Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

@PollyRockets Thanks

Nah, I'm all about the shaming. It has it's uses.

@gnilliwdog 'twas quoted earlier in the thread but here you go, many studies actually see more than 25% for women (some even up to 37%!)

metro.co.uk/2017/12/07/one-four-straight-women-anal-sex-times-month-7139539/amp/

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5588879/

www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/benefits-of-anal-sex

I suppose I also am challenging the idea that something is mainstream because a lot of men seem to want to do it. If a lot of women don't want to do it it isn't really mainstream because women are half the population.

It's more like the 'expectation' has become mainstream, to men and women because of porn.

Probably the same amount of woman like it as always have. I've no idea what that is but guessing it's a minority. ( annececdotal, personal experience, this thread )

Throw in the risk of actual harm and it's a problem.

@gnilliwdog

You don't think posters on this thread saying the girls that do this are disgusting, it's perverse, gross and whatever else @Miffee and @excitingusername has come out with isnt shaming people?

You don't think categorically not believing women who say they enjoy it, they are brainwashed, pick me's, misogynists isn't shaming them?

Christ you need to work on your reading comprehension.

If it's added to the national sexual education curriculum yes

Thankfully consent from parents isn't required in secondary

So teachers could talk to 11-12 year olds about the pleasures of anal sex without telling the parents they’re going to do it?

Small risk. Well read the IBS threads. Being confined to the house, not eating, taking immodium daily. Planning trips out around loos, carrying radar keys, never mind all the intrusive uncomfortable procedure the NHS carry out.

It takes over your life, damages mental health. All for sexual pleasure. I don't think so.

Yes, where does the 25%figure come from please? Also, are we talking about females or does this include transwomen who may have different physiological concerns?

Nobody is shaming anyone for crying out loud.

I also would like to see that 25% figure backed up.

The issue is your second paragraph

It's not up to you to decide what your daughter finds pleasurable or not.

It doesn't matter if it's not worth it for you. It's not worth it for me either, that doesn't mean the women who do find it worthwhile are dirty, perverse, disgusting or whatever judgemental shit has been posted on here.

What isn't acceptable is shaming those who do enjoy it. It's also not acceptable to want to keep girls especially ignorant to how to practice safer anal sex.

25% of women have anal sex. There is a strong likelihood that many peoples children will give it a go.

Would you prefer her to know you need to be lubricated to high heavens and your partner has to go slowly to allow the muscles to relax or let the guy she is with who has got his ideas from porn shove it in because neither of them know any different?

I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.

Why don't you understand that for some women the enjoyment from anal sex is enough to warrant the small risks to their health.

And why can't you grasp that for most women that risk is unacceptable, and we don't want our daughters growing up thinking it's expected as part of a normal sex life.

I expect that the majority of women who have had anal sex did it to please a partner, rather than because they wanted it themselves. It's not generally pleasurable for a woman, and anyone with a reasonably knowledge of the female anatomy will understand why.

Thankfully consent from parents isn't required in secondary

As unfortunately as seen on this thread many want to bury their heads in the sand and are happy for their kids to join them

I would be genuinely interested to know how many parents would consent to their daughters being able to attend a session at school discussing the risks and benefits of anal sex.

I know this kind of survey isn’t a possibility but it’s something that interests me.

@RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer I'll be doing exactly the same with mine, you have to establish the principle they can talk to you about anything because everything comes up, and a quick look on cosmopolitan.com shows how much things have changed...

This article on whether consent is always meaningful in young girls is good:

jezebel.com/nervous-game-1849401303

@WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps where have I said people should be doing it?

I've tried it, twice. First time felt nothing, second time hurt

Never again.

So I don't 'have' anal sex

I'm saying people should be educated as if they chose to have anal sex there are things that need to be done to make it less harmful.

But nah of course, I'm writing this whilst plaiting my dick hairs on the toilet

@FreudayNight do you think anyone who has anal sex is being abused?

Such strange people on here sometimes

Do you think only telling children

Don't have children, you'll get ripped from your front to your back, it hurts and most women never fully control their bladders ever again

Is scaring them?

As that's what that poster was doing

Only presenting the negatives of a situation

What would be responsible is telling children

Childbirth carries many risks, such as tearing, doing X exercises and delivering in Y position can help reduce this risk. As does pushing for a C section if you are at risk of a very large baby and overdue requiring an induction. Many people find children worth the pain they go through, some don't.

Well we will have to agree to disagree. Thank God there are plenty of other women to help build your daughters’ boundaries from those that would be complicit in them being abused.

Why don't you understand that for some women the enjoyment from anal sex is enough to warrant the small risks to their health.

Some people don't find their children worth the lifelong damage child birth can cause

I think many on this thread could do with reminding not everyone thinks the same way as you. Not everyone has the same priorities, passions and pleasure spots.

There are people out there who love free diving, doing dangerous manoeuvres in flight, travelling to countries that are dangerous.

People do their own risk vs reward analysis

The key for that to be done properly is balanced and factual information to help them make those decisions.

People on this thread who enjoy anal sex, do so knowing there is a risk to their health. That risk is worth it for them.

I actively chose to have C-sections with all my children as nothing is worth being torn front to back.

I was about to say the same. I don't believe @PollyRockets is a woman, and also find their claim they never have anal sex very odd, as they have been banging on for ages about how it's normal and people should be doing it. Weird.

Oh give over. You haven't read the thread.

Thank you direction

There was no detail, just telling her about boundaries etc

Hardly

Many women actively enjoy anal sex

If my daughters are in that group I'd rather them know how to do so safely

I agree. Education by some posters seems to mean presenting the concept as part of a normal sex life. I object to people saying children should know the 'benefits' too. There is no way this sort of language is not partisan and manipulative.