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To buy a house I feel is too small

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GeriatricMillennial · 04/08/2022 19:48

My husband and I are finally in the process of buying our first house, a good decade or so after most people we know. We have two young children, 3 and nine months, and no plans to have any more, but I’m starting to feel concerned the house we are going for is already too small. it is approx 800sq ft and I believe v little possibility to extend - it is a leasehold owned by the town’s heritage foundation and I don’t think we would get permission to cut down a mature tree that is growing close to the back of the house where we would extend out. There isn’t space for a staircase to go up into the loft.

I’m trying to tell myself that we’ll make it work, but looking around at the piles of stuff on EVERY spare surface and corner in our larger rental, I think it will feel quite cluttered and claustrophobic. However, if we pull out now there is nothing else in the area I would want to buy, and we would be paying more on a new mortgage with interest rates going up. Though this would still be much much less costly than having to move out in a few years to get more space I know!

We could possibly stretch our budget very slightly, but in the extortionate Home County we live in, this won’t go far, and would probably be a more ugly house in a worse location. I feel some time pressure to move as I would really like to be in situ to make the primary school application deadline by January.

This does feel very first world problems as we are so lucky to be able to buy anything at all, but has anyone been in this boat before? Are we making a big mistake?

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Daisydurrbridge · 15/11/2024 15:04

What are the measurements of the bedrooms? I have raised three children in my house which has a smaller area. I have no dining room, same size living room and slightly larger kitchen by a 1 foot each way..

i think you are in the situation where you have expanded your possessions to fill the space available. To make this work you have to give up on the ‘inevitable’ attitude regarding how many possessions you all have. Declutter now and I think you will be pleased at the amount of extra space you have.

ChirpyPeachTraybake · 15/11/2024 13:54

Edit: I thought I was creating my own thread! Sorry, will try and make my own one. This doesn't relate to the OP

Hi I have a question about a shared ownership house that I may be moving into with my husband and 1 year old. The only problem is it's quite bit small and I'm not sure about some things on the lease like the length and how the rent rises are calculated
Here's my pros and cons list for the house, what would you do if it was you?

Pros

  • It's the perfect area, near outstanding schools for my 1 year old
  • The street is very family friendly, kids and good community
  • good parking
  • it's cheaper than what I pay now in rent
  • shared ownership, foot on the housing ladder we wouldn't get otherwise
  • 3 bedrooms, up from 2
  • near some people I know in a city without my family
  • attic and large shed for storage
  • would feel like a secure family home, could have another baby which we want.

Cons

  • the bedrooms are quite small, the downstairs doesn't have much space, no utility room only a small kitchen and small lounge
  • The previous owner hasn't taken care of the house, broken window, holes in wall, bathroom needs entirely replacing
  • it's shared ownership, we will be at the mercy of a housing association, can't make changes without their permission. Etc
  • rent rises are yearly and based on RPI, newer new builds scrapped this as its unfair to tenants, anxious about buying into this
  • lease length is 112 years left, we would move in 10 years time, but we would HAVE to move since the lease length will look unattractive the longer we wait
  • when we move its unlikely we will be able to get a house in the same area
  • shared ownership so I'm not sure if we will build much equity in 10 years time as the deposit will be small and the housing association will take 60%

I think I could make do with the smaller house, if I knew it would be secure in terms of the rent rises and lease length

What would you do?

SundayTeatime · 07/08/2022 20:23

Single brick is normal and nothing to be concerned about. Most older houses are single brick. Mine is. My concern would be that it’s leasehold. How long is the lease? I’m not sure I’d want a leasehold house ever.

TheBikiniExpert · 07/08/2022 20:18

I'm going to go against the grain and say if it feels too small now it will feel even smaller as the kids get bigger. Teenagers take up a lot of space!

Minecraftatemychild · 07/08/2022 20:12

To be blunt: very few people can afford to but in the same area they’ve been renting (or where they work, come to that). You’re going to have to chooae between a house the right size for you, or moving to a cheaper area, or renting for life 😬

We chose the 1 hr commute miles from family for the big house and its great but you may feel differently 🤷‍♀️

whatshouldIdo2022 · 07/08/2022 18:51

We have oil and an ancient old boiler, we did look at getting a combi but are undecided because wherever they put it, it will cause problems like replacing flooriing or having pipes up the interior walls. Combi boilers can apparently be quite big and the one we were recommended is the same size as our old boiler but can't go in the convenient boiler alcove so we'd lose space elsewhere by changing. Another plus of a smaller house is less to clean! I also have a sort of motto that any furniture needs to have a storage element so we have 2 ottoman beds, a kitchen trolley that offers more storage and also counter space etc.

