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To not understand why some couples have to do everything together

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cadburyegg · 13/08/2022 16:48

I see this SO often. Examples

  • both parents coming to another child's birthday party with their only child
  • both parents coming to school pick up
  • my ex in laws won't do anything separately - mil won't go shopping without fil
  • at an info evening for reception, several children had both parents there, which meant their (often multiple children) were there too, causing disruption and making it tricky to hear what was being said
  • refusing to make plans with friends at the weekend because it's "family time"
  • when I was on maternity leave with DC2 I took both children out for the day and saw someone I know. She couldn't believe my bravery at taking both of the children out by myself
  • on more than one occasion I have met up with a friend and their partner has also been there or has shown up half way through lunch etc, which I wasn't aware of. Totally changes the dynamic
  • I see it on Mumsnet too - one person not wanting to go to a family meal and leave the other with the children

I know it's nice to have family time of course but I struggle with the idea that some people can't do anything on their own.
I'm a single parent AND an only child and so I'm used to doing things on my own with or without the children! My children are NOT easy either before anyone comments, DC1 is hypersensitive and very clingy whilst DC2 had delayed motor skills which means he still struggles with some physical stuff. So AIBU? I don't get it. I'm sure there are valid reasons but what are they?

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SleepingStandingUp · 14/08/2022 23:04

Hmm1234 · 14/08/2022 22:05

The first two points show familial solidarity you sound pathetic maybe annoyed your own partner doesn’t do this!?

You don't need a show of solidarity to go to a six year olds birthday party 🙄

Also, if you'd read the post properly, you'd see op is single

Some spare comma's for you ,,,,,

SleepingStandingUp · 14/08/2022 23:01

Darlingx · 14/08/2022 22:43

I think its lovely for family time when both parents are there but I was once in Boots where a woman was shopping for Tampons with her partner 🤷🏻‍♀️Seriously I know Prince Charles wanted to be a Tampon but shopping for them with your partner in tow where your both browsing the selection? I just hope I am not so joined at the hip that I need to consult harang a man into Tampon shopping on a Saturday morning

Presumably they were out in town generally tho not specifically left the house just to buy tampons. Or he drives and she doesn't. I mean unless he's giving her advice or stating his preference it's hardly secret woman job. She could have sent him if she knew what she wanted.

DottyPeacock · 14/08/2022 22:51

Hmm1234 · 14/08/2022 22:05

The first two points show familial solidarity you sound pathetic maybe annoyed your own partner doesn’t do this!?

I’m not sure personal insults directed at the OP are necessary.OP doesn’t sound in the least bit pathetic to me, quite the opposite.

Is ‘familiar solidarity’ really needed on the school run or a random classmates birthday party? It’s not aimed at those who occasionally do the school run as a couple, it’s aimed at couples who can’t do the school run alone.

I always used to talk to any parent standing alone. I would feel awkward rocking up and chatting to a couple. And to those saying what does it matter, the classrooms I have waited outside, children find it hard to locate their own parent if there are double the amount needed crowded into the area near the door. Same at a birthday party. How do these parents know, who turn up en masse, that the birthday child might feel more nervous around lots of adults they don’t know?

Darlingx · 14/08/2022 22:43

I think its lovely for family time when both parents are there but I was once in Boots where a woman was shopping for Tampons with her partner 🤷🏻‍♀️Seriously I know Prince Charles wanted to be a Tampon but shopping for them with your partner in tow where your both browsing the selection? I just hope I am not so joined at the hip that I need to consult harang a man into Tampon shopping on a Saturday morning

InWalksBarberalla · 14/08/2022 22:37

What's the issue with both parents doing the school drop offs?

DirectionToPerfection · 14/08/2022 22:17

More people missing the point 🤦

Itsbritneybitch22 · 14/08/2022 22:08

gatehouseoffleet · 13/08/2022 16:58

It does affect other people. For example when couples won't give way on pavements and you have to walk in the gutter, or during the pandemic when people were told to shop alone but couldn't cope without their partner. Or when you can't spend time with a friend without her partner turning up.

I had assumed all the 50 something couples who are joined at the hip are old married couples but having seen the sponsored ads for over 50s dating apps I've realised they're probably all loved up. It doesn't matter though. Let Go Of Your Partner's Hand When Someone Wants To Get Past You.

