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To not understand why some couples have to do everything together

791 replies

cadburyegg · 13/08/2022 16:48

I see this SO often. Examples

  • both parents coming to another child's birthday party with their only child
  • both parents coming to school pick up
  • my ex in laws won't do anything separately - mil won't go shopping without fil
  • at an info evening for reception, several children had both parents there, which meant their (often multiple children) were there too, causing disruption and making it tricky to hear what was being said
  • refusing to make plans with friends at the weekend because it's "family time"
  • when I was on maternity leave with DC2 I took both children out for the day and saw someone I know. She couldn't believe my bravery at taking both of the children out by myself
  • on more than one occasion I have met up with a friend and their partner has also been there or has shown up half way through lunch etc, which I wasn't aware of. Totally changes the dynamic
  • I see it on Mumsnet too - one person not wanting to go to a family meal and leave the other with the children

I know it's nice to have family time of course but I struggle with the idea that some people can't do anything on their own.
I'm a single parent AND an only child and so I'm used to doing things on my own with or without the children! My children are NOT easy either before anyone comments, DC1 is hypersensitive and very clingy whilst DC2 had delayed motor skills which means he still struggles with some physical stuff. So AIBU? I don't get it. I'm sure there are valid reasons but what are they?

OP posts:
Arbesque · 14/08/2022 09:01

Can't believe we got to page 18 before the 'jealous' accusation arrived.

Couples who like to spend a lot of time together: great
Couples who refuse to do anything on their own: not so great.

I particularly hate a husband showing up at what's meant to be a gathering of female friends.
Also a couple insisting on going somewhere together when it would be more sensible and considerate for one to stay at home with the kids.

It's also healthy to have some separate activities and interests, especially in the sad event that one of the couple dies.

SirChenjins · 14/08/2022 08:58

Nah, ‘you’re jealous’ is always trotted out when posters have nothing better to offer 🤣

Berk23 · 14/08/2022 08:53

Touched a nerve I guess 🤣

SirChenjins · 14/08/2022 08:51

Bingo! The ‘you’re jealous’ post has arrived 👏

Berk23 · 14/08/2022 08:50

It sounds to me as if OP and certain other people in this thread are jealous. Jealous of couples because they are single, or jealous of other women who's partners actually want to spend time with them!

Rockbird · 14/08/2022 08:48

sunsoutmumsout · 13/08/2022 17:24

It does seem like on MN that many posters struggle / are incapable of parenting on their own as evidenced by the amount of threads where mums on maternity leave insist their working husband wakes all through the night too.

ODFO. There are many reasons why women need overnight help from their partners. I have the scars on my arms to remind me how much I struggled while my working husband slept all night.

Wheelz46 · 14/08/2022 08:45

All the points you have listed should have no affect on you whatsoever!

Regarding the school info evening, of course both parents can be there without normally being attached to the hip, school placement is a joint decision and a tough decision when it comes to looking around high school!

What about a single parent, who has no family or partner/ex partner to look after their child to attend an info meeting, should they stay home incase one of their children plays up?

FYI me and my partner do a lot of separate things, however if a couple choose to be together most of the time, that is their choice, absolutely nothing to do with anyone else!

SleepingStandingUp · 14/08/2022 08:43

MJBmummy · 13/08/2022 21:12

It’s normal to prioritise your partner and children over friends.
people who don’t have good relationships with their partners (or any relationship at all) struggle to understand that because they don’t know what it’s like

It is.
But prioritising isn't necessarily never being apart.

My husband prioritised me when me brought me tickets for a few days away to see someone i really want to see. It isn't possible to all go together and if i wait til the kids are big enough, he'll be dead.
I prioritised DH when i said I'd have the kids whilst he went and did something linked to his hobby and then for a beer with his mates.
I prioritised my kids when i told DH he was having the younger ones at home whilst i took the eldest out as its too bloody hot.
I'm prioritising me when i go out Tuesday night and leave DH to do bed.

There's more than one way to prioritise your family.

ApplesandBunions · 14/08/2022 08:39

nokidshere · 14/08/2022 08:28

Well I had a friend who would not go to bed without her husband, as in they* had to go to bed at the very same time. It made me angry!*

Why though? Why would someone else's bedtime make you angry? Bizarre.

Some people in this thread seem to really struggle with appropriate boundaries.

Christmasiscominghohoho · 14/08/2022 08:38

Because they are just plain odd balls.

There’s a set of parents like that at my daughters school. You never get one without the other.

MrsNaginal · 14/08/2022 08:35

Sorry, definitely would NOT have

SirChenjins · 14/08/2022 08:34

Simonjt · 14/08/2022 08:00

We have a shared email address thats used for anything related to our children, its handy as we’ll both get to see them, where as if you give school etc both emails they’ll only email one person.

Shared email for school stuff, yes - for literally everything else including personal correspondence, no.

MrsNaginal · 14/08/2022 08:34

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AMIAMIBU · 14/08/2022 08:30

Aquamarine1029 · 13/08/2022 16:54

Of course you're being unreasonable. It has fuck all to do with you and doesn't impact you whatsoever. Why would you even care?

This!