NancyVicious · 07/08/2022 18:42

When I first viewed my house I thought it was tiny in comparison to my rental.i walked straight out. But after a couple of weeks contemplating it was what I could really afford rather than a bigger place that would stretch my finances mortgage wise, I went back and realised that we could make it work.

We've been here several years now and I actually love my little house. Having a smaller place is a great way of not collecting loads of junk, you only have what you need. Cheaper energy bills.

GeriatricMillennial · 07/08/2022 16:18

@whatshouldIdo2022 that’s good to hear about the heating. We will be replacing an old Baxi boiler in the lounge but not sure what to get. I would like a combi as would free up space in the master bedroom cupboard taking out the tank, but understand (mainly from MN threads, god bless you all) they aren’t always great. Can I ask what you have?

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GeriatricMillennial · 07/08/2022 16:16

@Umbellifer thank you for the reassurance! Solid walls are common in the town we are looking at too and they seem to sell well, so hopefully all ok

@Anotherdayanotherdisappointment @mistermagpie @Thatsenoughnow @whatshouldIdo2022 thank you all so much for sharing your experience of living in smaller houses! I’m glad it has worked for you, and I’m sure it can work for us too. I expected everyone to tell me to run for the hills, but perhaps in these times having lower outgoings is more important than the big house. @Thatsenough I think you’re right on the money with my feeling that we are entitled to a bigger house. My husband and I largely have ourselves to blame by choosing holidays and wine over a deposit, but world events conspired against us too and I do feel bitter, but need to get over it. Posing this question has really helped on this path. Thank you all, I really appreciate the insights.

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whatshouldIdo2022 · 05/08/2022 13:16

We have a 'small' house, living and dining rooms are 13'8 by 9'8 and we have no hallway really, the front door opens onto a small area at the bottom of the stairs with the downstairs rooms either side. Our kitchen is 9'4 by 9'3 but has a utility big enough for white goods and boots/coats. I actually find it fine, I was really worried it would be too small but I like the layout. We use one room for a big corner sofa, tv and kids toys and the other for a dining table pushed against the window and a chair/sideboard etc. We do have a big understairs cupboard which helps. If I were you I would use the smaller room as a sitting room and think about a corner sofa if you can, they seem huge but it seems to free up more floor space. Our house is solid wall and whilst not warm it isn't freezing either. Its a lot more pleasant in the heat than our old 1960s build. What sort of heating does it have?

Thatsenoughnow · 05/08/2022 13:11

It doesn't have to be your dream house to get you on the ladder. Have a really ruthless declutter, and go to Ikea and get some clever storage. You'll make it work. Families have lived in those kind of houses for generations and successfully raised their children in them.

I live in quite a small house that i can't extend, (2 rooms downstairs, three small bedrooms) but it's big enough for us. Let go of the idea that you should be entitled to a bigger or better house, and ask yourself if it's good enough for now. I bought mine thinking Id be there for a couple of years then move again but actually i love that we haven't tied ourselves into a huge mortgage that we can't pay with the cost of living increase. If we had moved to the big 4 bed with a garage i was dreaming of, we would be right up the creek now.

mistermagpie · 05/08/2022 13:03

Sorry - I should say - we have TWO sheds and had the loft floored for storage.

mistermagpie · 05/08/2022 13:02

We live in a very small three bed house. It's tiny really, two rooms downstairs and no proper hallway. We do have three bedrooms but we also have three kids so the eldest two have to share.

Honestly, it's fine. I am sometimes a bit embarrassed about it when my friends with swanky houses come over, but I actually love our house. We bought later in life after we both lost money on break-ups/divorce and in other property, so we just never had the budget that some of our friends do.

Plus side is, we both work part time. It's not an expensive house and if something happens economically then we can manage.

We will try to move at some point so the kids can have their own rooms (they are still young and would choose to share) but only for that reason, I would happily stay here.

Umbellifer · 05/08/2022 12:46

OP all houses built before a certain date had solid brick walls, don’t pay it any mind at all - where I live the Victorian terraces sell on a regular basis and it’s not something that anyone ever worries about.