So it affects people that are walking down the road and during pandemics? Really 😂😂😂

OP
I have been a single mum and your post showed you was a single mum way before you mentioned it.

Just because you’re used to doing things alone it doesn’t mean that people that aren’t should have to do things alone, why wouldn’t both parents want to be at the school open evenings, all the things you mentioned are quite reasonable and normal tbh.

I mean if I was going to a ladies night and my husband rocked up like heyyyyy girls then yea it would be more WTF but at family meals and school meetings? I don’t think it’s unusual.

Also most people I would imagine, actually marry people that they like and want to spend time with, including the children they made. Why not do school pick up together if you can?

People work and spend time away from their partners and children so perhaps they take the time when they can to see them?

RCats · 14/08/2022 22:07

I do think this is unreasonable. Why do you care if other couples like doing things together? Surely that's up to them and their choice?
You have your life and live it your way, and if you like to do things without your partner that's great, but if others would rather be with the other half what's the problem with that?

Hmm1234 · 14/08/2022 22:05

The first two points show familial solidarity you sound pathetic maybe annoyed your own partner doesn’t do this!?

StClare101 · 14/08/2022 22:04

HundredMilesAnHour · 13/08/2022 16:54

Totally agree with you OP. Some people are co-dependent and then use excuses like "we like each other" to cover up their weaknesses whilst managing to insult everyone else at the same time. Dreadful people.

Indeed. Particularly when you arrange to meet a friend one on one and their partner comes along for a drink or for the whole thing! It’s rude.

DirectionToPerfection · 14/08/2022 21:54

surreygirl1987 · 14/08/2022 21:50

Others are defensive of stuff that I haven't even mentioned, like doing the weekly shop together

Also a bit confused as in your opening post you literally alked about doing the shopping together as one of your examples...?

She said her ex in laws we're joined at the hip, and gave an example that her MIL wouldn't go to the shops without her DH.

She did not say there's anything wrong with a couple going to Tesco together. Only that it's a problem when they can never go separately.

I genuinely don't know why so many are misunderstanding this, unless it's deliberate.

surreygirl1987 · 14/08/2022 21:50

Others are defensive of stuff that I haven't even mentioned, like doing the weekly shop together

Also a bit confused as in your opening post you literally alked about doing the shopping together as one of your examples...?

RampantIvy · 14/08/2022 21:50

but then, is any couple together literally 24/7 365 days a year?

DH and I more or less are. He works from home, and he is semi retired. I go to the office one day a week and WFH for the rest of the week.

surreygirl1987 · 14/08/2022 21:48

But you aren't together 24/7 365 days a year are you @surreygirl1987.

No you're right we're not... but then, is any couple together literally 24/7 365 days a year? Retired people maybe, but it must surely be unusual for that to be the case for anyone under 60ish? We spent nearly all of our non-working time together anyway.

Vallmo47 · 14/08/2022 21:39

I can understand your point of view, OP. :) My daughter has a friend whose parents do every.single. school run together. In fact, they truly thought I was a single mum because I do them on my own and have for the longest time. When I then referenced my hubby to be they were shocked. I said “He works full time, I do this side of things”. We are all different. I do find it irritating at times because they walk along holding hands and trying to push a buggy, too. Many times I actually have to excuse myself and walk ahead of them because they have to walk side by side. Love is grand, but come on - a family of five who have very little understanding they’re blocking the way for others? That shit gets old fast.
I have zero jealousy issues, I’m happily engaged. I just don’t bring my husband to be everywhere I go.
Once a week I do go and do my weekly shop with DH. I can’t drive anymore and we both enjoy getting exactly what I want. I do all the top up shops by myself though, again because we are fine together and independently.
There was a time I wasn’t fine though, mentally. He was my rock and I couldn’t cope without him. I’m sure we raised quite a few eyebrows during this period, because I truly followed him around like a puppy.

Waferbiscuit · 14/08/2022 21:33

OP I think people are taking your examples too literally - they were just examples of instances you've seen, no need for people to deconstruct every example.

