Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

@Miffee

That's why it's good to back this up at home

I've had many discussions with my eldest 2 children about anal sex, oral, consent, threesomes, various 'kinks' including BDSM and we even watched a great documentary on puppy play.

So is being fucked up the nose. Is that okay too? Extra lube needed I would imagine. Still as long as we tell them to go slow I'm sure it will be fine.

@Miffee

Ah yes

The don't do it because you'll die campaigns have worked so well in the past

Scare tactics don't work

Honest and open discussions around all aspects of anal are what is needed, so people can make informed decisions around what they consent to.

I think it does. I do not want to educate women to perform an act that may quite likely hurt them. Certainly not as part of the curriculum.

Well at least you are consistent. I don't think there would be much time for maths and English if girls had to learn all about the various dangerous sex acts men may like to subject them to but maybe we could extend the school day.

Anal is a type of penetration. That's all there is to it. Whether it hurts or not has no bearing on it.

Indeed, twas quite the scandal when I flashed my ankles at the parson.

The horse has bolted so there is nothing to do but burn down all stables. How about a massive public health campaign? How about teaching boys that if they engage in this and cause damage its a criminal offence? How about we ban anal porn? Look at what we did with smoking. We can change norms of we trym

Oh bloody hell, do you have to nitpick everything? Fantasies/fetishes, whatever you call it, you know the point I'm making.

@Miffee

As stated in previous posts I think this should be covered yes

Education is the way out of a lot of issues faced in the modern world

@Stoma How are sadism and threesomes fantasies? They involve real sexual acts and are not imaginary. As I said before, anal sex may be a type of penetration, but it differs from oral and vaginal because it is frequently painful for the recipient.

Okay. So are we teaching safety methods for all sex acts? What about teenage girls that may want to try masochism? Choking? Do they just have to risk it or are we teaching that to? If not please explain why?

@Miffee

The key here is the horse is already bolted

Pretending anal is still taboo and therefore no one should do it isn't helping anyone

It's now seen as 'normal' so needs to be treated the same as other methods of sexual penetration and therefore be covered when educating children.

I bet when you were young a lot of things were shameful

I wonder if you feel the same about all areas now less stigmatised

Women’s boundaries are being constantly challenged

its not normal sex it’s a sex act that some may enjoy but it’s far more enjoyable for a man

just because some enjoy an act doesn’t make it normal

we really need to stop normalising sex acts that can be very harmful

Has it ever occurred to you that you can't explain it because the difference is something you have created in your head and doesn't actually exist?

@Miffee do you even know what you're on about at this point? I said anal, oral and vaginal are types of penetration that's why they're different to other fantasies like 'sadism and threesomes'. It doesn't matter if you hate anal sex, it's still a type of penetration and should be discussed. I conveyed how a teacher could approach anal sex cautiously.

I made a completely coherent and sensible post but it's not good enough/incomprehensible to you unless I'm saying 'ewwww anal, cool girls, disgusting'.

You are missing the point.

The point is it was taboo and now apparently it's so normal we need to teach teenage girls how to do it lest they have life long disabilities.

I am asking why this has happened, my conclusion is its because of porn. The question then becomes if we just accept that this dangerous sex act is now normal why does it stop there? The poster I was replying to was trying to argue that anal is somehow different for reasons they admitted they couldn't rationalise. I am pointing out it isn't.

@Miffee

So you'd prefer to pretend no one will try anal sex instead?

If a young girl wants to try it out she should be armed with the information needed to make it as painless as possible

How anyone could be against that is beyond me

But then again you have no issue shaming women for consensual acts of sexual pleasure so...

Well my generation will have a lot less incontinence problems but I suppose we are missing out because although we dodged that bullet a tiny minority of us will never know the "joy" of anal sex. And you think thats a win.

It shouldn't be normal for teenage girls to have to address this. They are not emotionally mature enough to find a partner they can safely dangerous sexual acts with. The only group of people more unsuited is teenage boys who presumably the girls will be doing this with.

I am an adult woman. I have a loving and trusted sex life. I don't need to be actively educated on a sex act to try it, I discuss it and explore it with a trusted partner and seek out further information if needs be. It doesn't matter if its anal, or BDSM or anything else. The thing that is important is the trust and respect, not the practical aspect of the task. This is how it should be. It's comes with maturity, self respect and confidence.

It's horrifying to me that you think teenage girls should know how to avoid "tearing their arsehole" (as one anal advicate put it) by using lube and going slow. If this can happen there are two scenarios here

1-The suggestion is that this can happen immediately when the task is initiated which indicates that this just isn't safe.

2-The suggestion is that the women will suffer discomfort and pain until severe damage is done.

The answer to either of those scenarios is not teach teenage girls to lube up.

Many (men) take drugs (poppers) to help with the pain.

I suppose this could be included in the lesson too then? It gives the girls more options to try rather than just say no?

When I was a teen girls having anal sex was seen as filthy and disgusted not something we needed to learn about in HSE.

And ?

Don't understand what the relevance of this is.

How old are you?

It used to be filthy for women to express a desire for vaginal sex.

Many gay men find anal sex quite painful and do not get pleasure from it at all. However it is the only penetrative sex they can have given their anatomy. Many do it for the same reasons as women - or feel even more coerced or pressured because they don't have another option for penetrative sex. Diseases are much higher for men having anal sex. Many take drugs (poppers) to help with the pain.

I think it is a bit disgusting to be honest. It's not at all what the human body was designed for.

@Miffee

So you think it's a good thing for young girls and women to be shamed?

You sound like my gran!

Has it ever occurred to you that you can't explain it because the difference is something you have created in your head and doesn't actually exist?

Do you honestly believe that porn hasn't normalised this act? When I was a teen girls having anal sex was seen as filthy and disgusted not something we needed to learn about in HSE.

So what happens when porn normalises the next thing? Do we just throw our hands up and teach girls how to safely engage in a gang bang?

@Perplexed0522

Probably the same qualifications they currently carry to discuss sex and intimacy in schools

Some teachers find that embarrassing - doesn't stop them doing their job though

@Stoma It's another type of penetration, but one that many women find painful, if this thread is anything to go by. So it is not like oral or vaginal. You couldn't responsibly cover the topic without explaining that it is painful for many people as well as potentially risky.