is wrong with two parents going to a school meeting, why would it just be up to one. Sounds a tiny bit bitter, to be honest.

The crashing a lunch thing is weird, but I’ve never known anyone to do that.

Two adults going assuming it isn't limited spaces, is fine. The issue seems to be when that means dragging a handful of young kids there which then disturbs everyone else so they can't listen, rather than saying (even if you have to leave the house together because its just a cold shell without them) one of us will wait outside with the kids / pop to the shops etc so everyone can hear. A single parent taking children is accepted as no childcare, no choice but two parents sat their allowing the kids to be disruptive is selfish.

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