Anotherdayanotherdisappointment · 05/08/2022 12:16

We did it. Moved from a large 4 bed semi rental to buy a slightly bigger than average 3 bed terrace. It's not our dream house but it'll do as our first step on the ladder. We'd never be able to buy a 4 bed in our area (also home counties) without building some equity elsewhere first.

It can be cramped but we make it work. YY to decluttering before moving, and again once you've moved and seen where everything fits.

GeriatricMillennial · 05/08/2022 12:01

@ozymandiusking thank you for asking your husband, does he work in this kind of area? I knew about the lack of insulation but not the selling it on aspect - this is quite concerning. I may have my terminology wrong - it is a solid brick wall (so no cavity) rather than a single layer of bricks if you know what I mean - I wonder if your husband would know if this is different in terms of resale?!

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HairyScaryMonster · 05/08/2022 07:35

I really wouldn't. The single brick, cold and harder to sell on would really bother me. And I hate homes with freehold. I really value separate living spaces. Silly things like is there a space for everyone's shoes or will you constantly be walking over a pile in the tiny hallway. But my priorities are different to yours.

Redshoeblueshoe · 04/08/2022 23:11

Absolutely go for it. I know 2 different couples that did this last year, both downsizing from rental, it's going really well for both of them

ozymandiusking · 04/08/2022 22:53

My husband has just said, if it's single brick,

  1. you can't cavity wall insulate.
  2. If you wish to sell in the future it make be difficult, as Building Societies are sometimes loathed to lend on single brick houses. It must be very difficult for you .
GeriatricMillennial · 04/08/2022 21:06

@ozymandiusking according to the estate agent the measurements for downstairs are:
living room 11’2” x 15’11”
dining room 11’7” x 9’11”
kitchen 8’4” x 9’11”
hallway 5’ x 5’2”

As I said in the previously post unfortunately in this case small probably equals chilly going by the EPC

@WhiteFire thats interesting to see, thank you! Though looks tiny compared to my house so I’m wondering if I got the measurements wrong, or those are all v generous rooms in the Persimmon house!

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GeriatricMillennial · 04/08/2022 20:53

It is good to hear positivity about going for it too, thank you all. Though @dreamersdown I wouldn’t say cosy as it’s an E on the EPC! And only single brick walls.

So dream house this is not, but the best of the dregs left by the pandemic gold rush. Eff you, stamp duty holiday

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WhiteFire · 04/08/2022 20:52

Is it two or three bed?
It's an ok size imo, but you would need to be strict on clutter.

If anyone is like me and struggling to picture it, this Persimmon home has just under the 800 ft sq. (I managed to find a listing for a house like my sister's first house that is apparently just under 700 ft sq so used that as a guide in my head)

www.persimmonhomes.com/new-homes/teesside/harebell-meadows/the-haldon/2-bedroom-end-terrace-ifhdanzxgjcq

ozymandiusking · 04/08/2022 20:48

There may not be room for a staircase up to the loft, but you could install a loft ladder. I'm sure you know the kind of thing. Then use for luggage Christmas tree and decorations etc
Can you give us an idea of the individual room size, rather than just the overall square footage.
And please bare in mind the ever increasing cost of heating a house. Small can equal comfort in winter.

GeriatricMillennial · 04/08/2022 20:46

Thank you all so much for your replies so far!

It’s both the number of rooms, and that the rooms are small e.g. no proper hallway. I’m sure some of the feeling was down to the ‘unique’ taste of the current owners so we would try to make it as light as possible, but it is a small footprint. It is a three bed at least.

Those are great points about a shed - I think we will definitely need one but it’s more living space I’m concerned about (and more so the fact I’d have to get DH to go in there each time I needed something to ping off any potential lurking spiders…). There’s no garage and I don’t think any prospect of a porch getting approved due to the lease.

We will definitely try and declutter, but as was said the littles do generate a lot of tut, though good to remind myself it won’t be for too much longer. It’s also more our rather untidy habits that I’m coming to terms with probably won’t change v easily that will be moving in with us…

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dreamersdown · 04/08/2022 20:42

Go for it - there are loads of ways to make it feel bigger. Declutter. Smart storage. Large sheds.

The next few years are going to be brutal with interest rates and energy bills. You’ll be so grateful to be in an affordable, cosy house. And the relief you’ll have to be in the right place for school decisions will be priceless.

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