Anyway, I know the couples you mean - thee married couples that just overly rely on each other. IME the girls from school who perpetually had boyfriends then rushed to get married and never had periods of independence seem to be the ones who aren't able to do anything without dh.

I too am single and realize how important it is to be independent.

But you'll be getting a kicking for criticizing what couples do. I once called marriage 'dysfunctional codependence' because I do think it encourages a level of reliance and support which can become unhealthy and frankly can mean men use women, but... I got barked at and told 'I must be jealous' of married couples.

PS I love the comment by @WhimsicalGubbins criticizing you for 'coming onto an internet forum and complaining about how other people live their lives.' Um, duh, what if not is Mumsnet for?

Mummykate01 · 14/08/2022 21:23

This annoys me. I have two young children and we do family time with my husband. We also often meet friends and family together. However I also take the children myself to meet friends without him. I have a friend and her partner has to be there ever time we meet, even when I am on my own with the children. It makes it awkward as there is a lot of stuff you then just can’t talk about it. I don’t mind him being there sometimes but there is no need for all the time.

RampantIvy · 14/08/2022 21:21

But you aren't together 24/7 365 days a year are you @surreygirl1987. As you are both in the same profession and out of the house in term time I'm sure you will have plenty to talk about. This isn't what@DottyPeacock meant.

cadburyegg · 14/08/2022 21:19

FGS, so many posters are completely missing the point. The OP is talking about couples who are totally unable to spend any time apart whatsover. She is not bitter or jealous.

I think the ones missing the point are doing so deliberately to avoid considering that they might be in a bit of a codependent relationship.

Others are defensive of stuff that I haven't even mentioned, like doing the weekly shop together. Straw man argument.

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surreygirl1987 · 14/08/2022 21:16

What the hell do couples talk about if they’re together 24/7. I’m not convinced it makes a healthy relationship to never be apart.
Maybe my husband and I are unusual then, and lucky I guess, but this is often us. We are both teachers and right now we are on summer holidays. We're pretty much living in and out of each other's pockets and loving! When the kids are in nursery we play tennis together, paddle board together, do house DIY together, and it's just lovely! I see other friends as well (evenings and weekends as most are at work during the week) and that's lovely but a huge amount of time is spent with my husband and we NEVER run out of things to talk about. Maybe our shared hobbies means there's more to talk about actually! Anyway, as I said, maybe we're unusual. I wouldn't have it any other way though and I feel lucky to really enjoy my husband's company.

RampantIvy · 14/08/2022 21:15

As an example, when my dad died I spent the next few weeks travelling down to visit my mum every weekend to support her - a round trip of around 500 miles. I didn't expect DH to accompany me every time. We also had pets so it would have been difficult anyway.

cadburyegg · 14/08/2022 21:14

Lol I have no idea how many times I have to say that I have no issue with people going food shopping together and I didn't mention it in my original OP.!

Btw my kids have the same dad, I'm not sure how people think that this was achieved other than in a LTR... we were together for 11 years, married for 7! I haven't always been single 🤣

I appreciate everyone who has defended against the "you're bitter" comments. I find them funny 😄

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RampantIvy · 14/08/2022 21:12

FGS, so many posters are completely missing the point. The OP is talking about couples who are totally unable to spend any time apart whatsover. She is not bitter or jealous.

Stop projecting your insecurities. Most secure and happily together couples do spend some time apart - either pursuing hobbies, visiting their own families or going out with friends.

What is so difficult to understand about that?

DirectionToPerfection · 14/08/2022 21:07

RedStef1983 · 14/08/2022 20:45

I guess I’m in one of those rare couples where we like spending time together, we like each other’s family, and my husband likes to be actively involved in the raising of our child - inclusive of pick/up drop off at preschool and parents evenings!

we have no qualms leaving each other at home with the kid though, so we can go out with our friends.

Yes you're sooo special 😂

SleepingStandingUp · 14/08/2022 21:05

RedStef1983 · 14/08/2022 20:45

I guess I’m in one of those rare couples where we like spending time together, we like each other’s family, and my husband likes to be actively involved in the raising of our child - inclusive of pick/up drop off at preschool and parents evenings!

we have no qualms leaving each other at home with the kid though, so we can go out with our friends.

Yup, everyone else just detests their partners. You guys are just so special 🙄🙄

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