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To not employ a tradesman who smokes

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Pob13 · 29/07/2022 11:53

We are trying to find a carpenter to do some work. First one came today to have a look, he seemed good but absolutely stank of smoke. He's been gone over an hour and I can still smell it. I just dont think I could have him in our house for several days.
So, would you be honest and give that as the reason or just say you are going with someone else?!

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SleepingAgent · 14/11/2024 18:29

Wondered why this showed up again today, it was from 2022!!

WildGuide · 14/11/2024 07:03

I wouldn’t choose him either but I wouldn’t be honest about the reason because I couldn’t be bothered with any aggro. I’d just say we went with someone else.

PoisedReader · 14/11/2024 07:00

Yes. Tell the tradesperson why they were not given the work. If they cannot respect you or your home then they don't deserve the work.
Had enough of tradespeople who do work then smoke while doing. It's disgusting, and blatant disrespect. They don't care they make you ill.

FergieFergus · 30/07/2022 22:54

I wouldn't care about him smelling of smoke - it's temporary.

However, what is he doing? Building something? Will he be bringing wood with him? If he smells that strongly I'd be concerned that he smokes around the materials - because if he builds wardrobes and the wood has been in a van he smokes in, it's going to absorb it and stink for ages.

Pob13 · 30/07/2022 22:48

@WalkerGirl21 thank you, that is really helpful! It will be in my little boys room so I definitely dont want the smell sticking around.

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WalkerGirl21 · 30/07/2022 18:17

I'm an ex-smoker AND someone who used to work in trades.

Firstly, I do actually sympathise with you - it was only after I stopped smoking I realised how bad it actually smells.

However, as someone who used to work in the trades I'm going to tell you much the same as everyone else has - if you think he's any good, take the quote and get the work done, because he won't be available for long. The construction skills shortage is a very real thing and it's only getting worse.

The best practical advice I can give you is that if you find the smell is lingering (and it does linger - it gets into all your soft furnishings) rent an ozone generator once the work is complete. They're the only things that will completely get rid of the smell of cigarette smoke.

Make sure you read the instructions though - it's potent stuff.

StRaphael · 29/07/2022 21:54

@girlmom21

well it is actually as it’s a thread about ‘smell’. What one person finds offensive someone else doesn’t or else no one would smoke would they.

VladmirsPoutine · 29/07/2022 18:03

I don't think you should tell him that's the reason if you do decide to not go with him because he'll be dining out on your unreasonableness for years to come. Having said that as long as he doesn't smoke in your house all is good. If you've seen he's done great work elsewhere then this would be a loss to you really. But of course it's your money thus your choice.

SleepingAgent · 29/07/2022 17:59

GirlInACountrySong · 29/07/2022 12:04

Well I'd not want someone in my home sawing wood and using power tools off their face in weed or glue

Smokers Are nothing in comparison

Missed the reference then? GrinGrinGrin

Topseyt123 · 29/07/2022 17:37

My only stipulation would be that they do not smoke in my house. Otherwise, just get a good job done.

Pob13 · 29/07/2022 17:31

Some fantastic answers 😂! You are of course right that good tradespeople are hard to find.
And I dont know why I thought telling him might be a good idea. Why on earth would he give a fuck about my opinion 🤦‍♀️

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girlmom21 · 29/07/2022 16:32

StRaphael · 29/07/2022 16:21

Maybe he doesn't like your perfume? Honestly some posters on here are ridiculous. I'm a non-smoker and can smell it on others. There are lots of smells of other people I don't like, such as over bearing perfume, animals, body odour, weird cooking smells etc. Get over it, people are beyond precious.

Nobody's asking her to go into their house smelling of her perfume so that's irrelevant

StRaphael · 29/07/2022 16:21

Maybe he doesn't like your perfume? Honestly some posters on here are ridiculous. I'm a non-smoker and can smell it on others. There are lots of smells of other people I don't like, such as over bearing perfume, animals, body odour, weird cooking smells etc. Get over it, people are beyond precious.

MugginsOverEre · 29/07/2022 16:04

ShandaLear · 29/07/2022 11:56

If I was lucky enough to get a tradesman to actually show up these days I wouldn’t care if he mainlined heroin as long as he did a decent job. Smoking isn’t ideal, but if you lose him you’ll just have to find one somewhere else.

Unfortunately I would have to agree here. It's shit though. We bought a brand new family car last year. Absolutely brand new and is our dream car (still under £20K though so not a Ferrari or anything). I bought it by saving like crazy (going without more often than not) working crazy hours and also using an inheritance from a loved one.

And that lovely, unique new car smell? Fucked. Gone. Ruined because of begrudgingly giving lifts to smokers. Now the car has that yucky stale smoke smell even though no one actually smoked in it. I've since given up the free rides (not like anyone ever offered petrol money anyway) but a tradesman who we actually need? I'd put up with it but I wouldn't like it. Just -very politely-make sure he knows not to smoke outside near open doors or windows so the stink doesn't get in.

SleeplessInEngland · 29/07/2022 15:50

If he seems competent and reliable then yeah, it’s a pretty stupid reason to forgo his services.

balalake · 29/07/2022 15:47

As long as they did not smoke in my house, it would not stop me asking for work from them.

Shouldbeworkingnotreadingtalk · 29/07/2022 14:51

@TwoLeftSocksWithHoles ... now you're making me chuckle with him Grin

theemmadilemma · 29/07/2022 14:48

ShandaLear · 29/07/2022 11:56

If I was lucky enough to get a tradesman to actually show up these days I wouldn’t care if he mainlined heroin as long as he did a decent job. Smoking isn’t ideal, but if you lose him you’ll just have to find one somewhere else.

😂This.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 29/07/2022 14:33

Shouldbeworkingnotreadingtalk · 29/07/2022 14:21

Married to a carpenter. . . Just read him this post... . He is wetting himself laughing .... at all of the replies, not particularly the OP ... he said he only has one cigarette before work, and one after, so if you're anywhere near Lewes, (East Sussex), he's your m

I think i'd prefer a carpenter who smokes rather than one who wets himself when he laughs!

Although he should at least have plenty of sawdust to soak up any spillage.😁

sunsetsandsandybeaches · 29/07/2022 14:29

I mean, it's your choice but I do think it's an utterly daft reason not to have someone come and do the job.

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 29/07/2022 14:27

Totally your choice ro hire him or not but can't really see any benefit in telling him the reason why. It probably has occurred to him at some point that smoking isn't the best habit, doubt this would be a light bulb momemt for him 😉

Shouldbeworkingnotreadingtalk · 29/07/2022 14:21

Married to a carpenter. . . Just read him this post... . He is wetting himself laughing .... at all of the replies, not particularly the OP ... he said he only has one cigarette before work, and one after, so if you're anywhere near Lewes, (East Sussex), he's your m

Boxowine · 29/07/2022 14:15

You're not being unreasonable to go with someone else. It's your home and you have every right to decide who will come into it.

But you are unreasonable to think that you should subject someone to a personal evaluation of their habits or smell.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 29/07/2022 14:04

It is your choice.

He won't change his lifestyle or suddenly recover from his addiction because he has lost some work.

Echoing pp's good available tradesmen for hire are rare.

LadyEloise1 · 29/07/2022 14:01

ShandaLear · 29/07/2022 11:56

If I was lucky enough to get a tradesman to actually show up these days I wouldn’t care if he mainlined heroin as long as he did a decent job. Smoking isn’t ideal, but if you lose him you’ll just have to find one somewhere else.

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