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Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

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Doyoumind · 12/08/2022 10:01

Apart from all the violence etc porn portrays as normal, anal sex is definitely treated as an everyday thing that women enjoy. I don't personally. I know some women claim they do but I've certainly known men who pressure for it and I'm guessing it's only got worse in the years since I was dating.

This article suggests women are unknowingly entering into something that can cause serious injuries.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/11/rise-in-popularity-of-anal-sex-has-led-to-health-problems-for-women

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Perplexed0522 · 12/08/2022 20:32

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 20:26

@Perplexed0522

Why not?

Not everyone has parents who are open about sex

Children such as yours

I think I live on another planet.

I would love to see a teacher be happy to teach children about the pleasures of anal sex, oral sex, three-ways, sex enhancing drugs, sex toys, how to give the best blow job, the joys of being spanked and tied up etc.

Im sure teachers would jump at the chance to do that just in case some children aren’t receiving these discussions at home 😂

How would a teacher be qualified to give out advice on these matters anyway? What would be the requirement? 😂

FenlandFuckwit · 12/08/2022 20:29

It’s part of ‘rough sex’ becoming mainstream and normalised because of porn, injures will happen if you are not relaxed, take it slow and use plenty of lube. Sex education does not need to advise on this because a loving couple will work out what works for them. The problem is 100% the 24/7 access to porn that is depicting violence and anal at 100mph, (some) men think this translates into real life and have zero respect for how their partner feels. Sex education needs to focus more on how porn is unrealistic and harmful and encourage teenagers to shun it.

Stoma · 12/08/2022 20:29

Oh and
^
If you attempt any sexual activity, always make sure the area is lubricated.^

So you don't need to 'promote' it outright but give teens the tools.

Stoma · 12/08/2022 20:27

@Perplexed0522 it's absolutely possible to talk about anal sensibly

Example: some People enjoy anal sex, however, it can be dangerous due to XYZ injuries. Some of you may already have watched lien, objectification, not respecting boundaries and consent. Can anyone tell me how you should react if your boyfriend/girlfriend is unsure about anal sex? What STIs can be transferred?

It's not comparable to sadism and threesomes. Anal sex is another type of penetration in the body, not a scenario (don't know how to explain it). Oral, vaginal, anal.

Teenagers know what anal is, why oppose discussion? Not talking about it in sex Ed does not prevent anal sex when porn use is rife. Where else are people supposed to learn about this, do we just leave it to porn? Which, even if you like anal, portrays it very unrealistically?

Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about cock rings, they don't cause harm, afaik? They're just sex toys or whatever.

Perplexed0522 · 12/08/2022 20:26

Midlifemusings · 12/08/2022 20:20

What message would that send to gay boys? That anuses are not meant for sex, that it isn't normal, and isn't part of healthy sexual activity?

Well seeing as the men have their prostrate gland in their anus which would make sex pleasurable, and the fact that their anatomy is different to that of females, it isn’t really a comparison.

The issue that is being discussed is the potential harm that can be caused to women if they have anal sex - it is not about two men having anal sex.

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 20:26

@Perplexed0522

Why not?

Not everyone has parents who are open about sex

Children such as yours

Burgoo · 12/08/2022 20:22

On a side note re: 50 Shades of Grey... Its ironic/interesting with the whole #MeToo and consent etc that it was the biggest selling book for women in years. Given that men are supposed to be the sex fiends yet women seemed to love hearing about Mr Grey and his sadistic shenanigans

Perplexed0522 · 12/08/2022 20:20

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 20:18

@Perplexed0522

Well yes it does make you a prude

Why not discuss all aspects of sex with children

My own mother told me about oral sex, I talk to my teens about most of that listed quite regularly

My son especially

Mothers talking to their children about it all = normal.

Saying it should be included in the school curriculum = not normal.

Midlifemusings · 12/08/2022 20:20

What message would that send to gay boys? That anuses are not meant for sex, that it isn't normal, and isn't part of healthy sexual activity?

easylisten · 12/08/2022 20:20

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Burgoo · 12/08/2022 20:20

I don't think that people (mainly men) believe that porn is "real" in any sense and women certainly must consent to acts in the bedroom. It's the same in gay relationships; injuries happen when you insert anything into an orifice that is usually one way (no judgment, do what you want in the bedroom I say!) Same with rough sex in vaginal spaces, if you aren't careful you can cause problems.

I do think that people need to research things before they try them though. Taking a penis up the bum is no easy task and must be done slowly and with a lot of er lube! Both men AND women need to take responsibility for what they consent to in the bedroom - this isn't men imposing their will on women. If you don't want to take it up the bum, don't.

As an aside, I've had more gay friends who have had physical health complications from anal sex than female. Prolapses galore 😱

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 20:18

@Perplexed0522

Well yes it does make you a prude

Why not discuss all aspects of sex with children

My own mother told me about oral sex, I talk to my teens about most of that listed quite regularly

My son especially

Perplexed0522 · 12/08/2022 20:12

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 19:59

@Perplexed0522

Since they do for other aspects of sex yes

It's called balance and giving people all the information so they can make informed choices

The 'if you have sex you'll get pregnant and die' methods of sexual education of yesteryear didn't work out too well

So where does it end?