AMIAMIBU · 14/08/2022 08:30

FayeGovan · 13/08/2022 16:51

Mmm. Some people are dicks and cant do fuck all for themselves.

Or like each other's company?

nokidshere · 14/08/2022 08:28

Well I had a friend who would not go to bed without her husband, as in they* had to go to bed at the very same time. It made me angry!*

Why though? Why would someone else's bedtime make you angry? Bizarre.

SummerLobelia · 14/08/2022 08:26

Simonjt · 14/08/2022 08:00

We have a shared email address thats used for anything related to our children, its handy as we’ll both get to see them, where as if you give school etc both emails they’ll only email one person.

Oh that is a good idea!

ApplesandBunions · 14/08/2022 08:14

rarge · 13/08/2022 23:11

@DirectionToPerfection having an opinion on people shopping together etc is weird and overly focussed, but I wasn't talking about you specifically

It is definitely in weirdo territory.

Simonjt · 14/08/2022 08:00

Thinkbiglittleone · 13/08/2022 23:06

Shared email accounts are beyond bonkers.

I've never heard of shared email addresses until this thread.

We have a shared email address thats used for anything related to our children, its handy as we’ll both get to see them, where as if you give school etc both emails they’ll only email one person.

Herejustforthisone · 14/08/2022 07:41

HundredMilesAnHour · 13/08/2022 16:54

Totally agree with you OP. Some people are co-dependent and then use excuses like "we like each other" to cover up their weaknesses whilst managing to insult everyone else at the same time. Dreadful people.

Dreadful people? A couple enjoying being together makes them weak and dreadful people?

My word, you seem so very, very bitter. 😆

Mfsf · 14/08/2022 00:23

I was a single parent 14 years prior to my 2 year partner and quite able to go out on my own , work and sustain a home without help , even doing most diy better than my partner . in fact if he left tomorrow apart from the emotional turmoil I’m proud to say I could do what we both do and maintain the kid’s lifestyle 100% .
But some of the things you describe we do together because it’s nicer to do together ? Nothing to do with inability.
I learned not to judge other’s relationships, some people do a bare minimum together, others love being together . I quite enjoy family time and would not exchange it unless for a special event as BFF birthday or similar

TheWayoftheLeaf · 13/08/2022 23:47

They're in love and are best friends. They want to be together all the time. Obvs

rarge · 13/08/2022 23:47

DirectionToPerfection · 13/08/2022 23:17

Ok, you two can make up whatever stories you like about me. I'm recently married and extremely happy and secure in my relationship, but hey if believing I'm some sort of bitter, jealous creature helps you validate your own views, go for it. 😂

The dig at single mothers was quite something though, I have to say.

No idea if this is for me, but I was a single teen mother not that long ago @DirectionToPerfection. It's not a judgement to say that if your out by yourself, you're probably hyper aware of others.

And said nothing insulting to single mothers? I'm not sure what your trying to do there.

You probably are weird bitter and jealous if you have an opinion about people's lives that don't affect you. If it doesn't apply to you, then your not. Simple as.

tiggergoesbounce · 13/08/2022 23:47

@TheVillageShop your post is lovely.

Your relationship sounds wonderful and i hope you are doing ok with your DH FlowersFlowers

TheVillageShop · 13/08/2022 23:41

I haven't read the whole thread but think I get the gist.

I think some of the misunderstandings might be because of the wide age range of MN posters. We have people here from 18 to well over 80.

I have friends in their 80's and it's not unusual for the wife never to have learnt to drive. They started work in an era when you often had to give up your job when you got married. You couldn't get a mortgage without your husband's agreement and signature. Daddy really did 'give you away' on your wedding day, when you promised to 'love, honour and obey'.

Married couples, in love and having been parted in earlier days by the war or a genuinely hard day's work, often wanted nothing more than to spend their leisure time together. We felt like that too, madly in love in the flower power sixties, all we wanted to do was spend every waking moment together. It wasn't unhealthy, and we have clocked up 45 years of marriage. We always used to enjoy doing a big shop together and stop at the cafe for a coffee and a bite to eat. It made an outing out of a chore. Why not?

We used to do most things together throughout our entire married life, and still had regular Friday night date nights out. I also had time for girlfriends, or shopping trips on my own (my H hated shopping except food shopping), and of course we both worked. We brought up 2 children as well, without co-dependency being too much of a problem. Anyway, if you love one and other and are intent on building a secure and happy family, you are actually going to be healthily dependent on your love ones, and they on you. To keep your guard up as a protection against love would be very sad way to live a life.

As someone wise once said, grief is the price we pay for love. I am in a thoughtful mood because my darling husband is terminally ill. And I am glad for every second of my time we spent together. We have had a rich life full of love and co-dependency, and our adult children are proud and thankful too, and our grandchildren too are aware of the loving warmth of family.

I think I can empathise with the confusion here as I come from a disastrously damaged and fractured family, and I well remember when even seeing an apparently 'happy family', hurt my chest inside and made me want to run or scream. Those feelings can get muddled and confuse the messages. Even therapists I believe are confused by this, hence the idea that co-dependency is unhealthy. But that is another debate for another time.