Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

People being you?

Don't think you not being able to understand is the same as everyone finding it difficult

How???? The point is that part of your body is not adapted to that use. Putting it to that use creates risk of harm. That doesn’t go away because you think he’s a nice bloke for gods sake.

I'm 😂and 😳at the bumsex positive posters.

For parents reading it's important to be clear.
That children starting naming body parts and learn that an egg seeks a sperm is not a justification that we can slip anal sex in too.
Therefore, when posters talk about teaching about sex in year five people will draw the wrong conclusion.
As what we actually teach is way more in line with what sensible posters who think teaching how to have anal sex is grooming and harmful.
It's misleading to suggest because we teach some aspects of sex all can and should be covered.

@TullyApplebottom of course the risk is minimized by who you are doing it with!

Just like the risks of all manner of sexual injuries are minimised when having sex with someone you trust or like

Who said children are taught how to have sex in year 5?

It was correctly stated sex education starts in year 5

You really are on a roll misreading and or misrepresenting

Sorry was busy, just to clear up a little misconception.
A poster was claiming teachers teach children how to have sex in year five. This is not true. In year five children can be taught the absolute basics of reproduction and sex from a very mechanical angle.

Any teacher talking to your 10 year old about how to get pleasure from sex, anal etc and pushing that kind of agenda needs their hard drive tested.

We have poor sex education take up amongst certain demographics in this country. I wish the up the butt advocates would stop and realise just who else would withdraw and how it would effect them if sex education became a how to manual, including risky behaviours, rather than centres on safety and respect as it is now.

The government has recently added components that deal with the normalisation of porn. As in, teaching it isn't real, depicts unsafe acts, harmful for actors etc. So no need to teach pupils specific harmful sex acts.

This is not the same as the American abstinence model. The UK has founded a sex education programme that is informative whilst steering clear of advocating acts. Pretending they are the same thing shows your agenda.
We don't need to give in to the normalisation of the harm of girls. What's next? Safe breathplay? Well judging by some of the don't shame me, comments, yes that's next.
It's not about you. It's about protecting children from acts that harm them. No adult in their right mind will teach children to self harm.

The point being made is that the physical risk involved in an act does not disappear or lessen because you happen to have positive feelings about the other participant, and it’s beyond stupid to suggest it does. I’m sorry you didn’t manage to grasp that, but I hope it’s clear now.

I think this gets the prize for most idiotic response on this thread.

I am pretty ambivalent on this topic but loved this reply

The human body was not “designed” at all. Even if we assume that you were using a clumsy metaphor for the effects of evolution, though, it’s still a facile thing to write.

We we’re not “designed” to ride bikes, wear clothes, live in houses, or go to the cinema either, yet no-one’s stupid enough to claim that we therefore shouldn’t do any of these.

and are you not aware of what is popular on porn

Or read sex tips aimed at young women often at teenagers

there is no shaming about anal from it, it’s been normalised and that a far more serious issue for
woman than anal being shamed by a few on mn that is predominantly women

fancy what many woman saying actually I don’t like anal and I don’t want young women coerced into feeling they should have anal sex as they might enjoy it/their partner will enjoy it

That's my comment. Where have I frothed?

Not you specifically @StanleyBostitch General frothing on here.

@excitingusername DFOD

@HRTQueen Again about the shaming anal is far from shamed now why are you making out it is

Have you not read this whole thread? Lots of shaming going on.

Don't worry, sunglasses gets quite passionate in defence of this - a worthy cause for any woman. Is probably a teacher or a guide leader. Her great fear is that anal is shamed away. Obviously that dark and dystopian possibility is a distressing concept for all of us.

Again about the shaming anal is far from shamed now why are you making out it is

there is a far bigger issue and that is women being physically harmed because they are being coerced into having anal sex

the anus does not self lubricate the vagina does. Oral sex may not always be pleasurable but unless someone is deliberately being aggressive ie. shoving their dick far down into their partners mouth it’s not likely to cause harm (but yes sti’s can be passed on)

and again I do feel a man should be shamed if he wants to have rough anal sex with their partner lube or no lube and potential harm her

I suppose on this thread some women have been coerced into anal sex, others raped. We are discussing an article that posits physical damage as a result of this act. Also the way so many men seem conditioned by porn to think this is a reasonable sexual demand and the pressure that puts on women. Also there are women on this thread who found the demand for anal went hand in hand with rough sex and other abusive behaviours by men. Then some people comment that they enjoy it and we all need to learn how it can be done more safely, or just say no. I suppose it feels to me that these women are adding to the problem, trivialising other women's trauma. I don't want to shame anyone, though.

That's my comment. Where have I frothed?

Go on and enjoy your anal but stop using your narrow experience to minimise this issue.

God alive you're so busy frothing about your dislike of anal sex ( fair enough - you do you ) that you haven't noticed that the 'issue' of hasn't been minimised.

Education has been scorned as normalising
Someone who talks about the issue with her kids is 'a groomer '

I'm not sure what has been deemed appropriate in the face of the porn tsunami we face - let's shame anal away is what I get
from this thread

Vaginal sex and oral sex can also be a a sex act that can be very painful and can be dangerous… what’s needed is knowledge and awareness that while different people enjoy different thing, it’s not for others but give them the knowledge of how to do these things safety. Not shame them for being curious or not talk about it so they don’t know they can say no.

This ^^

No one cares if you enjoy anal. The issue is that it's become normalised and now young girls are feeling pressured into doing it and are sustained life altering injuries as a result. People banging on about lube and taking it slowly are missing the point...clearly young people AREN'T using lube and/or taking it slowly because it's become normalised and they think the same rules apply as vaginal sex. In addition, girls cannot provide fully informed consent if they do not know about AND completely understand the risks. The 'it won't happen to me' mentality of the young is fed by the fact that no one is talking about the fact that it did happen to them and their lives will never be the same.

Go on and enjoy your anal but stop using your narrow experience to minimise this issue.

😂😂Well, the topic requires it surely?

*@Mooshamoo Mostly the back passage advocates are concerned with is that they feel no shame or are reminded of any repercussion for their activities. They care not about any significant medical or societal consequences - just they don't want their feelings to be ones of shame when they play around with fecal matter. Number 1 priority is freedom to do this particular thing. V important and also v important that they bring this joyous legacy to children.

But shame makes them very sad, so we have to be quiet about any issues.*

You don't have talk some shite.

I completely agree.

I certainly prioritize women who want to spread the message of how much love anal way below those who have been left disabled after being pressurised into unwanted sex acts because “you don’t know until you try it.”

Sorry/Not Sorry for telling girls that actually they can just say No-Fuck-Off-You-Porn-Addled-Grim-Thing.

@Mooshamoo Mostly the back passage advocates are concerned with is that they feel no shame or are reminded of any repercussion for their activities. They care not about any significant medical or societal consequences - just they don't want their feelings to be ones of shame when they play around with fecal matter. Number 1 priority is freedom to do this particular thing. V important and also v important that they bring this joyous legacy to children.

But shame makes them very sad, so we have to be quiet about any issues.