What other kinks should school be telling the children are sexually pleasurable?

Threesomes?
Swinging?
Deep Throat?
Poppers?
Cock rings?
Sadism?

Maybe they could put 50 Shades of Grey on the TV for them?

There are some things that are not suitable to be taught in school and discussing the pleasures associated with sexual acts that the female body is not designed for and can cause the girls long term harm is one of them.

if that makes me a prude then so be it.

oakleaffy · 12/08/2022 20:06

Passmeaplacard · 12/08/2022 16:36

I’m pretty sure that anal sex is the cause of my “IBS” I just don’t feel right down there it’s very much like something has changed physically.
I wasn’t pressured to do it by my partner but I do think I probably felt a slight expectation to be fun/dirty whatever when we met as he was younger than me.
Its good to see this article as I have gay friends and I’ve always wondered how they can do this on a regular basis with no issues yet I think I’m now damaged

I know a few Gay men who say they don’t either give or receive anal sex.
People assume it’s the “Go to” option, but seems BJ’s are more comfortable.

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 19:59

@Perplexed0522

Since they do for other aspects of sex yes

It's called balance and giving people all the information so they can make informed choices

The 'if you have sex you'll get pregnant and die' methods of sexual education of yesteryear didn't work out too well

Perplexed0522 · 12/08/2022 19:58

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 19:41

Of course you teach about the positives

It's called a balance

Showing all angles so people can make INFORMED choices

I was told sex feels good when in school for sex Ed.

You genuinely believe schools should talk to students about the pleasure of anal sex?

Jesus.

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 19:46

DobbyHasASock · 12/08/2022 19:04

Well you are still wrong. As it starts in year six. Unless you are including puberty information and naming body parts, which is mostly largely year six anyone.
Personally, if any teaching professional starting advocating for anal sex education, outside of giving the risks and why it's not a good idea of course, I'd be suggesting they get their hardrive checked.

I began sex education in year 5

As did my 2 eldest

Most decent parents start well before that too at home

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 19:43

gnilliwdog · 12/08/2022 19:07

@DobbyHasASock Agreed. It is highly suspect to teach to the 'young girls' how to have anal sex with 'men.'

Why would it just be girls and women being taught this?

Men have anal sex too, even the straight ones sometimes like a finger or two up the backside

PollyRockets · 12/08/2022 19:41

DobbyHasASock · 12/08/2022 19:26

There is no reason to teach about the positives, so called, of anal sex.

Sex education is not focused on positives, aside from the relationship building, respect side which is generally quite separate.
It is about safety and pregnancy knowledge, respect and boundaries.
Anal sex doesn't fit this.
Although I do believe the stats on prolapse etc would be useful but they can be communicated without the anal normalising narrative.

Of course you teach about the positives

It's called a balance

Showing all angles so people can make INFORMED choices

I was told sex feels good when in school for sex Ed.

Midlifemusings · 12/08/2022 19:34

We also need to get away from the messaging that all boys want is sex and that anyone who isn't wanting sex all the time is some kind of weird aberation. There are so many social messages that normalize guys being only about sex and only wanting sex and assuming that ever guy wants sex with every girl he meets or else he is broken, not a real guy and creepy / weird. Also that he needs to be good in bed from Day 1 and know how to please a woman and be adventurous and not boring. When a guy wants to take it slower he gets insulted for being not that into her and that if he liked her he would have made moves. All the BDE and SDE is harmful as well. Lots of harmful social messaging about sex for everyone.

DobbyHasASock · 12/08/2022 19:26

There is no reason to teach about the positives, so called, of anal sex.

Sex education is not focused on positives, aside from the relationship building, respect side which is generally quite separate.
It is about safety and pregnancy knowledge, respect and boundaries.
Anal sex doesn't fit this.
Although I do believe the stats on prolapse etc would be useful but they can be communicated without the anal normalising narrative.

Stoma · 12/08/2022 19:23

16+ is old enough to hear about it, and at that age, they're already familiar with what it is. And it shouldn't be all positive either. Porn doesn't show you the downsides so it's an opportunity to actually have a balanced discussion. Same as how there's discussions about consent in school.

Americano75 · 12/08/2022 19:16

DobbyHasASock · 12/08/2022 19:11

Gosh that takes me back.
Class of Frigid 99 lol.

I'm showing my age I know, but remember how that was the way some boys would try and shame/coerce girls into sex they didn't really want?

DobbyHasASock · 12/08/2022 19:14

By professionals giving children tips on how to have anal sex, they would be endorsing it.
Sex education is based on research and a balancing of factors in this country. We already teach how porn isn't real and about internet safety and consent.

I see no reason to add in how to have slightly less risky anal sex. It's grooming.

Stoma · 12/08/2022 19:11

DobbyHasASock · 12/08/2022 19:04

Well you are still wrong. As it starts in year six. Unless you are including puberty information and naming body parts, which is mostly largely year six anyone.
Personally, if any teaching professional starting advocating for anal sex education, outside of giving the risks and why it's not a good idea of course, I'd be suggesting they get their hardrive checked.

I don't think you can ignore it since boys are watching porn anyway. Maybe it's more suitable for 16+ though.

Nobody teaching sex education should be promoting anything, besides contraception and consent, regardless of what it is they're speaking about.

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